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aakshey

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Hi there.

I did some extensive battery testing on iOS 12.2 under the following conditions:

The iPad Pro 10.5 is cellular.

Cellular is turned on on both devices.

I used iMazing Windows to measure the real battery percentage, not the iOS reading, which usually differs quite a bit when its over 80%.

iPhone X is around 101-102% health after 157 cycles. iPad Pro 10.5 is around 89% health after around 220 cycles.

Both devices were connected to Wifi 5Ghz.

Note - My real world usage reflects battery life far worse than the below even if I am just doing Safari and Mail.

The extrapolated battery life assumes continuous screen on time with 0 standby and no interruption.

Autobrightness was on but not changing the brightness after I set it.

iPhone X

iMazing reading of 99% to 90% on Netflix, 25-30% brightness, speakers off.

iPhone reading from 100% to 95%

Approx 55 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~9.5 hrs.


iMazing reading of 90% to 85% on Netflix, 75-80% brightness, speakers off.

Approx 28 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~9 hrs.


iMazing reading of 85% to 80% on Netflix, 75-80% brightness, speakers at 50%.

Approx 26 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~8.5 hrs.

iMazing reading of 80% to 75% on Netflix, 75-80% brightness, speakers at 100%.

Approx 20 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~6.5 hrs


60 minutes of NetFlix, Wifi off, 4G still on, Netflix, 75-80% brightness, speakers 50%

Approx 11%

Extrapolated battery life ~9 hrs


iPad Pro 10.5

iMazing reading of 100% to 90% on Netflix, 50% brightness, speakers off.

iPhone reading from 100% to 94%

Approx 54 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~9 hrs.


87% to 82% on Netflix, 100% brightness, speakers off.

Approx 19 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~6-6.5 hrs.


81% to ~76% on Netflix, 50% brightness, 100% speakers.

Approx 19 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~6-6.5 hrs






 
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aakshey

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@FeliApple Would love it if you could repeat the above Tests on iOS 9 using Coconut Battery or Windows?

Alternately, you could make each rest of exactly 60 minutes?
 

FeliApple

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@FeliApple Would love it if you could repeat the above Tests on iOS 9 using Coconut Battery or Windows?

Alternately, you could make each rest of exactly 60 minutes?
@aakshey I'll repeat those tests exactly like you did them and let you know. My devices are: An iPhone 6s running iOS 9.3.3; and an iPad Pro 9.7 on iOS 9.3.4
 

aakshey

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@aakshey I'll repeat those tests exactly like you did them and let you know. My devices are: An iPhone 6s running iOS 9.3.3; and an iPad Pro 9.7 on iOS 9.3.4

Thank You @FeliApple

Do note, the readings to take are from Coconut/iMazing (and not iOS), unless specified otherwise. :)
 

FeliApple

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iPad Pro 9.7 on iOS 9.3.4: beginning of reading: 100% (as measured by Coconut).
Battery health: 85.2%, as measured with coconut battery right before starting, with the iPad at 100% battery.
Battery cycles: 334.
50% brightness, Netflix, 0% speakers, Approx. 54 minutes.
Coconut reading from 100% to 89%.

100% brightness, Netflix, 0% speakers, approx. 19 minutes
Coconut reading from 89% to 80%.

50% brightness, Netflix, Approx. 19 minutes, 100% speakers.
Coconut reading from 80% to 75%.

I must admit, I am extremely negatively surprised. These results are paltry. I have seen a drop in average battery life throughout the iPad's lifetime, but it was negligible, going from an average of 14 hours to the current 12-13 hours with the same usage and brightness.
My results are insanely better than this during regular usage, but I use it with 20% brightness.
iOS metric finished with around an hour and a half of usage with 80% battery left. During regular usage, I'm seeing around 3.5 hours of usage before it hits 80%.
@aakshey, what are your thoughts?
 

aakshey

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iPad Pro 9.7 on iOS 9.3.4: beginning of reading: 100% (as measured by Coconut).
Battery health: 85.2%, as measured with coconut battery right before starting, with the iPad at 100% battery.
Battery cycles: 334.
50% brightness, Netflix, 0% speakers, Approx. 54 minutes.
Coconut reading from 100% to 89%.

100% brightness, Netflix, 0% speakers, approx. 19 minutes
Coconut reading from 89% to 80%.

50% brightness, Netflix, Approx. 19 minutes, 100% speakers.
Coconut reading from 80% to 75%.

I must admit, I am extremely negatively surprised. These results are paltry. I have seen a drop in average battery life throughout the iPad's lifetime, but it was negligible, going from an average of 14 hours to the current 12-13 hours with the same usage and brightness.
My results are insanely better than this during regular usage, but I use it with 20% brightness.
iOS metric finished with around an hour and a half of usage with 80% battery left. During regular usage, I'm seeing around 3.5 hours of usage before it hits 80%.
@aakshey, what are your thoughts?

