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itsmeaustend

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We get that in America too, when you set up a new iPhone they give you a list of apps if your new to the App Store: Facebook, Messenger, Instagram, Twitter, TickTok, YouTube, Microsoft, Tinder, etc. all those are safe non-spying apps and companies right? :rolleyes:
This isn’t even true. It’s a blatant lie actually…

You have to open the App Store and look for a list. It’s not just offered in a prompt during setup.
 

makr

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Only in the US. Disaster upon disaster. Covid. Fanny Mae. WTC. America just can't handle crises.

In other parts of the world, it gets brighter and brighter.
Yes China getting brighter every day?
 

Steve121178

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This just shows how greedy Apple is, they walk over dead bodies for money.
They'll do anything China demands just to remain in that market. With all the posturing Apple does about human/equal rights and so on, they soon forget their principles where money is involved.

Just goes to show that it's all about presenting an image.

And we know the non-Rainbow wrist band image they present in Russia.
 

msp3

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Why is the whole world becoming complicit with blatant tyranny?
Because its been demonstrated all over the world you can easily sell oppression under the guise of a "health emergency", so the next step is press the jackboot on the face even harder (on top of the placebo masks the gullible are forced to wear under threat of arrest and persecution otherwise).

Are we allowed to uninstall the COVID-spying framework? Same answer goes for every state-enforced spying app coming soon to all your devices.
 

SWAON

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Another example, how long protected Apple privacy mumble can be sell easily for more $$$. That's exactly who Apple is nowadays. You're welcome, dear end-users.
 

neuropsychguy

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Really no different than how some Android phones have apps installed you don't want, won't use and can't uninstall. I have run across that in the past few years when I still used Android phones and it is very annoying.

I am not talking about apps needed for the OS / phone functionality - those are fine.

Also, I am not defending what Russia is trying to do. Just pointing out that similar situations occur outside of Russia and the iPhone.
I was mainly alluding to a problem could be the Russian government including a government-backed spyware app on the list of recommended apps that then gets installed. If that can't be removed, it would be a major issue. Given the state of the Russian government, this is a real concern.
 
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lkrupp

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Cue every other Government jumping on this 'opportunity' now Apple has set a precedent.
Yes, and in the U.S. they will call it ‘fariness’. When you turn on your new iPhone or iPad for the first time you will be presented with a screen where you must choose your browser, your email client, your music app, your message app, etc. Apple’s apps will be forced to the bottom of the list so they won’t be prominent and anti-competitive.
 
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mi7chy

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Citizens of North Korea do not have internet access or smartphones so your question is moot?

Not yet but if they can control and snoop on their citizens with iPhones then they could roll it out.
 

centauratlas

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One hopes that eventually Apple has the guts to stand up for what they claim are their principles worldwide, but so far they are failing. For now though, they fall all over themselves to support the totalitarians in Russia, China, and around the world, plus the want-to-be totalitarians in DC (FBI/NSA/CIA) by not enabling iCloud encryption using secure keys.
 
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