Stop using iCloud Keychain for anything you care about.HOW?
I'm considering it. Are you using 1Password or something else?Stop using iCloud Keychain for anything you care about.
I am right now, I'm considering what to do when 1Password 8 drops. I'm all in on 1Password right now, so migrating would be a PITA.I'm considering it. Are you using 1Password or something else?
Yes, but Apple has repeatedly demonstrated incompetence in providing services. I'm not sure why you expect this to be any different.It's alright people saying don't use keychain for anything but in all honesty that's what it's for! It shouldn't be necessary to avoid something designed to do this exact job.
Call me old-fashioned but if something's written to do a job then it should do the job.Yes, but Apple has repeatedly demonstrated incompetence in providing services. I'm not sure why you expect this to be any different.
It obviously doesn't work for you in the way you want it to work, so why use it?
I like things that work. By and large, services provided by Apple don't. So I don't use them for anything I care about, or backstop them with something else for when they inevitably fail. Certainly never let them be authoritative.People like things easy.
Of course it's a Keychain problem. Keychain is syncing data it should not have access to. If you want to play the card that it did have access, and now it doesn't, and the data is now local... well, it's more than a little incompetent that Keychain is not checking whether or not it still has acces to that data according to the controls the user is imposing. Obviously it does still have access to it.You do understand that it's not actually a Keychain problem, as such?
The common denominator in all cases so far is that they've all turned on Family Sharing at some time. The problem lies with that, not Keychain.
And what gave it access? Family Sharing did.Of course it's a Keychain problem. Keychain is syncing data it should not have access to. If you want to play the card that it did have access, and now it doesn't, and the data is now local... well, it's more than a little incompetent that Keychain is not checking whether or not it still has acces to that data according to the controls the user is imposing. Obviously it does still have access to it.
Yes, but Apple has repeatedly demonstrated incompetence in providing services. I'm not sure why you expect this to be any different.
It obviously doesn't work for you in the way you want it to work, so why use it?
Definitely an interesting situation. My family and I (and other families that I know) have been using Apple’s family sharing since it began and I’ve never known anyone to have this problem (we certainly have not). When I have had someone I know have an issue, they had a 3rd party application that synced their data and they shared that application with someone else (like Chrome Password Manager - then gave that device to someone, etc)…
I cannot access my wife’s passwords, my mother in law’s passwords and they cannot access mine no matter what I’ve done.
So, again... don't use iCloud Keychain. It's broken. Why do people have such a problem with the concept?Crappy internet services is one thing. This is something different. Steal someone important kids ipad and enter 1234 as a pin and you have all their passwords.....jesus...
So, again... don't use iCloud Keychain. It's broken. Why do people have such a problem with the concept?
It's a on-line service provided by Apple. The ones you pay for don't work reliably, so I certainly don't expect the free ones to. Historically they do not, so I'm not at all surprised when they don't.You are asking me why people have a problem with a core security feature (akin to certificate stores etc) being broken for potentially billions of users and Apple has not done anything about it for years?
Most people probably expect the sharing.I think more than a few people would complain about this if it was broken for billions of users.
<shrug> People can put their heads in the sand about that all they like, and whine about what Apple (and Google) do or plan to do. I fail to understand why fools continue to expect privacy on systems they do not control.From the same company that will bring us CSAM.