Dunno what to say.

My real world results are far worse than my scientific ones.

It’s possible your background activity is just adding up? Or that 20% brightness makes a lot of difference?

Can you check the 6s?

@FeliApple
 

FeliApple

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Dunno what to say.

My real world results are far worse than my scientific ones.

It’s possible your background activity is just adding up? Or that 20% brightness makes a lot of difference?

Can you check the 6s?

@FeliApple
I'll do it when my iPhone when I can, but I suddenly remembered that a 12.9 iPad Pro 1st gen user stated that he used his iPad with 100% brightness and that it lasted 4 hours. He also stated that battery life was normal. I knew brightness was the main factor, but I expected better.
I'm almost sure that with brightness that high, a decent battery life is next to impossible.
My iPhone 6s, now: 20% brightness, 37% left, 5h 35min of on-screen battery usage. If I increase the brightness I'd get 4.5-5 hours at most at 1%. Brightness is key.
 

aakshey

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I'll do it when my iPhone when I can, but I suddenly remembered that a 12.9 iPad Pro 1st gen user stated that he used his iPad with 100% brightness and that it lasted 4 hours. He also stated that battery life was normal. I knew brightness was the main factor, but I expected better.
I'm almost sure that with brightness that high, a decent battery life is next to impossible.
My iPhone 6s, now: 20% brightness, 37% left, 5h 35min of on-screen battery usage. If I increase the brightness I'd get 4.5-5 hours at most at 1%. Brightness is key.

So you’re saying going from 50% brightness to 20% brightness doubles your battery life?

I usually have my brightness between 50% and 100%.
 

FeliApple

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So you’re saying going from 50% brightness to 20% brightness doubles your battery life?

I usually have my brightness between 50% and 100%.
No, that's with 100%. I'll get 8.5 with 20%, 6.5-7 with 50%, and 5 (? with 100%. Not sure, I don't use it with 100% that often. I recall getting around 5 when I pushed it.
 

Radon87000

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They absolutely destroyed the battery life on iOS 12.2. My iPhone 7 Plus and iPhone X are both barely making it through a day. You can literally see the battery percentage drop every 2 minutes on the 7 Plus. 98% battery health. Was never this bad on iOS 10.
 

aakshey

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They absolutely destroyed the battery life on iOS 12.2. My iPhone 7 Plus and iPhone X are both barely making it through a day. You can literally see the battery percentage drop every 2 minutes on the 7 Plus. 98% battery health. Was never this bad on iOS 10.

Probably true.

As I said, my real world usage is much less than the above.

Somebody needs to sue Apple to the Stone Age. I already have all the proof and research sorted if they want to take my help. I have done complex measurements to the same effect.
 

Knight3

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Somebody needs to sue Apple to the Stone Age. I already have all the proof and research sorted if they want to take my help. I have done complex measurements to the same effect.

Could you elaborate on the complex part a little more?
 

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They absolutely destroyed the battery life on iOS 12.2. My iPhone 7 Plus and iPhone X are both barely making it through a day. You can literally see the battery percentage drop every 2 minutes on the 7 Plus. 98% battery health. Was never this bad on iOS 10.
Try 12.3. Battery life on max is pretty good, with a wet finger in the air approach.
 

Radon87000

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Try 12.3. Battery life on max is pretty good, with a wet finger in the air approach.

It’s probably manageable on the XS Max but the older devices have been wrecked. The iPhone X now lasts just 1 day as opposed to almost 2 on iOS 11. THe iPhone 7 Plus lasts half a day before kicking the bucket. The battery percentage doesn’t fall much in the 80-100 range. Once it falls below 70 it’s 1% every 2 minutes on LTE. Both phones are on 98&% battery health
 

aakshey

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Actually if I change my Airtel sim for a Jio sim, the battery life I get is the same as iOS 11. On my X.
 

I7guy

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It’s probably manageable on the XS Max but the older devices have been wrecked. The iPhone X now lasts just 1 day as opposed to almost 2 on iOS 11. THe iPhone 7 Plus lasts half a day before kicking the bucket. The battery percentage doesn’t fall much in the 80-100 range. Once it falls below 70 it’s 1% every 2 minutes on LTE. Both phones are on 98&% battery health
Battery life on 5s is pretty good for what they are. Surprised about the x.
 

aakshey

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It’s probably manageable on the XS Max but the older devices have been wrecked. The iPhone X now lasts just 1 day as opposed to almost 2 on iOS 11. THe iPhone 7 Plus lasts half a day before kicking the bucket. The battery percentage doesn’t fall much in the 80-100 range. Once it falls below 70 it’s 1% every 2 minutes on LTE. Both phones are on 98&% battery health

If it’s a launch day battery it’s defective if what you’re saying is true.

