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Apple Releases macOS Catalina With Find My, Screen Time, and No More iTunes
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I usually install fresh once a beta gets into mainstream.
However, I had installed Catalina beta afresh about 4-5 betas ago for some reason. Now feeling a little lazy to install fresh since Catalina is released with just one build ahead of the last beta (11).
Any opinions on this front? The only reason I usually install afresh when a mainstream release occurs is to weed out logs, diagnostics, additional code base that might hamper with everyday functioning and strain the resources.
However, I had installed Catalina beta afresh about 4-5 betas ago for some reason. Now feeling a little lazy to install fresh since Catalina is released with just one build ahead of the last beta (11).
Any opinions on this front? The only reason I usually install afresh when a mainstream release occurs is to weed out logs, diagnostics, additional code base that might hamper with everyday functioning and strain the resources.
As a workaround until Apple updated the Remote App, it should be OK to just use the Music App, and then AirPlay to other devices - I know it is not the same, but still a durable option.
Rule of thumb is to wait a couple days for the servers to free up to download and install any new Mac OS system software if you're eager to do so. My suggestion is to wait a week or two for Apple to work out the bugs before moving over into Catalina. The ones rushing to install it will help diagnose initial problems.
I'm sticking with Mojave as long as the newest Xcode works.
However, there weren't this much complaints with Mojave, therefore, I think this release is maybe a little bit problematic for many.
I only had 1 downloaded movie in Mojave, but it is still there in, in the new TV app, after the Catalina upgrade.
You will probably find Image Capture works.
I had exactly this problem in a previous OS upgrade and my-almost brand new-scanner had no drivers available, but image Capture found it and gave me pretty much the same controls.
Image Capture is a native program in Applications if you've never used it.
I experienced multiple tortures and 'resets' during the Catalina Beta releases, but all has been pretty good for the last few. Signed out of Beta program yesterday and took the plunge with the new public release through the App Store. All appears to be working fine for me right now. Fingers crossed!
Maybe yes, this is a message from Apple: Please note: while the released version (19A583) is later than the last seeded build (19A582a), the changes are minor, The next seed build will install on both 19A582a and 19A583.
For the first time since 10.4 on my G4, I will not be day 1 installing this on any of my systems. I will not be updating anytime soon as probably 50% of my used apps are 32 bit. My audio interface, capture device, printer, and scanner would also stop working.
That little red "1" on the System Preferences icon is really going to annoy me though.
That little red "1" on the System Preferences icon is really going to annoy me though.
The Affinity apps have replaced Adobe on my Mac as well.
Goodbye Adobe. Stuck with you through decades, good times and bad… time to say, goodbye.
Yes! thanks for this information! Mac Rumours guys to the rescue!
I was willing to upgrade my Scansnap devices, but they are so good, I'd very happy to just keep them.
I have 2 Macs configured with Evernote and the ix500, and both machines are running a little bit older MacOS versions.
I'll now try updating to Catalina on the most recent Mac, and try "ScanSnap Home". You know, since I use Evernote, I barely ever notice the "Scansnap" software - I hardly know if I even need the Scansnap software - all scans always seem to go to Evernote and and OCR'd, and every stack of paper I feed turns into one PDF, and it just works exactly how I want it to. Can't think about living without this setup. That's why I have 2 of them - one for office and one for home.
The ix500 is very good at scanning 2 sides and it handles some pretty wrecked papers with very few jams, and even if you get a jam, you can fix it in 5 seconds and continue.
No option to view artwork in song view (like, who thought of that?) and the horrid search function for starters.
If you search for something like "Pink Floyd", you can't select the results like you did before cause if you click on them you enter the album.
You also can't resize the album art in album view apparently.
Music really is just "dump iTunes".
I found a bug in the GM which was not present in the previous betas.
It hasn't affected many people. But I am certainly not the only one it affected.
My dock disappeared when updating from beta 10 to the GM. Hovering near the bottom of the screen didn't bring it back either.
