Your bitch that the base is $3k overpriced means you’re bitching about a $50/month perceived overcharge. So you’re saying that $16k machine should be $13k. Fine....but then who is actually going to spend only $6k on the Mac Pro? Even its supporters often admit that the $6k model makes no sense other than as a starting point for custom expansion: on its own, with "only" an 8 core processor, a minimal SSD and an iMac GPU, its going to be less powerful all round than the iMac Pro, and even an i9 iMac will probably beat it in a sprint.
The real complaint about the Mac Pro is the death of the $3K headless Mac for people who just want to choose their own GPU and displays and maybe add extra internal storage. Paying twice that for a system that offers no huge advantages until and unless you load it up with another $10k of upgrades is not value for money.
On Tuesday, we'll find out how much its going to cost to upgrade it to (say) 12 core, 1TB SSD and VegaII, then maybe we can stop kicking this $6k figure around. Based on past performance, though, Apple charges hefty markups on top of the retail price of the nearest equivalent components.
Meanwhile, it is nice to know that the definition of "Pro" means "has an unlimited equipment budget and no constraints on cashflow or credit".
In a corporate/enterprise environment, payroll and equipment exist in completely separate worlds, and mere mortal computer users don't have the privilege of amortising one against the other. Both will have their own independent budgets and their own bean counters, both of whom will have briefs to cut their spending. The whole game is to meet your efficiency targets by surreptitiously offloading your costs onto other departments and/or wage slaves doing unpaid overtime.
Good luck justifying that $14,000 Mac Pro system to your equipment budget manager if they get it into their head that a $7000 PC workstation and a $1000 course in Alternative Software Product (which they can get HR to pay for) will do the same job. Anyway - were you planning to take a pay/hours cut because your new Mac made you more efficient?
That’s still a $50/month difference: $265 vs. $215. If you work for a company that is so effing stupid they’ll take a person that costs them $10k/month and have them twiddling their thumbs because they won’t spend a few hundred on the equipment they need to do their job, do yourself a favor and quit now. Your company is very poorly run.
Departmental budgets are fine, but if your management can’t get you the resources you need to do your job, again, do yourself a favor: quit now. Your management is ineffective and you work for a poorly run company.
These complaints of, “oh, the sky is falling, its $3k too much, the base should be $3k” are not valid to who use these machines to do their job more efficiently. No CFO worth a damn says, “oh, that $30k machine should be $27k, you can’t have it”.
Even for a hobbyist, if you can’t spend $100 a month on your hobby—get a new job or a new hobby. Or cut out a dinner per month out at a restaurant with your spouse.
The 8-core cylinder is $4k; what did you think a full-blown tower—with a 1400W power supply, 12 DIMM slots capable of 1.5TB and 8 PCIe slots, with quiet, efficient cooling—was going to cost. $3k? In what world does that make any sense?
These complaints remind me of the bitching when Apple released the awesome Mac mini refresh last year.
Yes, the cheapest config went from $500 to $800. But the specs were upgraded from a dual core 15W CPU to a 65W quad-core desktop, the 4GB RAM became 8GB, the HDD (the “spinning rust” that all the “mini fans” bitched about) was replaced with a PCIe SSD, two Thunderbolt 2 ports became four TB3, a $100 10GbE option was added... and the fools in the mini thread bitched and bitched about a “60% increase in the base model”. It’s $300 effing dollars, for a MUCH better machine. $5 a month over a five year life cycle. Good lord.