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bobesch

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Change the default media-player within "ClickToPlugin" to "CorePlayer" - is that possible?

First of all: many thanks to inspiration from this forum to find this fine stuff:
- "ClickToPlugin"
from http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/ or via Safari-extensions-download within Safari-settings
- "CorePlayer":
from https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/coreplayer-is-no-more-rip.1397374/page-5#post-22765728

Here's the way I currently manage to watch YouTube-video on my PPC-books (iBookG4-1.2GHz and the PowerBookG4-1.5GHz):
"ClickToPlugin" lets me change YouTube-video resolution to 320p and download the video by right-click onto the video-frame.
"CorePlayer" plays the 320p video seamless after download.

For me that's the best way concerning speed and quality on low-end PPCs (plus: you've stored the video locally in case you'd like to view it again or keep it archived)

Looking into "ClickToPlugin"-preferences, there's an option to select a media-player, but "CorePlayer" isn't even mentioned.
Would be nice to have an option to redirect video-streaming to CorePlayer as an external video-player.
 

bobesch

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Stupid me - I knew there must have been your thread about CorePlayer as an integrated player but my research obviously was a bit lousy...
Better to continue at your thread!
 
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bobesch

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Shame there isn't a "Choose app" option in ClickToPlugin preferences.
Since there's an option to choose the media-player (settings "Media-Player") and the the option to "Open in QuickTime" via right-click (settings "Shortcut-menu") the devoloper (Marc Hoyois) might be able to add same features for "CorePlayer" or any universal media-player too?
Currently looking for his email adress...
 

Dronecatcher

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Since there's an option to choose the media-player (settings "Media-Player") and the the option to "Open in QuickTime" via right-click (settings "Shortcut-menu") the devoloper (Marc Hoyois) might be able to add same features for "CorePlayer" or any universal media-player too?
Currently looking for his email adress...
Great idea! I'd make him aware of the Forum and the active PPC community that use and value his software too :)
Good luck!
 

bobesch

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Great idea! I'd make him aware of the Forum and the active PPC community that use and value his software too :)
Good luck!
This is a small world - everything so fast...
Here's Marc Hoyois respose:
"A Safari extension cannot open system applications. “Open in QuickTime Player” uses a special feature of the QuickTime browser plugin that makes it possible to open the QuickTime Player app directly from HTML. So it’s not possible to substitute QTP with any other app."
So obviously no way to stream directly from webkit.
Never mind. So "ClickToPlugin" and video-download (and maybe archiving) will be my ultimate setup for the PPC-books.
(but I'm gonna give TFF and Greasemonkey a try to very soon... :)
 

Dronecatcher

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That makes sense I guess.
Although, the way it works for TFF with Greasemonkey/Viewtube allows you to select Coreplayer (or any player) for playback - it's just not automatic.
I've just found out how to do similar with Safari/Webkit:

http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/11/14/how-to-run-greasemonkey-scripts-in-safari/
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/2984-viewtube

Unfortunately, this still only offers similar functionality to ClickToPlugin - however, as you can view the Javascript, someone with the knowhow might be able to modify it.
 
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bobesch

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That makes sense I guess.
Although, the way it works for TFF with Greasemonkey/Viewtube allows you to select Coreplayer (or any player) for playback - it's just not automatic.
I've just found out how to do similar with safari/Webkit:

http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/11/14/how-to-run-greasemonkey-scripts-in-safari/
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/2984-viewtube

Unfortunately, this still only offers similar functionality to ClickToPlugin - however, as you can view the Javascript, someone with the knowhow might be able to modify it.

Thanks! I think, I'm gonna check that too...
Today I found out, that I just have to right-click onto the video-frame to start the 320p download (without pre-selecting the frame-rate in the left upper corner).
So this is brilliant. Quick-preview or consuming with the iPhone, download and archiving with my PowerBook. I'm really happy having chosen the 240GB mSATA :)
 

bobesch

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There and back again...
While preparing an iBook for a good old friend I happend to find "YouView" sitting in my PowerBooks application-folder.
I just forgot to delete it after I found out the YouTube connection sucked. But with giving "YouView" another try the prog asked for a recent update and was afterwards back in game again to search for and play YouTube videos.
Best features are Safari/WebKit PlugIn and Extension which allows streaming the YT-video by clicking on the link within Safari.
EUREKA!
That's what I've been looking for!
Clicking the video-link will open a new ViewTube-Window which will ask you for permission to display the video in lower resolution by the help of Perian.
So there are two options now:
1) download the video (320p/720p) with the help of "ClickToPlugin"-extension => view afterwards with CorePlayer
2) stream video with "ViewTube"-extension/plugin
Only drawback: enable/disable either extension depending on the prospected way to view the video.
 

