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Bearxor

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The tweet and report also mentioned the new iPhone 6... not the existing 5C... thus the report is almost undeniably stating that the iPhone 6 will come in 2 variants- that could be screen size or power, it's unknown, but it's certainly not storage capacity.

My guess was network compatibility. I'm unsure what the networks look like in Thailand though.

If there's only one network they sell on, two model numbers don't make a lot of sense so it would probably be two separate devices. If there's more than one network, then different model numbers for different network compatibility makes the most sense.
 

Mago

macrumors 68030
Aug 16, 2011
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Interesting argument, but you must remember that the iPhone 5C didn't live up to the standard expected of it- by that, I mean the sales weren't that great. Tim Cook even admitted it.

I think Apple will either:
1: Discontinue the 'C' variants with the release of the 6S in 2015. Whilst reducing the price of the 'C' variants after the iPhone 6 launches.
2: Release a cheaper variant of the iPhone 6 in 2015, along side the iPhone 6S and market it differently to prevent the same from happening. (I couldn't see Apple releasing a iPhone 6C this year.
3: Replace the 5C with the 4.7" iPhone 6. I'll explain:

Past rumors have also speculated that the 4.7" iPhone 6 will have less powerful specifications than the larger 5.5" model. In which case, the 4.7" iPhone 6 will prove more affordable. This is a completely new marketing plan as Apple would be selling what seems to be premium phone that, in terms of design, is identical to the larger version. The difference is the specifications- which the public aren't as concerned by. This could prove vastly more successful then the marketing campaign lead by the iPhone 5C.

// Option 3 over

I have also noticed a lot of people claiming that the 5.5" iPhone doesn't exist as they have not seen any solid evidence. Whilst this idea is supported, I very much doubt it. Firstly, reports have suggested that the iPhone 6 may be delayed by a few months- which means part leaks will not be synced with those of the 4.7" iPhone.

Reports have stated that the larger iPhone 6 may ship in early 2015.
- Let's assume that means January.
- January is 4 months after September (the 4.7" iPhone 6's release date)
- In April, which was 4 months ago, we didn't see any solid proof of the 4.7" iPhone 6- much like we see little proof of the larger iPhone right now.
- In the coming months, like 4.7" and the months after April, more leaks will arrive.


I think the 5.5"iPhone 6 was a rumour build just to move web traffic, and that actually apple is reading are a Cheaper iPhone 5s with plasctic rear shell sure to be sold as the iPhone 5cs, and of course the only new flagship iPhone is the 4.7" model backed by enough leaks to actually build a complete one.

I dont give credibility to those 5.5"iPhone *leaks* as the supossed delays, Apple will never launch a phone at january, neither launch a 2nd phone at november, its agains its very succeful marketing model, and when a marketing model its succeful means little change on the model across the seasons.

So:
  1. no solid evidence backs the existence of a 5.5"iphone or at last support that a 5.5 iDevice its actually an iPhone or just a test prototype.
  2. Appel Markting model has been to sell past year model as the cheaper entry level iPhone with minimal updates or modifications, along the all new flagship new iPhone, no weaken sales may indicate a need to review this model as to introdouce a 2nd iPhone line,
  3. not was the case of the iPad which sales weaken fast as the smaller tablet gain niche and forced Apple to tune the ipad design to market demand for an smaller iPad, ther is no actually such big demand on Phablets to fear another market switch.
 

pgiguere1

macrumors 68020
May 28, 2009
2,169
1,232
Montreal, Canada
You guys are reading too much in model numbers. A higher number does not necessarily indicate a higher-end phone.

See this page. Depending on the version (GSM/CDMA/China), a model number might be lower for a newer, higher-end device than for an older one. For all we know the two model numbers mentioned in the article could be GSM/CDMA/China variants of the same model. The iPhone 5s for instance has a total of 8 different variants worldwide, and its model numbers vary a lot.
 
