iPhone SE (2022) Wtf Apple? (Supplied usb-c to lightning cable)

[DaveTheRave]

So just got an iPhone SE 2022 and notice the cable supplied is a USB-C to lightning cable. Now I know Apple have stopped supplying power adapters in the box because "everyone has one" but what everyone actually has is a USB-A power adapter. So why ship a USB-C cable in the box?? The cable is literally useless for me. Not impressed Apple ?

Well the good news is your existing USB-A to Lightning cables will still work, of course. That’s what I’m doing, plus I’ve added some 3rd party USB-C chargers to my Amazon cart. I plan on buying them strategically, when there are sales, etc.

Apple makes amazing iPhones but I refuse to buy accessories from them. I feel like I’ll be rewarding some (in my opinion) anti-consumer business practices. They definitely should have included the USB-C charger for a few more cycles before stopping altogether.

 

[frownface]

Yep, Apple picked the silliest time to do the one-two punch of "remove bricks" and "USB-C cords"

They really should have shipped iPhones with USB-C bricks for a *COUPLE* years before ditching the brick.

But then how could they sell you the new bricks?

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

My cable is still in the box from when I bought my iPhone 12. I have USB-A ports in my home so the USB-C was pointless at this point for me. I’d imagine there’s a lot of people out there that still use older chargers and haven’t bothered with this type of cable. Apple did try and promote using old chargers anyway. Never bothered with MagSafe either.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Most cars come with USB-C now. Maybe use it in the car? Or a rental car when you travel?

Must people aren’t buying 2020 onwards cars though are they? The car industry is on its knees and people are keeping older cars much longer. I have a 2015 car and a 2018, both of which have USB-A ports.

 

[Mark Stone]

My phone is capable of fast charge but I always use my old 5w brick that a previous phone came with.
I plug it in when I go to sleep and don’t care how long it takes to charge as it is always full when I wake.

Me too. I must be special, because my local T-Mobile shop threw in a free USB-C brick, but it’s rarely used; my 13 charges overnight with the same USB-A to Lightening setup that I used on my last Eye Phone, next to my bed. The USB-C brick is used for my iPad.

 

[I7guy]

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To this day they should still have a coupon for a charger if they’re going to be too cheap to include one with every phone. “Going green” is just the excuse to be cheap and save some pennies without turning off most of the customer base. Say that phrase and they could start making the phones of flimsy plastic and charge $200 more and get away with it.

Apple won’t include a coupon. It will create a secondary market with apple footing the bill.

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But what Apple has done here only serves to remind more consumers to buy fast chargers and then add another $19 in profits for every new iPhone sold as Apple for “some odd reason” didn’t lower iPhone prices after removing the chargers.

New tech costs more and apple kept the price of the phone consistent with the last model. They didn’t make $19 more due to the exclusion of the charger.
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I didn’t even realize the AirPods Pro had a usb-c cable until today….and I’ve had them for a few months. We wanted a charger with multiple ports and my wife ordered the wrong one accidentally. What came was a 36 watt two port usb-c Amazon basics charger. So now I’m charging my Xs max using the Amazon basics charger and surprised at how fast it charges.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

New tech costs more and apple kept the price of the phone consistent with the last model. They didn’t make $19 more due to the exclusion of the charger.

The launch price of the iPhone 11 was £729 and the iPhone 12 followed it at £799. I think Apple did hike the price and a £70 increase wasn’t consistent to me. The price increased without that extra cost of a charger for Apple.

 

[aenflex]

Thankfully I went from 11p to 13p. If my husband were to upgrade now from his XR, he would also have to buy a brick. So yeah, I think they could’ve included a brick or sell one for cheap, like $5 on their website.

 

[zorinlynx]

Think of this as an opportunity to buy a third party charger. Third party chargers are nicer than Apple's own, often having higher power output in the same size. Anker has some good ones, particularly this one:

USB C Charger 20W, Anker 511 Charger , PIQ 3.0 Durable Compact Fast Charger, Anker Nano for iPhone 14/14 Plus/14 Pro/14 Pro Max/13, Galaxy, Pixel 4/3, iPad/ iPad mini (Cable Not Included)

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www.amazon.com

20 watts in the same size as the original Apple 5 watt iPhone charger.

 

[jetsam]

Think of this as an opportunity to buy a third party charger. Third party chargers are nicer than Apple's own, often having higher power output in the same size. Anker has some good ones, particularly this one:

USB C Charger 20W, Anker 511 Charger , PIQ 3.0 Durable Compact Fast Charger, Anker Nano for iPhone 14/14 Plus/14 Pro/14 Pro Max/13, Galaxy, Pixel 4/3, iPad/ iPad mini (Cable Not Included)

The World's No. 1 Mobile Charging Brand, In terms of retail sales value in 2020. Data source: Euromonitor International (Shanghai) Co., Ltd., measured in terms of retail sales value in 2020, based on research conducted in 11-2021. Brands are defined as mobile charging brands if more than 75% of t...

www.amazon.com

20 watts in the same size as the original Apple 5 watt iPhone charger.

I have two of these myself. Highly recommended.

Buying hint: If you don't need it right away, it drops to something under $14 on a semi-regular basis. The current $19 price is a historical high.

 

[ericwn]

Always do your research when buying things.

Well put, unfortunately common sense isn’t that common in reality.

 

[haddy]

Well put, unfortunately common sense isn’t that common in reality.

How about this reality:

Europe wants to help clear out your drawer full of chargers. (Published 2022)

A European Union mandate set to begin in 2026 will require all new smartphones, tablets and laptops to use a common charger.

www.nytimes.com

 

[dave420]

I certainly wouldn't want Apple to have to raise the price of every iPhone by $30 by including a wall adapter with each one. They are expensive enough. If you need one you can easily buy one. I'm a big fan of USB C and I am glad they are moving in that direction. I have switched all my cables to have USB C on at least one end.

 

[Ruggy]

I or someone in my household has bought a new phone of every single iPhone generation except the 12. Apple didn't provide a USB-C brick in any generation except the 11 Pro. The base 11 didn't get C, it got USB-A cord plus a USB-A brick.

The 12 and later removed the brick completely, but switched to USB-C cord.

So unless you bought an 11 Pro, you didn't get a USB-C brick in an iPhone. And most people don't upgrade every generation. So fine, people who DID buy an 11 Pro are set. But nobody else. Even pro buyers tend to go two years or more between upgrades. (The average is 2.6 years according to independent studies. So alternating 2 generations then 3 generations.)

It clearly depends where you are.
In most countries of the world they've been continuing to supply chargers and they've been USB-C for several years now. You can also use your Mac charger if you've got one.
(Their chargers adjust automatically to the output requirement. If you use USB-C you can't overcharge your phone and they don't overheat)

 

[jakeenzo]

Well put, unfortunately common sense isn’t that common in reality.

Always do your research when buying things.

Well the device was purchased for me as a work phone. Didn't really have a choice in the matter 🤷‍♂️

 

[ericwn]

Well the device was purchased for me as a work phone. Didn't really have a choice in the matter 🤷‍♂️

Well apart from this being sort of old news, it’s also mentioned in their what’s in the box section. And their computers ship with usb-c ports, as do all their chargers amongst many others.

 

[jav6454]

Well the device was purchased for me as a work phone. Didn't really have a choice in the matter 🤷‍♂️

Then buy the cable and expense the cost to your company or request it thru your company's IT/HR Depts. That's why I would do. If they ask why, just state the charger is not applicable to the supplied accessories of the phone.