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Sayhey

macrumors 68000
May 22, 2003
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San Francisco
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I loved the "Hell just froze over" caption. It amused me, but really, before too long it will be removed from the front page and replaced by something else and soon forgotten, anyway. Besides, according to Dante, the 9th circle of hell has always been frozen over due to Satan's flapping wings cooling it off to a deep freeze.

It's been a long time since I read the Inferno, but aren't Brutus, Judas, and Bill Gates on that level?
 

autrefois

macrumors 65816
Originally posted by Sayhey
It's been a long time since I read the Inferno, but aren't Brutus, Judas, and Bill Gates on that level?

http://mannym.8m.net/html/conspiracy.html

Don't know if other people have seen this or not. The first part about ASCII is true (I verified the ASCII codes), but I can't verify if some of the other things mentioned are true, and one or two things seem to be a stretch...

I in no way endorse this site (I guess I should say "for entertainment purposes only"?)--it just came up after a quick Google search based on your post. Funny, tho. :)
 

mproud

macrumors regular
Mar 3, 2003
164
0
The blocked the Apple sight because they didn't agree with one word.

That is sad.

RIDICULOUS.
 

manitoubalck

macrumors 6502a
Jul 17, 2003
815
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Adelaide, Australia
Re: Right is might in Australia

Originally posted by Sol
Well there is a minister called George Pell who jumps up and down when Marilyn Manson comes to town. I do not know about other states but here in QLD the transport minister spends half his day taking down billboards with raunchy content.

Oh, and our prime minister is a right wing ****** who is stuck in some idealised version of the past.

Adelaide is way to laid back, no shifty transport minister.

But how true you are about Little Johnney,
Entertain this: The Coalition of the willing
1: Toni Blair (Laber)
2: Johnney Boy (Liberal)
3: GWB (Texan Cowboy)
The odd trio in my mind,
 

hvfsl

macrumors 68000
Jul 9, 2001
1,867
185
London, UK
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Which is why we should judge individuals as individuals. But that doesn't stop us from studying and noting demographics.

If you want me to find a source for you PM me. This doesn't need to be on the thread.

Yes it does since others are interested in this source.
 

hvfsl

macrumors 68000
Jul 9, 2001
1,867
185
London, UK
Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Not unless you're a tightwad.

What is your problem, no need to give abuse or flame people, where you come from it may be OK to go up to someone and start saying curse words at them, but in most civilised places, people are meant to be polite to each other. I dont go up to people I dont know and say, 'Who the hell are you?'. It is just not done. This was why the word Hell is on the blocking list at many schools and why Apple needed to remove it from their site.

I am going to leave this thread now because you keep on flamering and pissing me off with your stupid comments, not backed up by any evidense. I could quite easily start cursing at you now, but I am not going to stoop to your level.
 

Swift

macrumors 68000
Feb 18, 2003
1,828
964
Los Angeles
What's the problem here anyway?

I can see, if you're relgious, the objection to mild phrases like, "Go to hell," or "Damn you." I mean, it seems like nit-picking, but I can see the nits. But to object to any use of the term, "hell"? So, if a preacher is saying doing x will send you to hell, that's wrong? Or a secular usage of the same word, an ironic jibe like, "Hell froze over"? That's just objecting to a word per se, and that's just a little nuts. I can't even see the nits here.
 

Potus

macrumors 6502
Jul 31, 2002
303
0
Re: macs are more intelligent/ non believers as well?

Originally posted by humantech
That is the most ABSURD thing I have ever heard... " You make outrageous claims- like you invented the question mark!" :)
.Could someone please post the links to the "studies" that have been done to prove that mac users and "non-believers" are smarter than their christian and pc using counterparts? I need a good laugh--
Honestly--- Because someone is an atheist, they think they have it all figured out.... BTW- I am a dyed in the wool mac user, Apple specialist reseller , paid Mac consultant , digital musician ( using macs of course) and a christian. BTW- We christians DO get to have sex, occasionally curse ( although its not really to classy to do so), drink and enjoy the arts.... ( yes even nudes)--- I'm also quite sure Mensa, Nasa and even more importantly, people who do all manner of real day to day building, designing, engineering, science , etc.. are christian. Albert Einstein himself believed in God. get a clue about reality and stop living in a college 101 philiosophy course - maybe you should practice a little diversity and actually hang out with some christians for a while so you better understand that they to are people with different beliefs from yours.... isnt that what atheism is about- ? Not believing unless you have some proof and facts, or at least use a scientific method to determine that " until proven wrong, there is a strong liklihood that this is correct"?