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stulowe2009

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Sep 14, 2009
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4
Hope it is an iPhone 6c. That would be quite funny here in Hong Kong where it would sound exceptionally like 'iPhone eat *******' in Cantonese Chinese.
 

DakotaGuy

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Jan 14, 2002
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South Dakota, USA
Please Steve come back with an better iphone 4", Tim understands nothing.

About the only place around the Internet that I see some people that don't want any larger screen then 4" is on here. If an all new 4" iPhone 6 were released alongside a new 4.7" or 5.5" model would it even be worth all the engineering resources? Except for a value driven model (less profit margin) a 4" would be a poor seller if released alongside a 4.7" or 5.5" model. I think the only people who are outright rejecting a larger screen on an iPhone are people who have never used a larger screen. After owning a 5.5" G3 there is no way I'd go back to a tiny screen again. You just don't realize how much more enjoyable content is on a larger screen until you own one.

I think you will still see a 4" model, but it is going to be like the current 5c and be a value driven model with older internals. Now I might be wrong and they might give it a try, but a flagship 4" would move in tiny numbers next to a 4.7" and I think many on here wanting a 4" so bad would quickly move up to a 4.7" if the price were the same and they saw them side by side. As for me, I love my 5.5" but I understand that size isn't for everyone and a 4.7" really is the meat of the market right now.

Ever wonder why the 17" iMac doesn't exist anymore?

With that said, I do think those of you who really want a 4" screen will still be able to get one, but I don't see it being the flagship phone going forward. Apple is following this time, but they to understand where the market is headed. Personally I think only a new 4.7" is coming and the following year the 5.5" will appear. Apple is smart when it comes to selling people a new phone every year.
 

charlituna

macrumors G3
Jun 11, 2008
9,636
816
Los Angeles, CA
As expected, 5.5" doesn't exist because there is just no leaked parts for 5.5" so far.

I would say that the truth is one of the following:
  • the 5.5" iphone exists and Tim had finally fulfilled his double down comments
  • a 5.5" device exists but it's not a phone. Rather a revamp of the iPod touch or a kids sized smaller ipad
  • a 5.5" device prototype was made, which device unknown, and someone is rolling with it as a legit item even though it has been rejected at least for now
  • it never existed, was perhaps not even an idea. Whole thing came out of some blogger or analysts bum and now the talk of issues and delays is a covering trick to avoid exposing that it was all made up
 

Agent OrangeZ

macrumors 68040
Mar 17, 2010
3,016
3,015
Planet Earth
I would say that the truth is one of the following:
  • the 5.5" iphone exists and Tim had finally fulfilled his double down comments
  • a 5.5" device exists but it's not a phone. Rather a revamp of the iPod touch or a kids sized smaller ipad
  • a 5.5" device prototype was made, which device unknown, and someone is rolling with it as a legit item even though it has been rejected at least for now
  • it never existed, was perhaps not even an idea. Whole thing came out of some blogger or analysts bum and now the talk of issues and delays is a covering trick to avoid exposing that it was all made up

#3 is most likely.
 

cmChimera

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Feb 12, 2010
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No. It could be anything from a larger iPhone to the iPhone 6C. Personally, I think it's the larger iPhone. This is because we have seen an array of rumors surrounding it- we haven't seen many rumors supporting an iPhone 6C.

We've seen rumors of NFC in the iPhone for multiple years now. Still not there. What I mean is that there is no actual evidence to support a 5.5" iPhone, nor is there any evidence to support a 6c for that matter.
 

Milese3

macrumors 6502
Aug 11, 2014
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I think the 5.5"iPhone 6 was a rumour build just to move web traffic, and that actually apple is reading are a Cheaper iPhone 5s with plasctic rear shell sure to be sold as the iPhone 5cs, and of course the only new flagship iPhone is the 4.7" model backed by enough leaks to actually build a complete one.

