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signsinthedust

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I think you are right. I just google and S9 has a mini-DisplayPort that supports 7680 x 4320 / 60 Hz and 3840 x 2160 / 120 Hz.

The cable I'm using is an Apple Thunderbolt2 to Thunderbolt2 (I can't find mini-DisplayPort to mini-DisplayPort cable)

But like you said, at least it should display 4k or lower res... at least some the image on the screen.. but it doesn't.

Can you confirm this? If the S9 can do 4k/120Hz, and if the response time is not terrible, this is a decent monitor for gaming
 

kvic

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I don't speak Vietnamese but this review just shows up in my YouTube recommendation. I guess I would leave it here for the folks in this thread.


The auto-generated and then auto-translated subtitles work for me. A couple of quick comments: 1) this Youtuber seems learned a trick from Apple marketing, and knows how to sell you a piece of object of desire. 2) the monitor stand in this sample appears to be better built (or better assembled by the Youtuber). I believe it should have alleviated the wobble effect (if you saw and understood where the wobble came from in the first review video in this thread).

Would I want to buy it? Nah. My 4K LG is perfectly fine for me and I'm happy with my decision. Much less desire for 5K, Apple or not :D
 
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mushy peas

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Now listed on the Australian Harvey Norman website as "Coming soon" and "Pre-order now", with a listed price of A$2,299
Good find. So given 30% off shouldn’t be hard to come by, if not more, we’re looking at about $800 less than the ASD, more if you want a height adjustable stand / pay for a VESA arm.
 

mushy peas

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You Americans got screwed with this one.

For once, we Aussies have the better of price, or maybe it’s because the ASD is quite expensive in Australia.
 

i486dx2-66

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You Americans got screwed with this one.
This actually isn't particularly bad news.

At that pricing, the S9 still significantly undercuts the matte Studio Display or the glossy one with an adjustable stand - and offers a host of features/capabilities that no Studio Display version or option offers.

And being a Samsung product and not an Apple product, we know the sales are inevitable. Take for example, the price history of the M8 smart monitor, probably the closest Samsung product conceptually to the S9:

Samsung M8 Price History.png


In just one year, the price went from $729.99 to a low of $299.99. This is how Samsung does pricing. An initial high price is expected, with sales coming soon, and a gradual price drop trend over time. Apple in comparison holds prices firm for long periods - with occasional sales through third party retailers, but no dependable downward slope.

If Samsung missed the mark on pricing, they will find out quickly, and the price adjustments will follow. Hold off for a few months, and then we will find the "real" price. 👍
 

CWallace

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Evidently street price in Asia is equivalent to USD $1000 so we can expect Amazon and such to lower the price a fair bit from list soon enough.

In the end, I decided to go 32" 4K (bought the Samsung S7 with 1152 MiniLED zones as it was almost $400 off during Prime Day) because at the price I expected this monitor to drop at, it was too close to the ASD and I would prefer the ASD (I prefer glossy and I also VESA mount), but that means it would be a pain to connect to swap between my PC and Mac.
 

tmoney468

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I went the other direction and settled on the ASD. Can't really compare the build quality between the Samsung and it, and I don't really have use for the extra features of the Samsung.
 

Works4Me

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For what it's worth, you can always buy the ASD with the VESA mount and either buy a reasonably priced arm, or a VESA stand that works on a desk with both height and tilt adjustment. The ones I've seen aren't as nice looking as the Apple stand, but they aren't 300 bucks either!
 
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kvic

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For what it's worth, you can always buy the ASD with the VESA mount and either buy a reasonably priced arm, or a VESA stand that works on a desk with both height and tilt adjustment. The ones I've seen aren't as nice looking as the Apple stand, but they aren't 300 bucks either!

Gosh. Seems your response is addressing an issue no one asks. But since we're on it...Not that I'm going to buy ASD.

But if Apple comes out with a 2nd gen ASD that I like, I'm sure I'll pick an Apple stand, which should support swivel, height and tilt adjustments, and 90 degree rotation; and it won't flop (video link). That might be worth the $400 asking price.

Third party VESA stands will be such an awkward combination with ASD. Why spent the extra money for ASD to begin with. In rare case, some 3rd party come out with VESA stand that matches nicely with an ASD, I'm sure the asking price will be very close to $400. That's how capitalism or so-called free market works..

BTW:

A fair price comparison between S9 and ASD i.e. Orange to Orange:

S9 = $1599; 3 yrs warranty
ASD = $2498 = $1599 + $400 (adjustable stand) + $300 (matte screen) + $199 (2yrs more warranty)
 
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Analog Kid

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Here is the 2nd Video. Hope you guys like it!


I don't say this often, but thanks for posting those video reviews. It comes across as a dispassionate comparison, which is appreciated.

The light reflectance test did a good job of showing the pros and cons of matte and gloss.