My 2 cents---
Tech

True.

I've actually met believers who were brilliant and well-educated. I know WinDoze users who have high IQs. I don't think that the fact that I am sceptical or use any particular product means that I'm necessarily any more (or less) intelligent

It was a cool ad... but it's just an ad. I think parents are hyper-sensitive about things which may or may not affect their children. The ad was based on the cliche "I'm prepared to wait for [x] until hell freezes over." In other words, I will not be changed or I have the patience of Job or I will wait until an oxymoron becomes realit. Adlai Stevenson when US ambassador to the UN, questioned the Soviet ambassador on the presence of missiles in Cuba and stated that he was prepared to wait for the answer until "Hell freezes over." As used in the Stevenson statement and in the ad, Hell is a location like Texas or the Antipodes. I think Apple recognized the hypersensitivity (perhaps misplaced) and changed the ad. It's not a big deal.
 

Mattnh

macrumors member
Oct 11, 2003
38
0
Groningen (NL)
Apple compromising

Why bother at all, people.
Flaming and throwing mud does not change anything at all and is pretty unfriendly.
A lot of religions seem pretty out-dated by me but there's still a lot of people that are sleeping better with their religion in the back-pack.
Personally I don't get involved with these people too much, aspecially when it comes to discussions. A lot of times it ends in some monologs instead of dialogs. Pretty dumn all together.
I'm just a bit disappointed that people who can't take a joke ('cause that's what the whole 'HELL'-thing was to me) could get Apple to change their funny intro-text/webpage for iTunes.
Comes to show that money (selling eBooks) seems more important to the CEO's than freedom of speech/making funny remarks.
It seems all a bit uptight, better let it rest.
There are more important things out there that can/need be changed with a little positive effort.
Oh no, a kernel-panic.
Sorry, gots to go ;)
 

Sayhey

macrumors 68000
May 22, 2003
1,690
2
San Francisco
If Apple changed it website so that filters from schools wouldn't block access of students to the site, that makes sense to me. What I don't understand is why those filters would stop the access to sites that use the word "hell." Don't we expect students to know and be able to explore what this word means? Seems like another case of the morality police run amok.
 

bcsimac

macrumors 6502
Nov 4, 2002
275
0
Bolivar, TN
Re: Keepin it real

Your real(ie reality) is not necessarily my real (ie reality). I personally limit the content that I watch. Personally, I don't want my kids saying hell unless it is in reference to what the Bible says or preaching a sermon or telling someone about salvation. I think keeping cuss words from kids is hard enough for parents...why should we make it any harder for them. People from the south do think differently than people from the north and west and east. They have as much right to think and feel the way they do about things as you do. Just for your references, I am a northerner who married a southerner and now lives in the heart of the Mid-South.....so I have some concept of what people here think. Personally, I think in general we have a huge problem with kids who are exposed to too much violence, rudeness, fowl language, impatience, unkindness, and purely bad behavior. I think we need to protection our younger children as much as we can and let them be what they are.....children.....not adults. We are trying to make kids grow up too fast. Let kids have their innocence. Yes, I agree that it was a good advertising and marketing joke. I was very much amused by it. However, I do think it is not appropriate for young children. By the way, I know of many of my Christian Mac using friends who have their kids on Macs as soon as they can crawl and hold a mouse. Would you want a 18 month old seeing that kind of language? I wouldn't. Anyway, it was an ingenious marketing ad; but bad in taste considering that Apple does have a big market in education.

P.S. "the truth" is not necessarily "the truth" it depends on culture and perspective. One other thing, I am a Christian Mac User.

