Apple Hired Dozens of AI Experts From Google for a Secretive Zurich Research Lab

[rustygh]

Good move, because whomever was doing Siri needs to be retired.

 

[Delivered]

AI in computational photograpghy and LLM's are not the same. Google has the best computational photography algoritms and they have some of the best AI researchers in the world and even they can barely keep up with OpenAI.

They are each components. We haven’t really seen a full LLM in an apple product but we’ve seen the release research on it and we’ve seen them incorporate Transformer models in auto correct.

 

[Delivered]

Im confused.. so Apple can secretly poach employees from other companies but nobody can do it to them?

Sure they can.

 

[Delivered]

Had high hopes for Siri when Apple poached John Giannandrea from the Big G. Yet nothing really in the last six years. Maybe poaching more Big G. folks will work better this time.

I think like Google these teams amassed an arsenal of AI tech. Apple has been slowly incorporating the tech in limited functional applications. Not just a random chatbot which could embarrass Apple. Apple is a huge company. They can beat most other companies they engage directly. Except Google. Google just beats itself.

 

[falainber]

Im confused.. so Apple can secretly poach employees from other companies but nobody can do it to them?

Sure they can. There probably nobody left in Apple worth poaching. Definitely not in AI domain.

 

[bousozoku]

Why not? Apple got plenty of money. All they need to do is to steal all the big talent and give it time.

Personally, I'm not sure if Google employees are the best as they got beaten by a much smaller company called OpenAI. But that is an other topic.

They should have done better years ago. They bought the company that developed Siri. That should have been a start, not an end. They had many people working on a self-driving vehicle. That would have been quite an accomplishment, but practically any programming student would have experience programming a robot to go right, left, backward, forward.

They have loads of experience but they're still not close. Siri still isn't much better than PlainTalk from the 1990s.

 

[buckwheet]

Why not? Apple got plenty of money. All they need to do is to steal all the big talent and give it time.

Exactly. It's super naive to think that this isn't still a pretty open game to anyone with deep pockets.

Personally, I'm not sure if Google employees are the best as they got beaten by a much smaller company called OpenAI. But that is an other topic.

Hmm... not so sure about that. Google has always been more significant in AI research than OpenAI. OpenAI was just better at product (which Google has always been crap at).

 

[SFjohn]

So Apple believes it can secretly catch up to the competitors.

It usually does… 😉

 

[svish]

Expecting Apple to be very prominent in the AI field in the coming years.

 

[picpicmac]

So Apple believes it can secretly catch up to the competitors.

Chrysler was first with a push-button automatic transmission.

Didn't help them in the long run.

 

[eifelbube]

Totally. And in other news, they were way behind when the Sony Walkman came out. Apples version ended up turning into an iPhone earning almost 1/4 trillion dollars per year. So I doubt they are as worried as some might be.

mmhh … wondering how much Siri, the beta of Apple Intelligence, contributed to the trillion earnings

 

[buckwheet]

Expecting Apple to be very prominent in the AI field in the coming years.

Yeah, I kinda agree, largely because Apple tends to be good at product and functional refinement once a core tech has been established. Case in point; everything with an Apple logo. 😂

(btw, I don't think I'm crapping on Apple in saying that—doing product and refinement well is crucial in the bigger picture of innovation.)

 

[SFjohn]

Chrysler was first with a push-button automatic transmission.

Didn't help them in the long run.

Still selling new cars though… 😉