indeed! "Well I downloaded it via a Facebook link, that said it came with free ponies!!! Oddly, it is charging me $100/week and I cant seem to find the button/process to ask for a refund, I even asked Apple for help and they were mean and said they could not help."
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Setapp's EU Alternative iPhone App Marketplace Launching on May 14
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MacPaw has never had App Store apps in the first place. Except the Unarchiver that they have purchased some time ago.
They own a lot of quite useless products such as Clean My Mac (which I suspect has always been a spyware) and their own SetApp app store.
Honestly idk what they are trying to sell while having no actual product. Everyone have been placing their apps either outside the Apple App Store on websites (for Macs) or on the App Store
3 months to bring an entire e-store to market. Glad it wasn’t rushed. What could go wrong?
Yes I am.
My clueless family members also have crapware infested windows laptops. There are small gang wars occurring inside them between multiple antivirus products and VPNs that adverts on YouTube told them to buy and the malware they downloaded from promoted links on google. The casualties are the innocent bystanders (their data).
One cries into their bottom end HP eMMC equipped laptop with two broken hinges “why oh why are all my photos gone and who is this guy in russia asking me for €1000 to get them back”.
That’s going to be their iPads too. It’s bad enough trying to get NordVPN off everything.
Epic and Spotify didn't really do anything, their problem was with the payment commission, they didn't advocate for side-loading or 3rd party app stores.
Also Apple is just in the same large bucket Google, Facebook and Microsoft and others are, these measures weren't created with dedication for them.
It's all about competition.
If they won't be successful they will have to reduce the price, or change the model or they will go under. But at least they have the option to try, which is a good thing.
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I am all for alternative app markets and a more open platform. Competition will only make Apple improve thins for everyone. Emulators have been most welcome but you also only need to look at how staid Android and iOS have both become with only each other for company. Its a shame there is no room for extra operating systems to demonstrate new ideas.
But I will still stick with the App Store. Why? Legacy support. Apple don't get enough credit for their continued hosting of old app versions. This means I can go as far back as an iPhone 4 and still redownload old purchases and provided they are local apps they run as well as they ever did. To do this on Android requires sideloading from questionable web sites.
But I will still stick with the App Store. Why? Legacy support. Apple don't get enough credit for their continued hosting of old app versions. This means I can go as far back as an iPhone 4 and still redownload old purchases and provided they are local apps they run as well as they ever did. To do this on Android requires sideloading from questionable web sites.
Yes, and apps brings more customers to buy iPhones.
That's the incentive loop that exists with computers. Anyone can build a Mac app and sell it online without going through App Store, nor pay some fee per install to Apple. If all developers withdrew from Mac, no one would buy them no matter how good the performance is.
Somehow, Apple fooled everyone into thinking that it's now OK to pay a fee per install on mobiles.
Apple IS getting paid by customers choosing to buy iPhones and pay for the online services from Apple like iCloud, etc.
If you prefer to be ruled to ruled by Tim C. Jinping ...
What are you trying to convey? Comparing the CEO to a dictator that aids Russia in their war and that exploits Uyghurs for forced labor? I wish we have higher quality of posts here.
I guess the monthly subscription model makes sense for someone regularly using several of the offered apps there, but for me it is a no go.
Apple should follow this path instead of highway robbery. So instead of collecting bridge tolls, Apple should sell APNS, iCloud storage and InApp Payment service - for a reasonable and competitive price. And there could be so much more services to earn money - database infrastructure with remote and auto sync, MQTT with IoT hub, digital twin service for apps - just to name a few. But Tim is too stubborn and blind to realise that there is money lying on the ground.
This is the way and the only way to go.
People constantly forget that Apple also provides thousands of SDKs and frameworks that make app development so much easier. It ensures device-wide compatibility and higher guaranteed compatibility with future OS and device updates. This is normally priced into the 30 or 15% commission, but is now also why the Core Technology Fee exists.
However, apps that don’t use any Apple SDKs should’nt have to pay anything, in my opinion. But I also believe Apple giving you access to millions of customers does have some value that is worth more than $0.
I doubt this. The Mac App Store turned into a ghost town. You have to download most stuff from third party sites. I always checked the App Store first but developers stopped putting their apps there.
They also have a VPN, photo duplicate remover and CleanMyPhone apps for iOS. They all work fine.
I especially like CleanMyMac. It’s definitely not spyware. Even found a Trojan horse on my Mac. And it’s ideal to completely uninstall apps, update third party apps and remove old junk.
The same commission Epic charges on its own. And why doesn’t Spotify pay their artists while throwing so many hundreds of millions at banner podcasts that cause them to operate at a loss?
Yeah, it's like Apple+, Apple Arcade or Netflix ... but for general purpose apps and some. Does not work for you? It is ok. You now have multiple suppliers. Choose the software supplier delivering you the most value for the money.
Yeah. Apple is the new tech Jesus. It came to save the world from any and all other businesses and some, those entities of darkness.
The bwash is strong on Apple.
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Love how people always want Apple to just copy other companies’ business models and then imply that somehow they would run Apple better than Tim Cook. Why aren’t you CEO then, and what business sense for Apple does it make to go directly against AWS and Azure who have already commoditized that space?
120 dollars a year for these apps.
That’s 1200 a decade.
Over a the long term these cost a lot more than just buying only the software you need.
Subscriptions are going to leave a lot of people very poor and broke when they are very old. Rent seeking software on top of greedy landlords are going to destroy a lot of lives in the long term.
The DMA makes iOS a less closed system, less uniform, more complex and less controlled by Apple. It gives developers more powers.
Since I consider developers to be harmful and horrible people until proven otherwise, it's not something I'm looking forward to.