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TikTok Closer to Potential U.S. Ban as House Passes Bill Requiring Sale
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The conspiracy theory is that Biden with veto the bill and save TikTok to get votes..
Excellent news! Tiktok is nothing more than spyware for Timmy's homies in the CCP. Ban it oughtright!
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So the idea is to force a private company to give up control of it's data out of unverifiable fear and assumption that China will force said company to hand over it's user data to spread communist propaganda.
But by forcing the sale of the app to a US entity, that same data is just changing hands from one country to another but under the guise of "It's safer in America".
Meanwhile, Meta and X basically salivate at the opportunity to spread mis-information about anything because it generates revenue.
And China has said that it will block any attempt to allow the sale to happen.
So the alternative is to deny millions of users in the US their right to free speech.
It essentially comes down to this:
"TikTok should be an AMERICAN company because it's user data is safer with an american entity who will most definitely not, certainly wouldn't dream of using same said user data to spread mis-information and/or AMERICAN propaganda but if this doesn't happen, we'll suspend the 1st amendment for millions of people. We dont have an American entity in mind but we're willingly ignoring the fact that the US has had more data breaches than any other country and we have no laws protecting user data but we certainly WONT use that leaked data to spread mis-information or talk about the American way because communism is bad".
Yeah...this wont be a giant **** show...
So the idea is to force a private company to give up control of it's data out of unverifiable fear and assumption that China will force said company to hand over it's user data to spread communist propaganda.
But by forcing the sale of the app to a US entity, that same data is just changing hands from one country to another but under the guise of "It's safer in America".
Meanwhile, Meta and X basically salivate at the opportunity to spread mis-information about anything because it generates revenue.
And China has said that it will block any attempt to allow the sale to happen.
So the alternative is to deny millions of users in the US their right to free speech.
It essentially comes down to this:
"TikTok should be an AMERICAN company because it's user data is safer with an american entity who will most definitely not, certainly wouldn't dream of using same said user data to spread mis-information and/or AMERICAN propaganda but if this doesn't happen, we'll suspend the 1st amendment for millions of people. We dont have an American entity in mind but we're willingly ignoring the fact that the US has had more data breaches than any other country and we have no laws protecting user data but we certainly WONT use that leaked data to spread mis-information or talk about the American way because communism is bad".
Yeah...this wont be a giant **** show...
Not going to stop with TikTok. TikTok is just a much more popular extension of what Vine was doing. Instagram, Youtube, TikTok...etc all of this stuff is related in ways for celebrity culture.
You can probably say the origins of all of this is the iPhone and related smartphones is you want to start blaming things. That was the initial floodgate because thats the mechanism that allows all of this stuff to happen. You used to have to take some basic steps to do things like record video with a camcorder, hook up the firewire...etc. Now any rube has access to click a button and it's all done for them.
There will be others besides TikTok that pop up in the future. Gen Z is TikTok. Gen Alpha might start adopting something else in 5 years and TikTok starts becoming the uncool app.
Supposedly it's only the American one. In China it actually contains true things, and is educational (again, allegedly. I don't speak Chinese to be able to validate this).
Hmm, if only Meta and X could reach the Chinese population. Wonder why they can’t?
This is a rhetorical question of course, but I think you can catch the overall issue with the Chinese government here, of which ByteDance is required by Chinese law to adhere to.
According to the news he said that he will sign the bill once the senate approves…
That’s correct. Biden is in favor of this bill.
If this becomes the norm look for American tech to lose billions in sales around the world. The more protectionist we become the more everyone else will. We are not far away every country only allowing their tech. I think it's ridiculous that there is fear that the Chinese are somehow going to slip in propaganda as anyone can take 10 minutes and examine Twitter and see how mush far right Russian backed BS there is. Historically China has no interest in that kind of thing. But Putin lives for it. My god, China might know how often we watch a kid skateboarding!
And they need Tik Tok to get it? Your entire statement is ridiculous. Any foreign power can get all the info they want without skateboarding videos.
You think these social media platforms are some sort of cauldron of truth? Like there's never been free exchange of ideas until Twitter showed up? The guys with tinfoil hats were mainstays at newspaper for years (I saw them at the newspaper my dad worked for). Back then people had enough common sense to see them for w
Either way, it's still forcing that user data to change hands from one controlling entity to another. If the fear is that China will spread communist propaganda, who is to say that the US wont do the same thing if they get access to that data? If this goes through, there is nothing in this bill that ensures that the user data is just as protected in the US.
even simpler. The point is - it's not really hard requirement to meet.
TikTok is not going to end in the US because of this, whether we like it or not.
I could make the same argument about any and all of the social media platforms…
There are supposedly 170M+ TikTok users in the US alone, and I’m guessing the majority of that actually uses it… so I think they do find value in it.
I don’t care about social media and have no accounts, all of it could be **** down tomorrow and I wouldn’t care, zero impact to me…
China doesn't allow Google to operate at all in their country. Same for Facebook and a whole slew of American internet companies.
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So conflicted. While this ban would be censorship and an attack on our 1st Amendment rights, now that Trump is against a TikTok ban when he was initially for it, I don't know how to feel about this anymore.
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You can imagine how many times the US Government has forced Microsoft and Oracle to hand over all the info on their software from foreign countries to the US. And Apple... Foreign countries know that the US basically uses iPhone to spy. Not to mention all the routers and hardware designed in the US. I'd guess it's time for foreign countries to stop buying any software from US based companies. Samsung is a company basically run by the Korean Govt. and is loaded with spyware they sell to the highest bidder.