I dont give credibility to those 5.5"iPhone *leaks* as the supossed delays, Apple will never launch a phone at january, neither launch a 2nd phone at november, its agains its very succeful marketing model, and when a marketing model its succeful means little change on the model across the seasons.

So:
  1. no solid evidence backs the existence of a 5.5"iphone or at last support that a 5.5 iDevice its actually an iPhone or just a test prototype.
  2. Appel Markting model has been to sell past year model as the cheaper entry level iPhone with minimal updates or modifications, along the all new flagship new iPhone, no weaken sales may indicate a need to review this model as to introdouce a 2nd iPhone line,
  3. not was the case of the iPad which sales weaken fast as the smaller tablet gain niche and forced Apple to tune the ipad design to market demand for an smaller iPad, ther is no actually such big demand on Phablets to fear another market switch.

Interesting argument. I can somewhat agree, but to an extent. Tim Cook has changed Apple a lot, and I wouldn't be amazed if they did release a larger iPhone in January. However, I mentioned January as the latest bound for it's release. I think it's more likely to ship October(ish). I recon it will be in small quantities and Apple has kept it a tight secret, much like the rumored, but rarely questioned iWatch.

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We've seen rumors of NFC in the iPhone for multiple years now. Still not there. What I mean is that there is no actual evidence to support a 5.5" iPhone, nor is there any evidence to support a 6c for that matter.

Exactly my point, however, since there is rumors surrounding the device, the likelihood of the devices release it higher than say: a 6" iPhone. The "iWatch" follows a similar trend. We have seen no leaked schematics or parts, but it is deemed to be released soon. I understand the "iWatch" has had more consolidation as Apple has filed patents and hired specialists- but the solid evidence still isn't there.

I say we wait until September 9th arrives. There's definitely some secrets to be revealed.

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#3 is most likely.

Why are you so against the idea of a larger phone that would undoubtably increase Apple's marketshare and profits. If you don't like larger phones, don't buy it- but don't create a conspiracy.
 

Casiotone

macrumors 6502a
Oct 12, 2008
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Wasn't there a rumor that the 5.5" model would be manufactured by another company than Foxconn? Maybe that could explain the lack of leaks?
 

ColdShadow

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Sep 25, 2013
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A better combination would be 4.7 and a normal 4, wouldn't it? I mean, that keeps both the people who want the same size and the group that wants something bigger.

It's 2014..4 inches display is obsolete.
The 4.7 is the standard.and the 5.5 is for the more geeky folks (or those who don't want to own both phone and a tablet).
 

sdugoten

macrumors regular
Jul 23, 2010
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72
The model numbers don't necessarily strictly increase from one generation to the next. Some iPhone 5s's have A14xx model numbers and there are quite a few more overlaps elsewhere.

The model numbers always stay within a short range for the same model. A1586 is no doubt a new series because it is not within the same range as before. However, A1524 is within the range of Iphone 5S and 5C only. New phone series like 5S -> 5 > 4S -> 4 , ALWAYS have a model number jump which the gap is large enough to see it is a new version. (with the only exception for China only model , which none of us really concern about because they are China only)

Lets look at this:

Iphone 5S
A1533 or A1457 or A1530: iPhone 5s (GSM model)
A1533 or A1453: iPhone 5s (CDMA model)
A1518 or A1528 or A1530: iPhone 5s (GSM model China)

Iphone 5C
A1532 or A1507 or A1529: iPhone 5c (GSM model)
A1532 or A1456: iPhone 5c (CDMA model)
A1516 or A1526 or A1529: iPhone 5c (GSM model China)


Iphone 5
A1428: iPhone 5 (GSM model)
A1429: iPhone 5 (GSM and CDMA model)
A1442: iPhone 5 (CDMA model, China)


Iphone 4S
A1387: iPhone 4s (CDMA model)
A1387: iPhone 4s (GSM model)
A1431: iPhone 4s (GSM model China)

Iphone 4
A1349: iPhone 4 (CDMA model)
A1332: iPhone 4 (GSM model)
 
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