Ah yes, like the FBI, headed by notorious liberal and Trump appointee Christopher Wray.
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Apple Could Soon Face 'Sweeping' U.S. Antitrust Lawsuit
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This would make sense, if the iPhone was the only mobile phone available, and consumers didn’t have a choice as to whether they wanted to enter the “locked in” ecosystem.
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While I mostly agree, on the flip side of this Ford and Chevy don't block third party manufacturers from, say, providing options for installing roof racks or other infotainment systems. Of course, more modern cars these days make it all but impossible to swap out infotainment systems with 3rd party options, because the same screen is now tied to climate control, backup cameras, etc. And don't get me started on having to subscribe to features such as heated seats.
The DOJ is not the vehicle of a liberal or conservative government. They span multiple administrations and are "immune" from the influence of parties. They create multi-generational policies and don't think in terms of one president. Let's step away from the confusing and often misleading nature of contemporary politics.
This being said, if we look at the Standard Oil v. United States case decided by the US Supreme Court, SO was forced to break up because they flagrantly abused their power and wealth to create a monopoly. They did through this multiple, proven illegal actions. We can also look at AT&T whose power was so sweeping that they literally controlled how data was transmitted and this is (simplified) why they were forced to break up. Currently, Google is facing the same challenge as they are synonymous with "searches" and how information is sought after and found. When the DOJ breaks up a large national monopoly, it often really just results in regional monopolies with many of the same actors involved in the new "smaller" companies. To this day, there are still ESSO stations here in Canada.
Has Apple used abuse, violence, coercion, and intimidation? Or did they create an "ecosystem" that became wildly successful because it's better than what is out there? Sounds like the ticks are upset the dog can't be be bitten.
How dare you Apple creating better products than competitors and does not allow them to free ride!
Apple Pay prevents financial providers from getting any information about purchases other than the amount. Apple could in principle take advantage of having access to the additional information (what was purchased where, etc), though alledgedly they don’t.
I hope the lawsuit happens and I hope that Apple fights. This is big enough that it will go to the SCOTUS where it will almost certainly be shot down. This is one of the most competitive arenas in retail right now. Competition doesn’t mean that there has to be uniformity. Many of us choose Apple precisely BECAUSE their ecosphere is locked down and works differently than Samsung/droid/whoeverelseisoutthere…
All these socialists can go pound sand. Heck I hope someone comes along soon who does things better than Apple so that it sends Tim Cook to the curb with his billions of dollars.
All this move by the DOJ does is attempt to force Critical Theory into the retain marketplace.
All these socialists can go pound sand. Heck I hope someone comes along soon who does things better than Apple so that it sends Tim Cook to the curb with his billions of dollars.
All this move by the DOJ does is attempt to force Critical Theory into the retain marketplace.
The argument is fundamentally wrong because neither Ford nor Chevrolet control 60% of the passenger vehicle market share in the U.S.
Many posts in this thread go into the weeds with weak arguments. Given Apple controls 60%, it’s a major concern in terms of restraining competition in obvious ways.
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I can’t wait for Apple to lose
Most people know that the apple ecosystem limits and in some cases prevents use with third party products and services. If people don’t like this, there are other viable options. Nobody is forced to choose the apple ecosystem.
Our government needs to stop encroaching on Apple and other businesses and keep a free market economy. I like being inside an ecosystem that is largely controlled by Apple!
Or, as an adult, you should make more informed buying decisions and not buy Apple products.
For most of us who use the Apple ecosystem, the controls put in place are a feature, not a bug. I am so far to the extreme of this that I thought Apple should never release the "Files" app.
Are there times I am frustrated with my computing devices? Yes, sure, nothing is perfect and progress is always being made. But I can't think of anything that I need to do on a daily basis that I can't (easily) accomplish with my iPhone and Mac. (I only have one family member on Android so my exposure there is low).
Difference is when you block certain products off your market even when you’re willing to pay the fee, then it becomes an issue
Have you ever used a Mac? 100% safe, even when we were absolutely free.
Android isn’t a company though.
You sure missed the point. Of course retailers mark up. The point is Apple makes themselves the ONLY retailer and forces app companies to accept payment from THEIR APP through Apple's Payment system and it'll only cost them 30% to accept the payment! VISA and MC charge 3%. So, focus more on the fact that Apple is a monopoly on payment for in-app purchases (which Apple has nothing to do with nor the App that is running on an iPhone or iPad) than using generalizations because that's not what Apple would be charged in court for.
In other words, Apple shouldn't even be involved with in-app purchases. App developers should be able to use their own gateway and payment systems.
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I'm surprised that Microsoft threw in the towel on their Mobile business. The industry needs a solid third contender. Can Samsung's variation of Android be considered a separate operating system? Even they are focused on building a closed ecosystem.
last time I looked... people have a freedom of choice... if they chose to by a chevy rather than a ford or Toyota they can do so... why would you want the government to tell you to buy a Tesla?
Good. I’m tired of being locked into Apple because of iMessage and FaceTime. I’d rather use an Android phone with iMessage and FaceTime than use an iPhone because Androids can simply do more with their hardware. I hope Apple loses.
They literally have a monopoly in the US because of iMessage and FaceTime.
Love it. Did I miss the comments that Apple should leave the US yet??
Security has been a core aspect of iOS from day one. With all apps passing through Apple's vetting process, consumers can be assured of safety. Once you open that market up to any distributor, you can be certain that many (most?) won't invest the effort to scan and certify apps as "safe" for users. They will only be in it for the money.
How do you see it working? If you could get App "X" (that's ironic now) from 5 different sources, how would you decide which ones can be trusted?