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FriendlyMackle

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You are missing the point. Stewart commands a massive salary. Where does his salary come from? Oh right, the big corporations. His greed draws a straight line to their greed. So yes, I understand what you are saying, but he's a massive hypocrite when he works for said corporations that he complains about.
So, what, Stewart should live in a hut on a mountain somewhere, while taking a vow of poverty??? I think many of us in the real world understand that sometimes you have to work for someone odious in order to keep a roof overhead as well as health insurance, food, clothing, medicines, savings, you know, life.

That doesn’t preclude addressing the very real issues which face us as a (failing toward fascism and anti-democratic/republic) society. Yes, the failure has been thoroughly engineered by the ultra-wealthy since at least the 1970s. Bit by bit they have taken away our rights, raised OUR taxes, lowered their own taxes to a miniscule percentage of their incomes, removed every kind of banking and trading legislation passed to prevent financial abuses, and purchased most of the legislators and judiciary in this country.
It wasn’t always this way—not for the entire nation. Most of us know that there was an attempted coup in 1933 to overthrow Pres Franklin D. Roosevelt by a group of wealthy businessmen who wanted a return to people starving in the streets and dying of typhoid due to lack of infrastructure paid for with taxes, among other reasons. Well, pretty much NONE of those plotters were actually jailed, because they were all very wealthy and connected. George Bush’s grandfather, Prescott Bush, was said to have been involved as a liaison. But the oligarchic class did learn their lesson – an outright coup was not the way to gain control of the nation. Better to go slowly behind the scenes, out of the public eye, and (somewhat…sometimes) without violence.

And here we are today, they have mostly succeeded, since most American workers now believe they are better off without labor unions, subsidized health insurance, low-tuition college(!), and a home that would only cost 5 years salary on average. The next steps into outright takeover won’t be too bad for *some* people, at least for the first few years. All bets are off after that.
 

FriendlyMackle

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Apple really shilled out for China with this. Wild
They really cannot afford for China to ban A) their manufacturing, B) sales of Apple products in China. All of US (and other Western nations) companies made a deal with something worse than the devil (to paraphrase a favorite saying) - the Chinese government, the so-called ‘communist‘ party. Mind you, there’s nothing ’communist’ about China, it is entirely a fascist corporate-military state with some socialist features and severe (literally murderous) political and social repression.
 

FriendlyMackle

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Yes, the right would absolutely never care about the politics of an organisation.



I particularly love it when the ’conservi’/Magats burn their purchased products and books! LOL, they’ve paid for them and now are destroying them, costing themselves $$. Excellent, may the self-flagellation continue!
 
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ThunderSkunk

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Well good. I look forward to watching him again. I tried his show on AppleTV when i had it for a couple months, and appreciated that he was trying to keep it on the more serious journalistic side, but found that from the title to the set, the look & feel of it was so dour & gloomy, it felt like it was being dragged down. I hope he can strike that balance between the tragic & the absurd again.
 
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redbeard331

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I guess I don't give him that much credit. I think he did a great job helping 911 first responders get their benefits. But outside of that he's mostly just the first in a long line of bleeding heart white guilt party line trumpets.

Oh and assuming the stuff with Apple and China being the reason he was fired is true, he gets credit for sticking to his scruples there too.

What is this “white guilt” you speak of?
 

allenvanhellen

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His constant discussion on Corporate greed is so hypocritical. He commands a massive salary but talks about how greedy corporations are. He needs to look in the mirror at himself as well as the companies that employ him.
Sorry, but are you joking? Jon Stewart getting well paid to make jokes and political commentary is nothing at all like Wells Fargo signing up and charging people for accounts and services they never agreed to or flat out refused when opening checking accounts.
 

FriendlyMackle

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Sorry, but are you joking? Jon Stewart getting well paid to make jokes and political commentary is nothing at all like Wells Fargo signing up and charging people for accounts and services they never agreed to or flat out refused when opening checking accounts.
AND then ruining those peoples’ credit ratings due to ‘unpaid charges!’
 

m4mario

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Apple should stay away from the "Pick a political side and humiliate the other" comedy genre. Apple is not a TV company and should not risk the frustrations of half the population when their primary goal is to sell $1000 products to the entire spectrum of audience.
 
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tennisproha

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The news comes three months after Apple TV+ series "The Problem With Jon Stewart" was canceled due to alleged creative differences between Stewart and Apple executives.
Apple TV+ will continue to fail until they give show-runners free rein. No nudity, censored content, etc is basic cable and no one is gonna pay for that.
 

votdfak

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fwiw, Jon isn't some leftist, he's common sense.
He's not always common sense, he's protecting USA interests that sometimes or most of the time collide with common sense, but hey he's patriotic.
 