For me there was a simple fix. Restart computer.
If restarting doesn't fix it, you can hold option key whilst selecting go from menu bar. Click Library (which only appears when you hold down the Option key whilst accessing that menu). Then open Preferences and delete the file com.apple.dock.plist. Then restart computer. The dock will rebuild itself.
I have now updated to the public version - and the bug did not recur.
I made a bug report to apple in the hope that they would fix it before public release.
Unfortunately however I have since learned that the bug is ocurring in the public release.
This is disappointing since I made the bug report to apple and clearly they didn't fix it.
Although beta testers are brave enough to take on (potentially catastrophic) bugs, this particular bug (although not catastrophic), is something I would expect from an early beta, not a GM, and certainly not a public release after apple was warned about it being in the GM.
Although the fix is simple, I think many in the public won't know how to fix it.
It's kind of OK for apple to unleash a whole heap of nasty bugs onto beta testers and developers. They kind of expect that from betas. But to unleash them onto the pubic (most of whom are NOT willing beta testers) after being told the bug is in the GM means apple either:
1. Chose to ignore the bug report.
or
2. Rushed out the public release fully aware of the bug still not being fixed.
It hasn't affected many people. But I am certainly not the only one it affected.
My dock disappeared when updating from beta 10 to the GM. Hovering near the bottom of the screen didn't bring it back either.
For me there was a simple fix. Restart computer.
If restarting doesn't fix it, you can hold option key whilst selecting go from menu bar. Click Library (which only appears when you hold down the Option key whilst accessing that menu). Then open Preferences and delete the file com.apple.dock.plist. Then restart computer. The dock will rebuild itself.
I have now updated to the public version - and the bug did not recur.
I made a bug report to apple in the hope that they would fix it before public release.
Unfortunately however I have since learned that the bug is ocurring in the public release.
This is disappointing since I made the bug report to apple and clearly they didn't fix it.
Although beta testers are brave enough to take on (potentially catastrophic) bugs, this particular bug (although not catastrophic), is something I would expect from an early beta, not a GM, and certainly not a public release after apple was warned about it being in the GM.
Although the fix is simple, I think many in the public won't know how to fix it.
It's kind of OK for apple to unleash a whole heap of nasty bugs onto beta testers and developers. They kind of expect that from betas. But to unleash them onto the pubic (most of whom are NOT willing beta testers) after being told the bug is in the GM means apple either:
1. Chose to ignore the bug report.
or
2. Rushed out the public release fully aware of the bug still not being fixed.
I logged this with Apple when the first beta came out. I pointed out that it's a stupid place to put user data. Plus the Books app is awful: no proper organisation and no metadata editing options. They just ignored the Feedback.
Luckily I hadn't actually paid/downloaded any books from Apple; I'd just classed as "Audiobooks" a bunch of mp3s that I get on a CD/download from language books I have. So I imported them back into Music and made sure not to change the type from Music to Audiobooks. To keep them separate I used the Grouping tag, deleted everything from the Library directory and deleted the Books app from my dock. Won't be using it again.
Yeah - was glad to catch that in time - not sure at what point (security-wise) I will have to upgrade to Catalina, but in terms of features, as an engineering professional that also uses Lightroom 6, I see no reason to go to Catalina ever...
Temporary Solution:
sudo softwareupdate --ignore "macOS Catalina"
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I'm curious, how did you guys get Catalina? Did you download the update through system settings or did you get it from the App Store?
Notice any difference?
Notice any difference?
Man, this gets annoying ? Took the time to rearrange everything and now I just saw (don't know what caused this) that some Apps have been removed from the "Other" folder and put at the end of the Launchpad apps and on top of that the "Other" folder is completely scrambled again.
My System Information lists nearly many Adobe apps which are 32-bit, mostly AAM stuff, setup apps and uninstallers. The apps themselves all seem to be 64-bit but there's no way to be sure about dependencies. Good job, Adobe!
