I distinctly remember being ignored when bringing this up during the last election cycle, but I was laughed at. Now that it’s in my favor, what should I do?
Snicker.
Get popcorn.
Sit back and watch the frivolities.
I distinctly remember being ignored when bringing this up during the last election cycle, but I was laughed at. Now that it’s in my favor, what should I do?
You could try to be consistent by joining those of us who believe that social media such as twitter and Facebook have been and continue to be harmful to society by promoting propaganda regardless of your political preference.I distinctly remember being ignored when bringing this up during the last election cycle, but I was laughed at. Now that it’s in my favor, what should I do?
No, you just haven’t stated a clear position on any of it. Cheers.If you can't follow the conversation, then there's no point in continuing it. Thanks.
Nice gotcha response but I sense reluctance to state your position, probably because you realize that the bill has been completely mischaracterized and you can’t win the debate on the merits.I never said that it did.
I agree on some of this— a huge percentage of the country cannot distinguish between opinion, fake news, and fact, whether they read/listen to WaPo, NYTimes, CNN, MSNBCLOL, and yes, sometimes Fox. And shock value opinion has been implemented to boost ratings and to play for social media likes.There are good, objective journalists all over the place. The Republican party's play, lead by the former president, to discredit the whole industry notwithstanding.
The main problem in journalism is the same problem that you are arguing for on Twitter. Actual journalism has to compete with the ******** and misinformation that Twitter and other websites surface through there engagement algorithms. This has resulted in journalism being packaged alongside the shock-value opinion shows that bring in the viewers/readers.
Sadly, a huge percentage of the country is unable to distinguish between news and opinion. (Also, many have no understanding of statistics and no patience for nuance.)
It’s problem in the arena of politics is that it’s incredibly biased against one side.Not really a difference. Calling it a "discussion platform" or town square doesn't change that it's a private platform for various types of content. It's problem isn't too much moderation. It's problem is that it promotes bad information.
When I click on a tweet of a right wing talk show host, I get a "more tweets" section that recommends tweets from Trump Jr, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Kevin Sorbo, Ted Cruz, Jim Jordan, Lauren Boebert, etc.It’s problem in the arena of politics is that it’s incredibly biased against one side.
What Twitter has done in the past was suppress *actual* trending hashtags, even replace it with hand picked ones. They (and Facebook) had a period during the election where you essentially got an instant suspension for posting a link or mentioning a topic. With Facebook, the suspensions increased each time, by the third it was 30 days, essentially threatening me not to post anything ‘bad’, because I use Facebook for other business tools, I couldn’t risk it.When I click on a tweet of a right wing talk show host, I get a "more tweets" section that recommends tweets from Trump Jr, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Kevin Sorbo, Ted Cruz, Jim Jordan, Lauren Boebert, etc.
23 of the 24 recommended tweets are complaints about Biden, or gloating about making libs cry, etc.
One tweet of the 24 is politically neutral, a guy announcing he's going into hospice. So I click to visit his page. The second post on his page is a meme with Elon's face pasted over Hunter's face, pulling the hair of the woman from the screaming Trump protester meme.
So if anything, Twitter is incredibly biased against the "other" side, no matter what side you are on. There are billions of tweets on either side of the US political divide. Even if it happens to be true that Twitter is removing more tweets from one side than the other, it still has an endless supply of political outrage tweets to push on you no matter what your views are.
How are the best ideas going to rise to the top in this free exchange of ideas if these social media sites just recommend content that reinforces your current beliefs?
A social media platform recommending more of what you like may be good in some non-political categories, but probably isn't the best tool to promote dialog between people of different political positions.
That's a perfect example of the problem. You believe that with absolutely no evidence, perspective, objectivity or sense of scale.However, the main issue seems to be collusion between Big Tech and these very corporate, elitist centers of mostly Leftist thought, silencing or suppressing other opinions and free discussion.
And yet you can't provide any metrics to justify that. I think it says a whole lot that every time misinformation is moderated, conservatives feel like they are being discriminated against. Perhaps because they post a disproportionate amount of the misinformation.It’s problem in the arena of politics is that it’s incredibly biased against one side.
“Being a significant minority” lol. Your talking 75 million vs 80. And that’s assuming ‘Biden’ really got 15 million more votes than Obama. Democrats have a way of screwing things with yellow journalism and far-from-reality adjective's. Trump is the second most voted president, behind Biden.That's a perfect example of the problem. You believe that with absolutely no evidence, perspective, objectivity or sense of scale.
For example, despite conservatives being a significant minority in this country, the top performing posts on Facebook are almost always conservative. How is that Big Tech conspiring against conservatives?
And yet you can't provide any metrics to justify that. I think it says a whole lot that every time misinformation is moderated, conservatives feel like they are being discriminated against. Perhaps because they post a disproportionate amount of the misinformation.
Again, I'm not a Democrat. I consider 7 million votes to be significant. Didn't realize that was controversial. Republicans have won the popular vote for president one time in the last 30 years or so.“Being a significant minority” lol. Your talking 75 million vs 80. And that’s assuming ‘Biden’ really got 15 million more votes than Obama. Democrats have a way of screwing things with yellow journalism and far-from-reality adjective's. Trump is the second most voted president, behind Biden.