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winstars

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Jon Stewart has done an incredible amount of good for members of FDNY, NYPD and other agencies who have developed "9/11 Cancers" for being or subsequently working in Lower Manhattan post 9/11.
A really good program is working for many many first responders affected and Stewart definitely helped make it happen.

Whatever his politics were/are/or gonna be, he helped his fellow New Yorkers with his juice.



 
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seggy

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Meh, he is tired and will be endlessly partisan.
...to be a halfway decent human being, be very aware of his position in media and use it like a halfway decent human being. Yeah. What a travesty.

It was pretty clear that anything hosted on a platform with the world's most prominent virtue-signalling corporate and voices of real non-photogenic dissent wasn't going to go down well. I'm surprised Stewart stuck it out for this long tbh
 
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DMG35

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So, what, Stewart should live in a hut on a mountain somewhere, while taking a vow of poverty??? I think many of us in the real world understand that sometimes you have to work for someone odious in order to keep a roof overhead as well as health insurance, food, clothing, medicines, savings, you know, life.

That doesn’t preclude addressing the very real issues which face us as a (failing toward fascism and anti-democratic/republic) society. Yes, the failure has been thoroughly engineered by the ultra-wealthy since at least the 1970s. Bit by bit they have taken away our rights, raised OUR taxes, lowered their own taxes to a miniscule percentage of their incomes, removed every kind of banking and trading legislation passed to prevent financial abuses, and purchased most of the legislators and judiciary in this country.
It wasn’t always this way—not for the entire nation. Most of us know that there was an attempted coup in 1933 to overthrow Pres Franklin D. Roosevelt by a group of wealthy businessmen who wanted a return to people starving in the streets and dying of typhoid due to lack of infrastructure paid for with taxes, among other reasons. Well, pretty much NONE of those plotters were actually jailed, because they were all very wealthy and connected. George Bush’s grandfather, Prescott Bush, was said to have been involved as a liaison. But the oligarchic class did learn their lesson – an outright coup was not the way to gain control of the nation. Better to go slowly behind the scenes, out of the public eye, and (somewhat…sometimes) without violence.

And here we are today, they have mostly succeeded, since most American workers now believe they are better off without labor unions, subsidized health insurance, low-tuition college(!), and a home that would only cost 5 years salary on average. The next steps into outright takeover won’t be too bad for *some* people, at least for the first few years. All bets are off after that.
Again, missing the point. I don’t disagree with anything you said. I disagree with a multimillionaire lecturing us about the evils of big corporations when said multimillionaire makes his money off of evil big corporations. I’m not saying he should live in a hut but I also think its slightly hypocritical that he rants about the greed of these corporations making millions of dollars but is ok with them taking some of that money to pay him an exorbitant amount of money.

Let’s be clear here, he’s talking about companies like Apple who he had no problem working for. He’s talking about companies also like Viacom, who he has no problem taking a pay check from. Again, he can do what he wants and say what he wants but that’s my opinion of him and you certainly don’t have to agree with it but you also aren’t changing it.
 
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Smartass

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Trevor Noah as Daily Show host was a war crime. Guy can't make a man, dozed on smiling gas, to smile
 

mazz0

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Meh, he is tired and will be endlessly partisan.
I've no problem with TV presenters having and demonstrating opinions, but they need to be funny. I'm not really interested in just watching somebody rant about things I already know/think*.

You see this a lot - over time presenters who used to be comedians seem to focus less on getting laughs and more on getting applause of agreement.

And I say this as someone who's generally on JS's side, politically.
 

CheffyDude

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Apples John Stewart show was a hot mess. The Daily Show is an even hotter mess. I doubt Stewart can save it.
 

StuBeck

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I can’t believe they'd go so far as to cancel a show over a difference of opinion on these topics. I mean I can see why they’d want not to have a popular show on their platform ironically like/dislike something they have a clearly opposing stance on; it would just look kind of silly… but how can they maintain a catalog if everything in it has to check by their stances on any nuanced subject?
I don't believe they canceled it, I believe Stewart left because he couldn't cover what he wanted to. Maintaining a catalog will be pretty easy if most of your shows have nothing to do with your personal agenda too.

I also don't know how true that is, as everyone is going to say something that makes them look the best. I'm trying a new thing where I don't immediately label someone after a single event, so I'm giving both sides the benefit of the doubt and that there were likely multiple issues, most non nefarious, that caused the show to not have a 3rd season.
 
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