I'm curious as to whether this ruling will in any way affect the outcome of the EU's current dispute with Apple. I doubt it, but at least it does give Apple a bit of respite in the US.
It would be no different then any free app. If you have payment issues, good luck, you have to deal with the developer.So someone answer this question. Does this mean developers can now get to place their product in the App Store without paying Apple anything for operating the App Store? They get to collect 100% of the price off their app and Apple gets $0 for hosting their app? How can this be fair to Apple? We already know that big retailers charge manufacturers for premium shelf space placement.
Here’s another question. I download an app from Apple’s App Store but I pay for it using the developer’s third party payment processor. I decide the app isn't what I want and I want a refund, or I claim it was an unauthorized payment. Who’s on the hook to give me my money back? Who do i blame if I’m turned down. What if my kid ran up a thousand dollar bill on a game I got from the App Store but paid for elsewhere? We all know the answer but I guarantee the average user will expect Apple to make things right since it’s their App Store.
The Macrumors story is difficult to understand, but if I'm reading another article correctly, this means that companies like Netflix or Spotify can state that it's cheaper to subscribe outside of the app store.…you realize this means that Apple gets to continue doing everything they were in the U.S. before Epic began this battle, and Epic/other developers have gained absolutely nothing from this, right?
Apple has had more than a year to prepare for the changes the EU demands.I would not want to be working as a developer at Apple right now. So many things that need to be changed lately and hard deadlines (e. g. the EU stuff by March) and now this
By not ruling, they did settle the matter.I think this was the right decision but I would've liked the SCOTUS to rule on it so the case can be settled.
3rd party app purchase is the main reason why Epic sued Apple. It is the most critical part.This seems like a desperate attempt to make it look bad for Apple.
This was not the most critical part. The App Store remains as the one place to download apps, and most people will continue to do so, regardless of small discounts outside of it (Also, it’s doubtful developers will actually offer discounts, they just want to keep more of the same price, let’s be honest)
No, as of now developers have the right to advertise in-app that there are other, cheaper, payment options available away from Apple's App Store.…you realize this means that Apple gets to continue doing everything they were in the U.S. before Epic began this battle, and Epic/other developers have gained absolutely nothing from this, right?
This was the right decision. Apple is walling off EU to test the waters by opening up things more. If it goes well for their users and user experience isn't harmed they expand.While I feel sad about their decision, I acknowledge that Apple has once again got away with what would be bad for them.
As for epic, at least they tried, really tried, very hard. US is ruled by wealth after all, and Epic does not have that.
and when apple bans apps that put in links to other ways to pay? or say stuff like with apple app store they take 30% of your donation? (facebook) had that issue.Anti-steering rule is not YET concluded which is the most critical part for Apple. Even if Apple wins, Epic still win on the most critical part and therefore, it's not really a good news until it finalize the rule.
Not necessarily. Apple could choose to start charging developers who don't use IAP similar to what they did in the Netherlands dating app situation.So someone answer this question. Does this mean developers can now get to place their product in the App Store without paying Apple anything for operating the App Store? They get to collect 100% of the price off their app and Apple gets $0 for hosting their app?
So someone answer this question. Does this mean developers can now get to place their product in the App Store without paying Apple anything for operating the App Store? They get to collect 100% of the price off their app and Apple gets $0 for hosting their app? How can this be fair to Apple? We already know that big retailers charge manufacturers for premium shelf space placement.
Here’s another question. I download an app from Apple’s App Store but I pay for it using the developer’s third party payment processor. I decide the app isn't what I want and I want a refund, or I claim it was an unauthorized payment. Who’s on the hook to give me my money back? Who do i blame if I’m turned down. What if my kid ran up a thousand dollar bill on a game I got from the App Store but paid for elsewhere? We all know the answer but I guarantee the average user will expect Apple to make things right since it’s their App Store.
I think this was the right decision but I would've liked the SCOTUS to rule on it so the case can be settled.
I'm curious as to whether this ruling will in any way affect the outcome of the EU's current dispute with Apple. I doubt it, but at least it does give Apple a bit of respite in the US.
Right for Apple, and that’s all that matters. As for everyone else, it’s up to their own.This was the right decision. Apple is walling off EU to test the waters by opening up things more. If it goes well for their users and user experience isn't harmed they expand.
It's unlikely that the $100/year per developer covers Apple's hosting costs, let alone the rest of the costs of running the App Store. But feel free to source your claim if you have evidence.Apple collects a $100 a year from devs. That alone is going to cover almost all if not all the hosting fees.
So someone answer this question. Does this mean developers can now get to place their product in the App Store without paying Apple anything for operating the App Store? They get to collect 100% of the price off their app and Apple gets $0 for hosting their app? How can this be fair to Apple? We already know that big retailers charge manufacturers for premium shelf space placement.
and when apple bans apps that put in links to other ways to pay? or say stuff like with apple app store they take 30% of your donation? (facebook) had that issue.
Did you read the case? Epic barely tried— this was a vanity suit that Epic thought they could win as a popularity contest “Your kids love Fortnite and hate Apple, so side with us.”As for epic, at least they tried, really tried, very hard.
they will go back on in the EU with side loadingSo I guess at this point with the law being settled, the pertinent question is will Epic return to the App Store or continue to lose millions?
Cool, so you no doubt just got rid of the perfectly functional Lightning cables?Yes! This along with the EU deadline looming, we are about to break away from Apple's greedy chains. Can't wait to put whatever apps I want on my iPhone. USB-C charging is great, btw... half the cables I used to have.
maybe in EU with side loadingExcept they can't prevent devs from circumventing the app tax by directing users to payment options outside of the app. Seems like a pretty big deal.
that's funny because the EU just gave them what they wanted all along.so this is finally over?
like, finally?
glad to see it. Epic chose a battle stupid enough to live up to the company name, lost, tried every single legal avenue available to reverse that, and still lost. been quite the 4-year trip.