Originally posted by rockman2023
HAHAHAHAHAHA, NIICE, HAHAHAHA, I LOVE THAT :D

What I'm not to thirilled about though is how society tries to "protect" children from "the truth", candy-coating everything. Sooner or later, they'll be exposed to reality. Just look at TV, plenty of violence on there. What about cartoons?? Whatever, i could give two flying pieces of rat sh*t.

That picture is priceless, HAHAHAHAHAHA
 

sethypoo

macrumors 68000
Oct 8, 2003
1,583
5
Sacramento, CA, USA
Re: Re: Keepin it real

Originally posted by bcsimac
Your real(ie reality) is not necessarily my real (ie reality). I personally limit the content that I watch. Personally, I don't want my kids saying hell unless it is in reference to what the Bible says or preaching a sermon or telling someone about salvation. I think keeping cuss words from kids is hard enough for parents...why should we make it any harder for them. People from the south do think differently than people from the north and west and east. They have as much right to think and feel the way they do about things as you do. Just for your references, I am a northerner who married a southerner and now lives in the heart of the Mid-South.....so I have some concept of what people here think. Personally, I think in general we have a huge problem with kids who are exposed to too much violence, rudeness, fowl language, impatience, unkindness, and purely bad behavior. I think we need to protection our younger children as much as we can and let them be what they are.....children.....not adults. We are trying to make kids grow up too fast. Let kids have their innocence. Yes, I agree that it was a good advertising and marketing joke. I was very much amused by it. However, I do think it is not appropriate for young children. By the way, I know of many of my Christian Mac using friends who have their kids on Macs as soon as they can crawl and hold a mouse. Would you want a 18 month old seeing that kind of language? I wouldn't. Anyway, it was an ingenious marketing ad; but bad in taste considering that Apple does have a big market in education.

P.S. "the truth" is not necessarily "the truth" it depends on culture and perspective. One other thing, I am a Christian Mac User.

Amen to that, I too am a Christian Mac User.
 

Sayhey

macrumors 68000
May 22, 2003
1,690
2
San Francisco
Re: Re: Keepin it real

Originally posted by bcsimac
Your real(ie reality) is not necessarily my real (ie reality). I personally limit the content that I watch. Personally, I don't want my kids saying hell unless it is in reference to what the Bible says or preaching a sermon or telling someone about salvation. I think keeping cuss words from kids is hard enough for parents...why should we make it any harder for them. People from the south do think differently than people from the north and west and east. They have as much right to think and feel the way they do about things as you do. Just for your references, I am a northerner who married a southerner and now lives in the heart of the Mid-South.....so I have some concept of what people here think. Personally, I think in general we have a huge problem with kids who are exposed to too much violence, rudeness, fowl language, impatience, unkindness, and purely bad behavior. I think we need to protection our younger children as much as we can and let them be what they are.....children.....not adults. We are trying to make kids grow up too fast. Let kids have their innocence. Yes, I agree that it was a good advertising and marketing joke. I was very much amused by it. However, I do think it is not appropriate for young children. By the way, I know of many of my Christian Mac using friends who have their kids on Macs as soon as they can crawl and hold a mouse. Would you want a 18 month old seeing that kind of language? I wouldn't. Anyway, it was an ingenious marketing ad; but bad in taste considering that Apple does have a big market in education.

P.S. "the truth" is not necessarily "the truth" it depends on culture and perspective. One other thing, I am a Christian Mac User.

First, if a 18 month old can read the word "hell" or any other word, then we need to know who they are for observation as child prodigies. I know I couldn't read at that age and my kids or anyone else I've every heard of couldn't either.

I agree, however, that you have every right to not look at or not allow your children to look at sites that offend you. What I don't understand is why your standards should determine what I can look at or what my children can view. Isn't it your responsibility to make those decisions with your family and mine with my family?

I really don't have a problem if the South is more straight laced than other regions of the country, I just don't want every region forced to adopt Mississippi morals. My own view is that it is a profound waste of time to concentrate on keeping children uninformed when we should be letting them know our viewpoints on challenging moral questions early on so they can make good choices later. Just my opinion.
 
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