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GrayFlannel

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It is important to note that I can show them if you ask again from your iPhone.”
😂 The writing style sounds like a MacRumors article. Another clue is when the same word is repeated 8 times in three paragraphs … not to mention all three paragraphs say the same thing but only slightly differently worded.
 
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PsykX

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GPT is overrated. I have found you can get it to give you the answer you want, and also when you just let it give you an answer it can often be wrong.

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Were you using GPT-4 BTW ? I asked the same question and got a completely different answer with LOTS of calculations and programming. Even though I want it to say 1,300 trillion miles, it says :
The distance of 1,300 trillion miles converts to approximately 221 light years. This is within the range of distances to some of the stars in Orion but not an average or typical distance for the constellation as a whole. For instance, Betelgeuse is about 548 light years away and Rigel is about 860 light years away, both significantly further than 221 light years.

As overrated as it might be, it's clearly astounding and light-years ahead of Siri.
I use it quite a lot for various tasks, sometimes it's a hit or miss, but overall it does save me quite a lot of time.
 

d0sed0se

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The more I hear about iOS 18, the less I want to upgrade...

I wonder if anyone else feels the same way?

Sucks that it's turning out like this...
 
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Motorola68000

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Yeah, and those who already pay for ChatGPT Plus will nevertheless have to pay double.
Oh ye of little faith....nothing as ruthless from Apple. It may be you can't use it with the basic RAM, but $200 for another 8GB and you get use of AI that has already been priced in anyway.
 

C-Dub87

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I know it's not the Apple way, but I'd really prefer it if they allowed for users to register an app of their choice as the LLM app.

Would open the door to me using my own privacy respecting solution, rather than feeding data into OpenAI's or Google's model.

Alas, if they did that people would then ask why they aren't doing it for [insert other locked down iOS feature here].
 

Macalway

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So this is wha OAI is going to announce today at 1pm? They said It's not this and that, but 'magic' which sounds like the Apple deal.

We will see how the markets respond, and if that's priced in already. It's pretty unclear these days, but should be interesting.
 

JiveTurkey

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May 2, 2002
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Absolutely terrible news. OpenAI is a profoundly evil company, and ChatGPT has been trained to be evil.

Apple has more cash than almost any other entity on Earth, and they're too lazy to create a better AI.

I hope this deal has an easy escape clause.
 
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sfkeepay

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Apple R&D 2026 Presents: Titanvision ProPt. Your Voice-suggestable Virtual Transportation Device, 11% Thinner!*

*requires active subscription; terms and conditions promise without delivering. see your local retailer for flights of fancy.
 

coolfactor

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I think people are underestimating LLMs at the OS level.

Imagine LLMs being able to control apps for you. You can tell an LLM to automatically setup Shortcuts for you since no one knows how do create them. You can tell an LLM install the best Ad Blocker for Safari for you and configure it to work properly. Even mundane things like asking an LLM to disable notifications for an annoying app should work well too.

Think of it like a highly capable digital assistant on your phone that can control your phone on your behalf. Don't think of it as a chat app.

I think you're using "LLM" incorrectly here. Large Language Models are all about text analysis, tokenization and classification. Understanding language. Yes, they will play a large role in the new Siri (pun intended), but they are not the component responsible for _performing_ an action.

AI does not equal LLM, and vice versa. You can't use these two acronyms interchangeably.
 
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coolfactor

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Absolutely terrible news. OpenAI is a profoundly evil company, and ChatGPT has been trained to be evil.

Apple has more cash than almost any other entity on Earth, and they're too lazy to create a better AI.

I hope this deal has an easy escape clause.

Just wait.

I'm a bit worried about the privacy

Apple could have solved this by waiting longer and coming up with thier own in house AI

Now everything we do with a GPT they have a deal with is going to be a data and privacy siv


Rest assured that this is why Apple has eased into Generative AI. We've all heard about and have been enjoying Apple's strong focus on privacy with all of their machine learning over the past decades, and now that we're entering Generative AI, you can bet that Apple has taken their time to figure how to integrate this technology without violating their prime directive.
 

senttoschool

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I think you're using "LLM" incorrectly here. Large Language Models are all about text analysis, tokenization and classification. Understanding language. Yes, they will play a large role in the new Siri (pun intended), but they are not the component responsible for _performing_ an action.

AI does not equal LLM, and vice versa. You can't use these two acronyms interchangeably.
LLMs are used for function mapping.
 