In my experience Apple batteries suck after 6-9+ months of use and/or 250+ cycles.
 

Radon87000

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Battery life on 5s is pretty good for what they are. Surprised about the x.
Scientific testing shows the same battery life. Actually worse on 12.3


Scientific testing shows iOS 10.3.3 shows double battery life compared to 12.3. No kidding. DOUBLE



Apple’s back to its old tricks. Now that they realise they can’t engage in planned obsolescence in performance, they decided to do it with battery life instead. Battery life has been halved on all iPhones since iOS 10.
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If it’s a launch day battery it’s defective if what you’re saying is true.

In my experience Apple batteries suck after 6-9+ months of use and/or 250+ cycles.

Apple batteries do suck. It’s the luck of the draw. My 7 Plus battery went from 100% to 91% in 3 years. 2 months of light usage after replacing in December and now it’s down to 98%. Don’t think it’s going to last as long as the original battery.

iPhone X, one year usage battery health % is 97%. Replaced with new battery in November. Battery health down to 97% after just 6 months.

iPhone 6s brand new purchased in March 2019. Mom uses it for music, streaming shows and light gaming. Battery health down to 97% after just 3 months.

Galaxy Note 9. 5 months used. 100% battery health.


In my experience, Android flagships last almost 2 days easily but lesser than brand new iPhones. iPhones start dropping battery health after just a few months and end up below Androids which manage to retain their battery health for longer.
 

guesswho183

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Why are you guys updating if you want best battery from your phone. It known that best battery life is with IOS that phone come with. I would never update mine X from IOS 11 but my carrier need to be updated because of 4G network...and now I'm on latest IOS :)
 

badatusernames

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Hi there.

I did some extensive battery testing on iOS 12.2 under the following conditions:

The iPad Pro 10.5 is cellular.

Cellular is turned on on both devices.

I used iMazing Windows to measure the real battery percentage, not the iOS reading, which usually differs quite a bit when its over 80%.

iPhone X is around 101-102% health after 157 cycles. iPad Pro 10.5 is around 89% health after around 220 cycles.

Both devices were connected to Wifi 5Ghz.

Note - My real world usage reflects battery life far worse than the below even if I am just doing Safari and Mail.

The extrapolated battery life assumes continuous screen on time with 0 standby and no interruption.

Autobrightness was on but not changing the brightness after I set it.

iPhone X

iMazing reading of 99% to 90% on Netflix, 25-30% brightness, speakers off.

iPhone reading from 100% to 95%

Approx 55 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~9.5 hrs.


iMazing reading of 90% to 85% on Netflix, 75-80% brightness, speakers off.

Approx 28 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~9 hrs.


iMazing reading of 85% to 80% on Netflix, 75-80% brightness, speakers at 50%.

Approx 26 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~8.5 hrs.

iMazing reading of 80% to 75% on Netflix, 75-80% brightness, speakers at 100%.

Approx 20 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~6.5 hrs


60 minutes of NetFlix, Wifi off, 4G still on, Netflix, 75-80% brightness, speakers 50%

Approx 11%

Extrapolated battery life ~9 hrs


iPad Pro 10.5

iMazing reading of 100% to 90% on Netflix, 50% brightness, speakers off.

iPhone reading from 100% to 94%

Approx 54 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~9 hrs.


87% to 82% on Netflix, 100% brightness, speakers off.

Approx 19 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~6-6.5 hrs.


81% to ~76% on Netflix, 50% brightness, 100% speakers.

Approx 19 minutes

Extrapolated battery life ~6-6.5 hrs






Not a scientific test by any means. A more scientific test would have done that test multiple times and try to stage the same conditions are much as possible. For example, while doing the test did your phone receive Mail in the background? What was the WiFi signal like on both the devices? Also, estimating the battery drain like that isn’t going to be accurate.

I think the most “scientific” test we can do is having the same iOS settings and draining the battery with a video test or something similar like Geekbench, the latter being more processor intensive. I don’t know if you’ve ever looked at the wattage of your iPhone while using it (using Coconut battery). You’ll notice it can fluctuate greatly. I would like a test that captures the battery was wattage very 30 seconds and saves it to a spreadsheet so you can chart it on a graph. I’m sure it can be done, if you’re aware of any app that does so please let me know.

I’m not discounting that you feel that you battery life has gotten worse, the fact that you’ve noticed it shows it’s no longer meeting your expectations.

I have an iPhone X (got in in March so the battery is still at 100%). I can maybe do a couple of tests on my phone for comparison. :)
 
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