I don't think Apple was actually planning what this says they were planning.
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European Commission to Release Draft Law Enforcing Mandatory Detection of Child Sexual Abuse Material on Digital Platforms
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So you're complaining about an institution that doesn't represent you because you failed to represent yourself to electing a representative that was closest to your views?Most of the UK never voted for one, we both know voter turn out for those was always very very low. Maybe some cringe interpretive dance would have helped get more people voting? EU is a joke.
Awkwardness in EU Parliament as delegates treated to interpretive dance performance
Following the bemused reactions and a hail of jokes at their expense on social media, EU conference organisers may want to rethink future artist interventions.www.brusselstimes.com
There's a broader discussion about representation and that people in the UK are just indifferent to having their views represented.
"The majority of criticism was leveled at Apple's planned on-device CSAM detection, which was lambasted by researchers for relying on dangerous technology that bordered on surveillance, and derided for being ineffective at identifying images of child sexual abuse."
Dangerous technology? Hash scanning has been a central component of file search since the 1950s.
Dangerous technology? Hash scanning has been a central component of file search since the 1950s.
Cant help but feel like Apple did some backdoor dealings
Apple- "Hey... so... do you guys wanna bring up CSAM again"
EU- Today, we are announcing new regulation on CSAM enforcement
Apple- "Aw shucks, guys we gotta abide"
I maintain we start with an exclusive beta enrollment for corporate executives, Hollywood, and DC and go from there.
Apple- "Hey... so... do you guys wanna bring up CSAM again"
EU- Today, we are announcing new regulation on CSAM enforcement
Apple- "Aw shucks, guys we gotta abide"
I maintain we start with an exclusive beta enrollment for corporate executives, Hollywood, and DC and go from there.
Just what the world needs... more government.
What do you mean by centralisation of power and how do you currently see it being implemented by the EU?
This for instance. https://medium.com/@_os/a-40-year-i...illion-european-fiscal-agreement-d7acf17f5fe0
They deliberately create crises (the euro crisis & Ukraine crisis for instance), and then use these to centralise more power.
Yes, it is dangerous because hashes can be made of any file - not just of child porn, but of pictures of demonstrations, audio files of speeches, memes, political manifestos, pictures of yellow and blue flags, etc. Apple gave the world an algorithmic blueprint that could be used by authoritarian regimes to detect all sorts of material while protecting 'privacy'. It was incredibly naive and negligent of Apple - the end product of letting engineers run amok without due consideration of the impacts of the work.
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Apple didn't invent hash scanning. Like I said, it was developed for file search over 70 years ago. Authoritarian regimes have had access to that technology before personal computing devices were even on the market. It's a bit late to be trying to label it as "dangerous" when it's a completely routine part of computer file search.
So let me get this right, because most of the UK never voted for one (they could have but they just couldn't be arsed) the EU is a joke? I can't believe people still believe and spread this nonsense six years after you fell for the lies about Brexit. If you do have an actual read about the EU, you'd find it's actually more democratic than the UK. But hey, never let facts get in the way of anything right?Most of the UK never voted for one, we both know voter turn out for those was always very very low. Maybe some cringe interpretive dance would have helped get more people voting? EU is a joke.
Awkwardness in EU Parliament as delegates treated to interpretive dance performance
Following the bemused reactions and a hail of jokes at their expense on social media, EU conference organisers may want to rethink future artist interventions.
Oh, and most of the UK never voted for Brexit either, hence Brexit is a joke. Following your own rules for jokes here.
Do you not understand that the new generation of chips optimised for AI changes things? And using hashes is only one component of Apple's scheme, which they described in detail in response to criticism, further letting the genie out of the bottle, rather than accepting that this was a bad idea.
Okay. This is beyond laughable now. The EU is straight up horrifying. Is there nothing off limits to what they’ll try to regulate?