Mac Fly (film)

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How old is this conversation? This is not even remotely similar to what I just got trying to replicate this, which was far more accurate, and did not get tricked into error:

First turn:

Chat GPT: To give you the distances in trillions of miles, we can use the conversion that 1 light-year is approximately 5.88 trillion miles. Let's calculate the distances for the main stars in Orion:

  1. Betelgeuse: 548 light-years ≈ 548×5.88548×5.88 trillion miles = 3221.84 trillion miles.
  2. Rigel: 860 light-years ≈ 860×5.88860×5.88 trillion miles = 5056.8 trillion miles.
  3. Bellatrix: 250 light-years ≈ 250×5.88250×5.88 trillion miles = 1470 trillion miles.
  4. Mintaka: 1200 light-years ≈ 1200×5.881200×5.88 trillion miles = 7056 trillion miles.
  5. Alnilam: 2000 light-years ≈ 2000×5.882000×5.88 trillion miles = 11760 trillion miles.
  6. Alnitak: 800 light-years ≈ 800×5.88800×5.88 trillion miles = 4704 trillion miles.
These figures represent the approximate distances of the stars from Earth in trillions of miles.

Second Turn:

Me: I thought it was 1300 trillion miles?


ChatGPT: Let's clarify the distance for the entire constellation of Orion in terms of trillions of miles. Orion as a whole doesn't have a single distance because it's composed of many stars, each at varying distances from Earth. However, if we consider a rough average distance to the core of the constellation, we might get a general idea.

The stars of Orion's Belt—Mintaka, Alnilam, and Alnitak—are often used to represent the core of Orion. Alnilam, the middle star of the belt and roughly 2000 light-years away, can serve as a good reference for this central region. Using the conversion that 1 light-year is approximately 5.88 trillion miles, the distance to Alnilam is:
2000 light-years×5.88 trillion miles per light-year=11760 trillion miles

This is the distance to Alnilam, not the entire constellation. If you've heard the figure of around 1300 trillion miles, it might have been referring to a specific star or an average for a particular group of stars within Orion that's closer to us than Alnilam. If you'd like, I can help clarify or calculate the distance to a specific star or part of Orion.
I just asked it right now.
 
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FrozenDarkness

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Knowing how apple handled maps, I'd imagine apple will probably license the technology and the datasets, but NOT actually use chatGPT or its moniker.

Probably an apple featured "powered by chatgpt"
 

maxoakland

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I mean, currently, OpenAI GPT is the best performer out there, Anthropic have also good models but don't know how battle-tested they are. OpenAI had ChatGPT for a long time now
Who cares if it’s the best when it’s still convincing but inaccurate?

That’s like if Google maps confidently gave you directions but it was often to the wrong place

The biggest issue and the reason GPT gets away with it is because people are usually asking questions they don’t know the answer to, so when it lies to them they have no idea
 

Lepton

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Apple has closed in on a deal with OpenAI that should see ChatGPT being used to power new features in its next iPhone operating system,
I believe it will be very deeply integrated into the operating system. Instead of just offering to complete a word how about the whole sentence? How about the rest of the paragraph? How about when you select the paragraph the menu can offer to rewrite it fix the grammar that sort of thing. In Xcode, it could deeply analyze an issue suggesting different ways to approach a problem. Stuff like that all throughout the entire system is what I expect to see.
 
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semka

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Apple has closed in on a deal with OpenAI that should see ChatGPT being used to power new features in its next iPhone operating system, according to Bloomberg.

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In a report over the weekend, Bloomberg claimed that the two companies have been "finalizing terms for a pact to use ChatGPT features in Apple's iOS 18." How the popular chatbot would integrate with Apple's software is not yet known.

The agreement would see ChatGPT become another tool in a range of AI features that Apple is expected to bring to iPhones. Apple is also said to be in ongoing talks with Google to license its Gemini chatbot, but those discussions have not reportedly led to an agreement. Apple is known to have been in talks with OpenAI since February.

Apple at its annual Worldwide Developers Conference next month is expected to announce several AI features coming to iOS 18, which is said to be one of the biggest upgrades to the iPhone operating system in years. According to Haitong analyst Jeff Pu, Apple plans to run some of the features on data servers powered by its own in-house chips.

Apple CEO Tim Cook confirmed in February that Apple plans to "break new ground" in AI. Bloomberg reporter Mark Gurman has previously reported that Apple is also working on its own chatbot tool that some engineers have dubbed "Apple GPT" to rival OpenAI's ChatGPT.

Article Link: Apple Wrapping Up OpenAI Deal to Bring ChatGPT Features to iOS 18
Great, so now I will have to be concerned about my phone watching pornos, when I am not looking...
 
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