“Significant minority”
I think the whole ”trending” thing is stupid. You can’t really just straight up list top hashtags, or you’ll get generic stuff like #art or #sex or whatever. So you have to list the trends that have changed the most. But stuff like that can be abused by brigading... a popular TV or podcast host or Reddit community can have all their listeners/members post something at the same time, so it’s not really an organic thing. Or Elon Musk could tell his followers to use #69420 and instantly create a trend. And once something is in trending, that just produces a feedback loop of causing more people to talk about that topic.What Twitter has done in the past was suppress *actual* trending hashtags, even replace it with hand picked ones. They (and Facebook) had a period during the election where you essentially got an instant suspension for posting a link or mentioning a topic. With Facebook, the suspensions increased each time, by the third it was 30 days, essentially threatening me not to post anything ‘bad’, because I use Facebook for other business tools, I couldn’t risk it.
There have been times when I see the above as you describes, specifically more recently, but I’ve also seen the exact opposite. Astroturfing exists. Bots exists. And ramping these specific measures during critical dates does exist.
But how would the Russian-bot-backed GOP win future elections?One thing that would really help IMO is to get rid of the bots.
Everyone is clear-eyed and objective enough to be critical of who they do not vote for. QAnon followers view themselves as objective and clear-eyed. As do the people who defend everything that Apple does.I laugh at the hypocrisy that is the modern day Democratic Party for actions past, present and (now) future. I am not very clever though. Just clear-eyed.
Elon Translated: Free speech is free speech... except for the stuff that annoys me... and we're going to use an algorithm to surface speech that I deem more valuable.
The fact that Facebook, WhatsApp, and Twitter would be completely under control of two billionaires should give anyone pause.
historically democrat publishers. How clear eyed are these takes, and headlines?Trump’s new social media site will bar users from making negative comments about it
The app bars its users from making derogatory comments about the platformwww.independent.co.uk
Truth Social already censoring content, bans user who made fun of Trump Media CEO
The @DevinNunesCow strikes again!mashable.com
Elon Musk personally cancels blogger's Tesla order after 'rude' post
A Californian venture capitalist had his Tesla Motors Model X order cancelled after he wrote about a badly run launch eventwww.theguardian.com
Elon Musk's Jet: The Twitter account that uses a bot to track Musk in flight
The account started by a teenager has been keeping tabs on Musk's private jet since 2020 using public ADS-B datawww.salon.com
‘@elonmusk Blocked You’: Twitter Users Blocked By Him Call Out 'Free Speech Absolutist' Elon Musk
While Elon Musk calls himself a 'free speech absolutist' and has spoken against Twitter blocking handles, his own past behaviour on the site shows he has indiscriminately blocked users critical of himnews.abplive.com
Again, I'm not a Democrat. I consider 7 million votes to be significant. Didn't realize that was controversial. Republicans have won the popular vote for president one time in the last 30 years or so.
After 4 years of social media suppression, fake hit pieces (dossier), and a non-stop onslaught of media barrage, the dude still became the second most votes ever for a president, and most ever for an incumbent. Imagine without that?For example, despite conservatives being a significant minority in this country,
There were around 240 million eligible voters in the 2020 election.Which is an 8% difference (75 vs 81), and in the scheme of the population that can vote(300m). It’s 3% (22% vs 25% of population).
This is nothing but partisan opinions supported by selection and confirmation biases.After 4 years of social media suppression, fake hit pieces (dossier), and a non-stop onslaught of media barrage, the dude still became the second most votes ever for a president, and most ever for an incumbent. Imagine without that?
No analysis was presented. It was just a simple fact.Interesting non-democrat analysis tho, very independent. I haven’t seen such wordsmith since watching Loki in the Avengers. If you were independent, you’d recognize that half the country is ‘the right’ - whatever your definition of that is
No idea what you are talking about. I did not vote for Elon Musk, and have been very critical of him in the past. I do not follow for QAnon at all, and denounce it. I recognize the hypocrisy of Democrats every time they either gain power or lose it (and even voted for a few). I do not defend everything Apple does -- in fact, I have been quite a vocal critic (i.e., the butterfly keyboard, the touchbar, etc.). Still, I am very clear-eyed. So, net-net, I have no idea what you are saying especially how it relates to my previous comment.Everyone is clear-eyed and objective enough to be critical of who they do not vote for. QAnon followers view themselves as objective and clear-eyed. As do the people who defend everything that Apple does.
Elon Translated: Free speech is free speech... except for the stuff that annoys me... and we're going to use an algorithm to surface speech that I deem more valuable.
The fact that Facebook, WhatsApp, and Twitter would be completely under control of two billionaires should give anyone pause.
For example, despite conservatives being a significant minority in this country,
I guess we’re arguing over the word “significant”. The difference is significant enough that republicans have won the popular vote for president once in the last 30 years or so.Significant minority based on what? Approximately 29% of registered voters are Republican plus a notable portion of independent and third party registered voters consider themselves "conservative." In each of the presidential elections this century, at least 45% of voters chose the Republican candidate. I wouldn't call any of this a significant minority.