Did your comfort level wearing AVP change over time?

[subjonas]

I’ve heard people differ as to how comfortable/uncomfortable they find wearing the VP, but what I’m wondering is how much that level can change over time, if at all, and over how long of a period (ie. this isn’t a question for people who only used it a few times).

- How long were you able to wear it before really wanting to take it off in the beginning vs now (or when you stopped using the VP)?
- Over how much time did that change (if any) occur? Or if it wasn’t a linear change (eg. the first two weeks was the biggest hump), please describe.

Thanks.

 

[OriginalAppleGuy]

I’ve heard people differ as to how comfortable/uncomfortable they find wearing the VP, but what I’m wondering is how much that level can change over time, if at all, and over how long of a period (ie. this isn’t a question for people who only used it a few times).

- How long were you able to wear it before really wanting to take it off in the beginning vs now (or when you stopped using the VP)?
- Over how much time did that change (if any) occur? Or if it wasn’t a linear change (eg. the first two weeks was the biggest hump), please describe.

Thanks.

Great questions. Had mine for about 2.5 weeks. Can’t say I’ve had issues wearing it for any period of time. Wore it less in the beginning but that’s as I was getting used to working with it more than comfort. And I was more concerned about how people around me. Would they think they I wasn’t present? Found out, not an issue.

There are days when I put it on and feel like I could wear it forever. There are times it feels heavy but it’s fairly rare. When it does feel heavy, I don’t feel like I need to take it off.

 

[surferfb]

It has. I think for two reasons:

1) I’ve gotten better about how to put it on in the optimal position and
2) I’m more used to have something on my face now.

I use the solo loop exclusively, for up to six hours a day, although usually no longer than 2.5 hours in a row. (Often need to take it off for on camera meetings).

 

[Timo_Existencia]

Yeah, after the first couple of days, I've settled on the Solo Loop Band and can wear it for several hours each day. Do I feel it? Yes, but it's not discomfort, and it doesn't bother me, especially in comparison to the advantages I have when using it.

 

[Macaholic868]

It’s like night and day for me now from when I first put it on. I can literally get lost in what I’m doing and forget I have it on these days. It’s not until I stop focusing in on what I’m doing and see the the edges of the POV that I’m reminded I have it on. I’m used to the added weight of the device at this point and have gone for hours with the headset on without feeling it’s added weight.

 

[3goldens]

Most definitely!

 

[Pink Panther84]

For sure.

However, after using the Double Loop Band for a week it's the better option for overall comfort.

 

[Rychiar]

I had a 21w and it wasnt too bad for comfort but occasionally it put pressure on my face in a way that my right eye Hrut and felt strained so i replaced it with a 22w… the 22w was uncomfortable at first but now i have no issues with it at all as long as the strap isn’t too high up on my head

 

[fanboy05]

Yes. I have learned how to wear it with no stress on my face now . 100 percent better

 

[fatTribble]

My experience has definitely improved over the almost 3 weeks I’ve had it. At first an hour seemed like a long time. That was probably my fault because I was using it before the lenses arrived. It looked clear but made me woozy. I’ve learned not to move my head around in awe of the Environments and Panoramas so much. So the motion sickness is all but gone. The weight seemed like a big deal the first day I got it and used it more than 30 minutes. Now I rarely think about it.

 

[spiderman0616]

My comfort level has definitely increased over time in several different ways:

1) Amount of time I can look at 3D movies before my eyes get tired and need a break
2) Amount of time I can USE the thing and not just want to constantly look at something different
3) Amount of time I can wear the hardware in general
4) Speed at which I can physically get the hardware on my face at the optimal position

As others have mentioned, I went from needing frequent breaks to needing almost no breaks in the span of about 2 weeks. Even 3D movies, which typically bother me in any format, don't bother me anymore on this device.

I suffer from chronic neck and back issues and haven't even had any problems in that area either. This is actually the main thing I was worried about during pre-order.

 

[fatTribble]

Blinking more deliberately definitely has helped too

 

[spiderman0616]

Blinking more deliberately definitely has helped too

YES! Once I have it in place and tightened I do a couple good hard blinks. Then I usually loosen it ever so slightly because my tendency is to overtighten at first. After that I'm good to go.

 

[- rob -]

It takes a while to get used to the fit and knowing when to adjust it.

There are other elements as mentioned here, I think your brain has to get used to the presentation and allow your senses to relax to experience it with low strain.