Yes,the UK voter turnout was always a joke ,in the 2019 election it was 37.18% …in Denmark the voter turnout in 2019 was 66.08%.Most of the UK never voted for one, we both know voter turn out for those was always very very low. Maybe some cringe interpretive dance would have helped get more people voting? EU is a joke.
Awkwardness in EU Parliament as delegates treated to interpretive dance performance
Following the bemused reactions and a hail of jokes at their expense on social media, EU conference organisers may want to rethink future artist interventions.
Turnout 2019 European election
Read this : https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/12/world/europe/12iht-food.4.17771299.html
And these are just a few examples. They have tens of thousands of people working full time on similarly idiotic ideas.
I couldn’t readily find the leak of the draft. Is the proposal to mandate scanning of cloud-stored images? If so, that’s already being done by most or all tech companies (legally, illegally, or gray-area for blackmailing high-profile targets). If a company says they aren’t doing it, it’s only because their third-party “solutions provider” is doing it for them. Plausible deniability.
The bigger concern is if they mandate that images automatically be scanned and users’ phones self-incriminate by scoring pictures based on the probability of being illegal, regardless of whether or not that image is stored on a cloud service. Apple already has the guilt-scoring code built into new phones which makes it a very attractive target for governments.
The bigger concern is if they mandate that images automatically be scanned and users’ phones self-incriminate by scoring pictures based on the probability of being illegal, regardless of whether or not that image is stored on a cloud service. Apple already has the guilt-scoring code built into new phones which makes it a very attractive target for governments.
Ok but it’s not Brussels making these decisions.
It’s a group of people that are made up of representatives from each member state.
If you ignore the fact that the operational office is Brussels, (at any one particular time and certainly not forever), and just concentrate on the fact that a decision might need agreement from all or a significant proportion of those involved does that still qualify as centralised?
Do not those digital platforms, aka cloud-based services, check for this type of material already? The whole CSAM controversy, if I remember correctly, was about scanning it on device before the potentially criminal contents would get sent over to the cloud.
Nothing to see here, just Lorraine Powell Jobs, widow of Steve Jobs and primary owner of The Atlantic, cozying up with Ghislaine Maxwell. These are psychopathic hypocrites of the highest order.
I’m sure the UK citizenry is fine with it now that the EU can’t force them to accept migratory ducks…As opposed to the UK parliament and its floating duck islands paid for by tax payers?
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Anyway, no doubt the Conservatives in the UK, having already introduced the Snooper's Charter, and now freed from constraints imposed by the European Court of Justice, will do even worse than the EU.
EDIT: added picture of the actual duck island for the LOL's.
As far as I can tell based on news articles, it's the latter. Basically, what was conveyed so far sounds like they intend to put more or less directly into legislation what Apple has proposed last year with the client-side scanning for CSAM.
Remind these thugs that their devices will be scanned too, and that the findings will be sent to independent law enforcement authorities they haven't bought off.
Should get most of them to change their minds.
Should get most of them to change their minds.
That's how it works in the United States too. Each state gets two members in the Senate. (The equivalent to the upper house of Parliament.) The Lower House (We call it the House of Representatives) is based off of population. All this leads to states with very low populations having many more votes in presidential elections. (In the United States, the low population states tend to have much lower levels of education and much higher levels of poverty. They are generally failed states. The residents of these states tend to base most of their decisions on religion.) On top of all this, almost nothing can pass the Senate without a 60% majority, effectively giving the minority party the right to veto all legislation.
These pigs are more equal than others. They won't be bothered as long as they don't step out of line.
From a technical perspective, this would not work. A simple hash scan would be ineffective. If you used a hash, changing a single pixel would break it. What would need to be done would be to change the image into a vector, then train ML software to rotate, scale and compare that vector to a very large database. This would result in a very large percentage of false positives. When you had a positive, you would need to upload the original non vectored image and have a human compare it to the suspected child porn image. As most of these false positives would be very intimate images, this would be an extreme violation of privacy.