Why not give consumers a CHOICE and offer a USB C model and a Lightning model? Then let the market decide instead of The Government Thy God?
Typical user? Not so much anymore. Anyone shooting ProRes or just massive mounts of video in general may (does) need higher speeds but the cable itself is not the limiting factor as Apple has already demonstrated it can support USB 3 speeds because they did on one of the pre USB-C iPad Pros. I honestly believe we are probably a model cycle or two away from the Pro iPhones supporting Thunderbolt and the regular iPhones supporting USB-C just like the Pro and the Air models in the iPad line now.So? What is the use case that the typical iPhone user uses the port to transfer large amounts of data on a regular basis? Personally I've transferred some photos off my iPhone to my desktop, but that might be a once a month event and it isn't done in a time pressured situation. All my app updates are done over wifi, which is (A) fast and (B) is something my iPhone is connected to when at home or the office. So where is the data transfer speed limitation?
One of the advantages to lightning is that it is a slightly smaller port. Also, in the US, lightning charger cables are more common than USB-C charging cables. But that should and is changing. USB-C is a fine connector. Of course the lighting was superior to those finicky USB-A mini and micro connectors and to the 30-pin connector, so I'm glad Apple came out with it nearly 10 years ago.
Why upgrade anyway? You will be able to install iOS 16 on your 12pro.This will be the iPhone to upgrade for 👏🏼👏🏼 iOS 16 does not offer anything that will make it reasonable to upgrade from my iPhone 12 Pro yet. Especially since we are looking at a price increase this year
I was thinking about it because the battery is going down to crap right now and I usually give my hand me down to my BF and his previous hand me down to my mum.Why upgrade anyway? You will be able to install iOS 16 on your 12pro.
We really don't have that many cable standards and all of the cables (with the exception of lighting) are actually standards. - Some flavor of USB. At the time the original law was proposed almost every consumer electronics manufacturer was creating their own charging cable and USB charging was the exception and not the rule. The fact that the industry got to the point where we can use one of three readily available cables to charge any phone made in the last decade is actually pretty impressive on its own and that came about without any regulation.Oh, if industry was clever, we would not have so many cables "standards" and EU could concentrate on other less important challenge.
I don't suppose the EU went as far as making the USB-C cable manufacturers label their cables so consumers can look at a USB-C cable and know whether it is charge-only or charge+data? And if the latter, is it USB 2.0 or USB 3.0/3.1 speeds, and if so, 5Gbps or 10Gbps? Thunderbolt 3 or 4? How many watts can the cable handle - 20W? 65W? 100W? And for charging phones, does the cable do QC or PD or both?
USB-C is a very capable cable, but for gods sake, label the cable so we know what it can do.
This salty American believes that if Apple or any other company were to invent some better technology than USB-c, they ought not to have Regulation prevent that innovation from moving forward. Also I believe that companies ought to design their products and can’t really see where the lightening port actually hurts any consumer so much that it needs the government to regulate it out of existence.Bunch of salty Americans in this thread complaining about proper legislation. Does the Apple fanboyism run that deep that even common sense is outweighed by their cheerleading for a tech company? LOL
Well, that's why I said supposedly, I'm not pro-Lightning by any means. I think I've heard some people argue that Lightning is a more stable connection, and obviously it can fit into a smaller space. I'm sure Apple has a load or reasons why Lightning is better, none being that it's a better way for them to earn money of course /s.What are the advantages ? From a data transfer point of view on iPhone lightning is stuck at slow usb2.0 speeds.
Why do they have to PAY people to turn in their old chargers? You have to bribe people to "save the earth"?The EU needs to institute a buy-back program where they pay the consumers to turn in their non-USB-c cables and chargers for proper recycling rather than send them to a landfill.
This is a really good point. Same with HDMI / HDCP, what a mess that's become.I don't suppose the EU went as far as making the USB-C cable manufacturers label their cables so consumers can look at a USB-C cable and know whether it is charge-only or charge+data? And if the latter, is it USB 2.0 or USB 3.0/3.1 speeds, and if so, 5Gbps or 10Gbps? Thunderbolt 3 or 4? How many watts can the cable handle - 20W? 65W? 100W? And for charging phones, does the cable do QC or PD or both?
USB-C is a very capable cable, but for gods sake, label the cable so we know what it can do.
Because almost nobody would take lightning if given the option of a USB-C portWhy not give consumers a CHOICE and offer a USB C model and a Lightning model? Then let the market decide instead of The Government Thy God?
Wild guess here, but I'd bet that Apple is over the moon about not having to include chargers in the box of many of their devices, adding millions or billions to their bottom line (since they aren't lowering device prices). I highly doubt Apple is interested in inventing some proprietary charging method again. They've learned their lesson from Lightning.This salty American believes that if Apple or any other company were to invent some better technology than USB-c, they ought not to have Regulation prevent that innovation from moving forward. Also I believe that companies ought to design their products and can’t really see where the lightening port actually hurts any consumer so much that it needs the government to regulate it out of existence.
Because almost nobody would take lightning if given the option of a USB-C port