I'd be interested in seeing the text again after the monitor calibration. I find it hard to believe that it's that bad on the Samsung and suspect this is the typical Samsung contrast boost and over saturation at work:
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The biggest takeaway for me, though, is that they actually drink Thai iced tea in Thailand. Good to see that one of my favorites is truly legit.

1689745651126.png
 

kvic

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I'd be interested in seeing the text again after the monitor calibration. I find it hard to believe that it's that bad on the Samsung and suspect this is the typical Samsung contrast boost and over saturation at work:
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You can't let your hung go, eh?
Anyway, welcome to this thread, and say the obvious. I'm little surprised someone else hadn't said earlier. But I think people are giving Samsung the benefit of doubt at the moment.
 

amberjj

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Gosh. Seems your response is addressing an issue no one asks. But since we're on it...Not that I'm going to buy ASD.

But if Apple comes out with a 2nd gen ASD that I like, I'm sure I'll pick an Apple stand, which should support swivel, height and tilt adjustments, and 90 degree rotation; and it won't flop (video link). That might be worth the $400 asking price.

Third party VESA stands will be such an awkward combination with ASD. Why spent the extra money for ASD to begin with. In rare case, some 3rd party come out with VESA stand that matches nicely with an ASD, I'm sure the asking price will be very close to $400. That's how capitalism or so-called free market works..

BTW:

A fair price comparison between S9 and ASD i.e. Orange to Orange:

S9 = $1599; 3 yrs warranty
ASD = $2498 = $1599 + $400 (adjustable stand) + $300 (matte screen) + $199 (2yrs more warranty)

Lol, I don't think I've seen a bigger ASD hater than you. All your posts are about how you can get x number of monitors for the price of ASD.

go watch this video and you'll see why people like and buy the ASD at $1,599.
 
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kvic

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I wish he had focussed on a single new display and dived deeper into it. I got one piece of useful take-away. The reviewer presented a side by side screen of text and icons. Both displays look much closer to my eyes than that by the first reviewer in this thread. This is before sharpness adjustment. This reviewer mentioned after adjusting S9's sharpness knob. Both displays look much more similar (which seemed not shown). So sounds like a good sign of start..

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mushy peas

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Both displays look much closer to my eyes than that by the first reviewer in this thread.

Same here.

To me, it's boiling down to 3 things:
  • Matte v glossy, and what your individual preferences are there
  • Height and rotation adjustable vs not (unless you're prepared to pay for the height adjustable ASD or will VESA mount)
  • Cost: the Samsung here in Australia is already $200 (10%) cheaper and will probably head to 30% cheaper almost immediately once the lower cost retailers get it, and it'll get even cheaper as we get closer to November. I'd expect it to be around 50% cheaper than the height adjustable version eventually.
I guess someone might also prefer the ASDs speakers, but both will be poor compared to any kind of external, so I'm going to say that if you're the sort of person happy with monitor speakers your needs are probably going to be met by either. Might be a factor in a purchasing decision I suppose.

Speaking purely for me, it's glossy, VESA mount (so height adjustability doesn't matter), and I'd prefer not spend money if I don't have to - so it's locked at 1-all. The question is then, is it worth paying an extra 30-50% for a glossy screen, around $800 Australian dollars?
 

kvic

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Matte v glossy, and what your individual preferences are there

Matte coating seems to have improved tremendously in the past 15yrs. Perhaps rewarded by R&D on smartphones. I find today's matte displays appear very fine grained (unlike the older days). Color and clarity both look great. Personally, I find the experience is much better than a glossy screen due to substantially reduced glare. For people not requiring specialised colour grading work, I would think it's suitable for almost all usages.

The question is then, is it worth paying an extra 30-50% for a glossy screen, around $800 Australian dollars?

30%-45% off S9's list price will be a sweetspot. Or you can wait for another year or two when more choices are popping up. You also won't have buyer's remorse from ASD. In case, it's refreshed next year or/and 1st generation ASD pushed down to $999 price point...
 
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Crispe

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Do you think this monitor will be able to display a 4K60 signal from an Xbox/PS5 unlike the ASD? I wish it just had a basic HDMI port instead of Mini Display Port.
 

kvic

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Do you think this monitor will be able to display a 4K60 signal from an Xbox/PS5 unlike the ASD? I wish it just had a basic HDMI port instead of Mini Display Port.

According to Samsung, it does support 4K@60 on both Thunderbolt & Mini DisplayPort. Make sure you get a quality HDMI converter..

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i486dx2-66

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Or you can wait for another year or two when more choices are popping up.
We might be in the sweet spot these next few months, actually.

We're at a point where we have a first-party offering (the Apple Studio Display), as well as the tail end of a major manufacturer (LG UltraFine 5K, a product going back to 2016 with panel production roots in 2014) overlapping with the beginning of another major manufacturer (Samsung ViewFinity S9), and coexisting with budget offerings from overseas (Kuycon G27X @ $699). A price war between Samsung and LG could significantly benefit us consumers....
 
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