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Lastic

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Same here , this topic made me try out MacTubes ( no longer works ) again and I thought YouView didn't work anymore since MacTubes didn't but hey YouView still works .
 

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If you right click on one of the video links in ClickToPlugin selection menu (the one fading in in the upper left corner of the video frame) you can copy the link to the actual video file and then open it in CorePlayer. I had written a simple Applescript program to do just that, it could be launched with a keyboard shortcut using Spark, so it was very convenient. The problem is that nowadays its usefulness would be extremely limited for Youtube, since Coreplayer can't open https links. Unfortunately both VLC and the different versions of MPlayer i've tried suffer from the same problem (I tried to compile MPlayer with https support but I had no success). This leaves us with Quicktime (support built-in in ClickToPlugin, not very efficient when compared to CorePlayer, but very reliable) and/or an old release of NicePlayer (which is slightly more cpu efficient than QT but still far from Mplayer or CorePlayer).
[doublepost=1465685903][/doublepost]BTW, here is the old thread with my scripts
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/simple-scripts-to-stream-videos-to-vlc-and-coreplayer.1291750/
See first post for CorePlayer, the last for a NicePlayer script.
 
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sawpits

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There is an add-on for Firefox/TFF that lets you download youtube videos as MP4 files.

Called, interestingly: Download YouTube Videos as MP4
 

bobesch

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If you right click on one of the video links in ClickToPlugin selection menu (the one fading in in the upper left corner of the video frame) you can copy the link to the actual video file and then open it in CorePlayer. I had written a simple Applescript program to do just that, it could be launched with a keyboard shortcut using Spark, so it was very convenient. The problem is that nowadays its usefulness would be extremely limited for Youtube, since Coreplayer can't open https links. Unfortunately both VLC and the different versions of MPlayer i've tried suffer from the same problem (I tried to compile MPlayer with https support but I had no success). This leaves us with Quicktime (support built-in in ClickToPlugin, not very efficient when compared to CorePlayer, but very reliable) and/or an old release of NicePlayer (which is slightly more cpu efficient than QT but still far from Mplayer or CorePlayer).
[doublepost=1465685903][/doublepost]BTW, here is the old thread with my scripts
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/simple-scripts-to-stream-videos-to-vlc-and-coreplayer.1291750/
See first post for CorePlayer, the last for a NicePlayer script.
"If you right click on one of the video links in ClickToPlugin selection menu (the one fading in in the upper left corner of the video frame) you can copy the link to the actual video file and then open it in CorePlayer ..."
I've tried this several times but it doesn't work :(
Currently I choose between two options:
1) ClickToPlugin: download 360p video and view with CorePlayer
2) activate YouView-extension to stream the video at 360p in a separate YouView-window.
It would be great to have an option for activate/deactivate the YouView-extension by just one-click, a bookmarklet or an icon. But this is beyond my capabilities...
[doublepost=1466367271][/doublepost]
There is an add-on for Firefox/TFF that lets you download youtube videos as MP4 files.
Called, interestingly: Download YouTube Videos as MP4
I just started to get friend with TFF and discover the power that's behind it.
It'll be a very steep learnining curve - especially to separate wheat from chaff...
 

Lastic

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Does Youview 0.6.1 still work ?

I just tried to use it, it directs me to Perian and then states it cannot find the video ( which I'm sure off it exits - the El Capitan theme how to video ).
 
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Dronecatcher

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Does Youview 0.6.1 still work ?

I just tried to use , it directs me to Perian and then states it cannot find the video ( which I'm sure off it exits - the El Capitan theme how to video ).
Youview only works when it can find a low res .3gp video - having said that it seems to score more misses than hits compared to other solutions that play .3gp
 
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