I think Apple has improved clarity, especially with 1.1. The IPD adjustment I’ve had pop twice since updating—maybe that’s a bug or the system is checking and adjusting more carefully.

One other item was I cleaned the lenses several days ago for the first time. This may sound silly but I hadn’t paid attention to them and they had residue that needed to be cleared.

Anyhow all of this stuff plays into it. It’s far, far more complex of a device to use than a phone.

iPhone is trivial to use in comparison, though I remember my first experiences with swipe gestures for iOS when the home button was to be eliminated and that felt bizarre.

 

[Ensyed]

It has. I can use for 2 hrs at a time.
Especially after I added a second strap to the solo strap. Someone recommended a cpap strap going across the top of the head

 

[spiderman0616]

It takes a while to get used to the fit and knowing when to adjust it.

There are other elements as mentioned here, I think your brain has to get used to the presentation and allow your senses to relax to experience it with low strain.

I think Apple has improved clarity, especially with 1.1. The IPD adjustment I’ve had pop twice since updating—maybe that’s a bug or the system is checking and adjusting more carefully.

One other item was I cleaned the lenses several days ago for the first time. This may sound silly but I hadn’t paid attention to them and they had residue that needed to be cleared.

Anyhow all of this stuff plays into it. It’s far, far more complex of a device to use than a phone.

iPhone is trivial to use in comparison, though I remember my first experiences with swipe gestures for iOS when the home button was to be eliminated and that felt bizarre.

I felt like the clarity improved a bit after 1.1 as well. I don’t think you’re imagining it. And I was thinking the same thing—the pupil measurement must be more accurate now.

 

[jclardy]

I've moved back tot he solo strap. The key for me is wearing it "high" - the mesh part goes over the top back of my head, so I hold it there while positioning the face, then tighten it down.

 

[xraydoc]

I’ve been able to wear it for 3+ hours at a time since day one. Maybe I’m a glutton for punishment.

 

[arfung]

Definitely. After using Dual Loop, I’ve gone back to the single and figured how how to use it comfortably. The bad is high on my head in the back; I adjust it up and down until I feel “even” pressure on cheeks and forehead when tightening the wheel; and then I loosen the wheel just a bit so that it isn’t pulling on cheeks and forehead.

Also, I feel like the clarity of both laptop pass through and rendering of AVP apps is getting a little clearer with each release. 1.1 looks better than 1.0 and 1.1.1 looks sharper to me compared to 1.1. May be placebo effect.

 

[rulymammoth]

Nothing changed for me which is why I returned it.

Side note: it's amazing to see how far off the activity on this forum has dropped compared to right around the release date.

 

[- rob -]

The subreddit is pretty active.

A lot of it is macrumors, I think. for one, the sub forum is totally buried.

But that’s not enough to explain the level of discussion.

To make this a hotbed of discussion, the site needs to be doing real reporting like interviewing app developers and detailed summaries of accessories.

There are many content pieces that could be written that are not right now.

There is even plenty of space to do affiliate marketing but the market size is pretty small.

 

[fs454]

Nothing changed for me which is why I returned it.

Side note: it's amazing to see how far off the activity on this forum has dropped compared to right around the release date.

Subreddits and discord channels are as active as ever. This forum did drop off, interestingly.

 

[spiderman0616]

Subreddits and discord channels are as active as ever. This forum did drop off, interestingly.

I stopped commenting about Vision Pro on this specific site because you can’t talk about it without someone being a jackass. That’s pretty much every topic on this forum honestly, but especially AVP.

This is not a good place to just “discuss” things. You have to constantly defend yourself from trolls.

 

[Polinsky]

I stopped commenting about Vision Pro on this specific site because you can’t talk about it without someone being a jackass. That’s pretty much every topic on this forum honestly, but especially AVP.

This is not a good place to just “discuss” things. You have to constantly defend yourself from trolls.

Completely agree. I can't even read the front page article discussions anymore. It's rabid anti Apple and anti AVP comments that are a complete waste of time. And let's not forget the jokes. Like "is Safari snappier" and "something -gate". Intelligent discussion simply isn't possible anymore. And these other forums, like this one, are similarly being infiltrated by hate.

 

[Polinsky]

Side note: it's amazing to see how far off the activity on this forum has dropped compared to right around the release date.

And why do you think that is? The answer is that those interested in intelligent discussion are drowned out by the haters. So why bother visiting or posting?