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iPhone 6(S)/Plus 2 factor authentication Apple mess
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What I wonder is if I can still access my account when I lose my phone (not the number) and I only have that phone as a trusted device? Losing a phone has a higher odds than losing icloud password.
You need to have access to (1) a trusted device or (2) a trusted phone number. You only need to be able to receive the verification code to access the account. By default, there's only the phone number set up on the iPhone as a trusted number but you can add more and any device running iOS 9 or later or El Capitan or later and signed into iCloud is automatically a trusted device. If you don't have access to either a trusted number or device, you must use Account Recovery to regain access to your device.
However if you get a new phone number the phone number isn't automatically updated. You have to do that. I just received my notification email and my window to unlock my son's account is Friday the 9th. So a week. Like I said I was able to setup a temporary Apple ID so at least he isn't totally without. Nothing worse than a put out teenager. 
[doublepost=1517794980][/doublepost]I even tried texting his old number and no reply so I guess that number hasn't been reassigned to a new customer yet.
[doublepost=1517794980][/doublepost]I even tried texting his old number and no reply so I guess that number hasn't been reassigned to a new customer yet.
If you change phone numbers, it should prompt you to change the trusted phone number (at least on iOS 11).However if you get a new phone number the phone number isn't automatically updated. You have to do that. I just received my notification email and my window to unlock my son's account is Friday the 9th. So a week. Like I said I was able to setup a temporary Apple ID so at least he isn't totally without. Nothing worse than a put out teenager.
[doublepost=1517794980][/doublepost]I even tried texting his old number and no reply so I guess that number hasn't been reassigned to a new customer yet.
Sure hope you sort this out - my brother still can't access his original Apple ID over a year later, and had to create a new Apple ID to use.
Fortunately he didn't lose many purchases at all, being new to Apple, but he had to reconstruct his contacts and old photos from an old phone because he didn't have a computer that was syncing with the cloud. I gave him an iPhone 5, iPad mini, and old 12" MacBook after he got locked out, so now he'll have various ways to backup his data physically and not just to the cloud, and to have a trusted device to get back into his account the next time.
Fortunately he didn't lose many purchases at all, being new to Apple, but he had to reconstruct his contacts and old photos from an old phone because he didn't have a computer that was syncing with the cloud. I gave him an iPhone 5, iPad mini, and old 12" MacBook after he got locked out, so now he'll have various ways to backup his data physically and not just to the cloud, and to have a trusted device to get back into his account the next time.
Two factor authentication is a no go for me.
1. Work place blocks emails. So I can’t even verify as part of 2 step if I used my email as one of the backup mechanisms.
2. If I don’t have a second device (iPad/Mac). I’m really screwed when doing 2 step.
Sucks. I want to have Apple Pay cash. But will not have it.
I will continue using Venmo
1. Work place blocks emails. So I can’t even verify as part of 2 step if I used my email as one of the backup mechanisms.
2. If I don’t have a second device (iPad/Mac). I’m really screwed when doing 2 step.
Sucks. I want to have Apple Pay cash. But will not have it.
I will continue using Venmo
Email is not a "backup mechanism" for either Two-Factor Authentication or Two-Step Verification. Email is an alternative to security questions with the default level of account security.
In that case you would be able to use one of the secondary, trusted numbers. But yeah.... if you only have the one number in there as trusted you are going to be in a bad way.
I’m talking if I lose my iPhone.
I can’t logon to iCloud (work blocks emails)
I can’t login to someone else find my iPhone cause it has to be a “trusted” device
So how am I suppose to ping my iPhone if it gets lost at work if I don’t have access to a trusted device.
That’s the issue with two step anything process.
You can access the Find My iPhone interface without needing the verification code on iCloud.com.
And that’s what I am afraid of. Also, the inability to roll back sucks even more if I choose to opt in.
Work blocks iCloud.com and all other email accounts.
That’s the issue.
This is why two step is a failed method
Unless I physically carry another one of my “trusted devices” to work which is a pain.
So the work place blocks the access of https://www.icloud.com completely you mean? That sucks.
Another reason I do not want to hop on any two something. Not critical though.
Yes. Work blocks iCloud.com
Blocks yahoo
Blocks gmail. Hotmail
Blocks gdrive. One drive etc
Blocks any google ad redirects.
Filters any inappropriate ads
Blocks eBay (yet allows Craigslist and amazon)
You didn't specify they block the website. And I don't see why Apple should need to anticipate your workplace's censorship, but it's an optional feature regardless. Use it or don't.
This is a pretty targeted block list. I don't see youtube facebook twitter though.
Best advice for old school system is to set security question in such a fashion that answer is completely unrelated to question yet simple enough to remember (such as F8YJH). Also, have a strong password.
This is expected behaviour. The browser isn’t trusted but the computer is.
That doesn’t help you sign in to an Apple ID.
So if someone stole my MacBook, they would be able to authenticate with the stolen MacBook as the code shows up there?
If someone stole your MacBook and knew your login password, they would be able to generate verification codes (with or without internet access) and change the Apple ID password from System Preferences > iCloud. The same is true on the iPhone in Settings > iCloud. If someone can access your trusted device(s) with the password/passcode, they have complete access to your Apple ID anyway since the device is "trusted."
This is why keeping your passwords secret is important.
My brother that I mentioned above did this (took receipt and phone to Apple store), and while they did remove the lock on his iPhone 5, his Apple ID was still locked. So it's not a full solution, and my brother still had to create an new Apple ID and lost all of his previous purchases.
He made the mistake of using an "Obama Phone" flip phone for his other device, but instead of getting a text Apple tried to treat it as a trusted phone and push the auth to it, and it couldn't display the map and the approval button. With 2 step his old phone worked by getting a text with a code, but when he went to 2 factor his old phone could no longer be used to get him into his account.
(Before all this he qualified for a govt subsidized phone but had no internet, so I sent him my old 5 so he could surf the web on it on my AT&T family plan - he didn't have any other Apple devices to use 2FA and blindly turned it on when Apple suggested it. So I sent him the old iPad mini and MacBook from 2012).
He made the mistake of using an "Obama Phone" flip phone for his other device, but instead of getting a text Apple tried to treat it as a trusted phone and push the auth to it, and it couldn't display the map and the approval button. With 2 step his old phone worked by getting a text with a code, but when he went to 2 factor his old phone could no longer be used to get him into his account.
(Before all this he qualified for a govt subsidized phone but had no internet, so I sent him my old 5 so he could surf the web on it on my AT&T family plan - he didn't have any other Apple devices to use 2FA and blindly turned it on when Apple suggested it. So I sent him the old iPad mini and MacBook from 2012).
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Ha. You are right. YouTube Facebook isn’t blocked. Twitter isn’t blocked either.