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EU Prepares to Charge Apple in Antitrust Dispute With Spotify
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They said you can't download a car years ago, now you can....*taps side of head.
As much as I love Steve, that insight is obsolete, back in 2010 apps didn't have subscriptions, you paid it once and downloaded once and used perpetually. The 30% could be justified for that model back in 2010 for apps that you pay once.
But nowadays with streaming going mainstream, the 30% model on monthly payments is absurd. Why do you think Apple introduced the 15% after the first year? They know they are milking Spotify, Netflix etc unjustly and that the milking machine won't last.
So Spotify are still complaining that Apple (a competitor) are not bending over backwards to help them out. That is as silly as KFC complaining that McDonalds is not selling their fried chicken so that is somehow anti competitive.
Apple offer a competing service that happens to be part of a wider ecosystem, the App Store.
What Spotify are therefore demanding is that either Apple stop offering any service that competes with Spotify or that they charge more than Spotify do and thus give Spotify an advantage.
Spotify should be told that Apple are a business and not a charity and by their same logic I could sue Spotify because they do not allow me to sell my services on their platform!
I therefore demand they stop trading and give me $1,000,000,000 a year because it amounts to the same thing as they are asking in my view!
Spotify should either innovate/adapt or shut up!
Apple offer a competing service that happens to be part of a wider ecosystem, the App Store.
What Spotify are therefore demanding is that either Apple stop offering any service that competes with Spotify or that they charge more than Spotify do and thus give Spotify an advantage.
Spotify should be told that Apple are a business and not a charity and by their same logic I could sue Spotify because they do not allow me to sell my services on their platform!
I therefore demand they stop trading and give me $1,000,000,000 a year because it amounts to the same thing as they are asking in my view!
Spotify should either innovate/adapt or shut up!
I believe this statement is not of any merit!
Spotify should be told to stop acting like petulant kids wanting their own way because they say so!
It is called business not charity!
Not when those institutions are corrupt and self serving!
The only conflict is that Spotify is demanding an unfair and frankly illegal outcome!
They want Apple to never offer any service that competes with them or to raise their prices so that Spotify is always cheaper.
Spotify should shut up and grow up!
The only plan b is for those who sue to stop wanting a free handout and work for a living!
Customers do, it is the services like Spotify who are acting like spoilt kids.
Nope!
if I open a restaurant then why should I allow you to use my restaurant to cook your own food and sell it whilst offering me zero money for using my premises, power, food and staff etc?
The answer is I should not and you should either follow the rules I set down should I allow you or go elsewhere.
Spotify demand that Apple do business their way and allow Spotify to be the ONLY service on the App Store.
Competition policy does not work the way you think it does.
other way round!Spotify is already eating apple's lunch in the music space.
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Spotify would not be complaining like a child if they were not losing out!
Did you just call the macOS app market healthy? I’m a dev but you don’t need to be one to know the market is a joke compared to iOS.
Spotify has a point. Impossible to compete against Apple Music if Apple inflates your prices by 30%.
Do you think Mac's would be better if we only had access to the App Store? The Mac would be a complete joke if Apple would close "side loading" on Mac's, as the best software is not in the App Store.
So I am all open for allowing "side loading" on my iPad pro and iPhone.
Maybe the “best” software isn’t in the Mac App Store precisely because it can be downloaded from an external website.
Close up the Mac platform and I wonder just how many apps will suddenly make themselves available in the App Store because that’s the only way to access Mac users?
I assume by your comment you are American. This is a European lawsuit. And the problem is not what any private company does but a company that has a monopoly they can use try to squeeze others. It is a spiral that will end up costing more jobs and money than it will save anyone. It's a fairness principle that governs that nobody is above the people.
For corrupt you would need evidence. For self serving, That’s the point of them to look after and remedy their best interests, every government and large organisation is self serving surely.
You may not like the idea of government oversight of markets but time and time again it has been proven that Markets left to their own devices distort and become anti competitive, against the reasonable interests of consumers. Light touches are essential.
The App Store is the virtual equivalent of a Department Store. In Dept stores brands get to sell their goods in set locations, and pay a commissions to the Dept. Store.
This model is not new. It's as old as any of us and older. It's a proven model.
Yes and these Department Stores sell their own branded goods along side the other brands who have to pay a commission.
Apple being the Dept Store owner, also has the cost of developing and running it (heat lights and security at the door) etc. etc.) the analogy is a perfect match IMHO.
The truth is the EU is a monster and it's E.U.S.S.R now, technocrats paradise, playing pretend market economy. Britain did the right thing. More former countries may follow back to nationhood.
This model is not new. It's as old as any of us and older. It's a proven model.
Yes and these Department Stores sell their own branded goods along side the other brands who have to pay a commission.
Apple being the Dept Store owner, also has the cost of developing and running it (heat lights and security at the door) etc. etc.) the analogy is a perfect match IMHO.
The truth is the EU is a monster and it's E.U.S.S.R now, technocrats paradise, playing pretend market economy. Britain did the right thing. More former countries may follow back to nationhood.