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seans9

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I am writing a persuasive speech, and as my duty as a mac user, i need to persuade kids to make the switch.

other than apple's own switch website, what are some other good sites that explain why they should.

i need to have some good sources.

thanks
 

SummerBreeze

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http://www.xvsxp.com is a good site that lists a lot of pros and cons for almost every aspect of each system (with Mac coming out on top, of course) that should give yo enough technical info for you to write a speech on. Plus, you can always drive home the fact that there is no spyware/adware/viruses on mac.
 

alexstein

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Sun Baked said:
The Dell ate my homework, so I cannot help you.

HAH! That's a classic. Sorry mate I can't help you with a website or any other useful material. Instead of a speech you should do a show and tell.....:cool:
 

seans9

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SummerBreeze said:
http://www.xvsxp.com is a good site that lists a lot of pros and cons for almost every aspect of each system (with Mac coming out on top, of course) that should give yo enough technical info for you to write a speech on. Plus, you can always drive home the fact that there is no spyware/adware/viruses on mac.

Well i totally plan on using the spyware / adware / viruses as an argument, but i need a few more. any ideas?
 

DaftUnion

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No defragmenting...few if any maintenance at all...just go on Apple's site and use their top 10 reasons to switch...that should give you a good start
 

EricNau

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How 'bout IF (and only if) you have a problem, you can take it to any Mac store and they will fix it for free as long as it takes 30 minutes or less. It doesn't matter how old the Mac Computer is.

I'll post more if I can think of any.
 

EricNau

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The Mac OS is very simple compared to windows.
Example:
When you minimize a window on Windows, you have no idea what happened to it (this is of course assuming you are new to computers), where when you minimize something on Mac OS, not only does the genie effect look sooo cool, but it conveniently shows you where it went.
Also, the buttons themselves make more sense. They are modeled after a traffic light, something everyone in the world has seen and understands, therefore most could make sense of what they do on a Mac. Now look at the buttons on a Windows - I still have no idea what they mean :confused:
(please, don't explain it to me, I was just proving a point, I know what they mean)
 

EricNau

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What about the browser ever Mac comes with; Safari. It is by far the most advanced browser I have ever used (and yes, that includes firefox).
It has built in spell check, pop-up blocker, and best of all, an RSS reader.
Not to mention the nice little Bookmarks bar, makes all or your most favorite sites just one click away :cool:
 

ssj300

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i used both..xp and 10.4 and the truth is...

all spyware and viruses are written by mac users trying to make xp users switch because Almost all mac users were brainwashed while using their mac because its so simple?

things that osx 10.4 does that annoys me:

1. programs shut down unexpectedly, without a cause... errors that could not be reproduced in various programs (could i have a virus?)
2. produces mac fan-boys
3. not all online video clips are viewable, ie: funny clips sent by friends, some type of porno, etc.
4. i click on a program but it won't switch to that program... ie: im in ichat, i click on another chat window so on the screen that chat window is on top, but when i type, all letters are still being typed in the previous window. this is a inter-program and intra-program problem

things that xp does that annoys me

1. its ugly
2. it produces mac fan-boys
3. its ugly
4. its ugly
5. so many programs, don't know what to install and now i got a brain tumor?
6. its ugly
7. it is possible to get a virus or a spyware
8. u need to be computer literate to use an xp if you don't want virus or spyware
9. MY computer locks up at least once a year while trying to run world of warcraft, itunes, dreamweaver, photoshop, aim, and excel at the same time.


reason why i use 10.4: its pretty
reason why i use xp: i can do whatever i want

conclusion:
all functions found on 10.4 could be obtain by downloading 3rd party that may or may not contain viruses written by your local mac fanatic
ie1: spotlight could be replacaed by google's desktop search
ie2: spell check in all programs could be replaced by some spellchecker that i don't use.
xp doesn't have various nicely integrated small programs as mac does that becomes a need only after production.
xp is a ugly piece of poo that nobody should use, unless you want to play cool games that mac doesn't offer such as CS and all the porno u can handle.
 

electronboy

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seans9 said:
Well i totally plan on using the spyware / adware / viruses as an argument, but i need a few more. any ideas?

1. the registry, and everything about it. its just bad. Its easily gets corrupted and almost every app vendor writes to it, but never cleans up after themselves. It just gets bigger and bigger and more fragmented until Windows slows to a crawl or stops functioning all together.

2. Complexity. Windows is notoriusly complex fraught with too many options, levers, buttons, and gizmos. check out setting up a wireless connection on XP vs. OSX. OSX is much simpler.

3. Ease of use. The applications are easier to use and are better integrated with themselves and the OS.

4. iLife. Have you ever seen such a bunch of applications integrated and funtion so well? Not on Windows.

5. Precedence in the creative community. More than 75% of all Pro photographers, graphic designers, videographers, etc, use the mac.

6. No Device drivers. When was the last time you had to load a device driver to enable functionality in your computer that shipped from the factory? Apple users never have to load device drivers for Apple hardware, digital cameras, etc. It just works.

7. Stability. Every Windows users needs to reload XP at least once or twice in his lifetime due to the fact that the OS gets so junked up that it will eventually stop working. Then when you reload chances are that you will have to repeat step #6.

Let me know if you need more. I can keep going and going.
 

ssj300

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electronboy said:
8. Macs are well designed. Have you ever seen the inside of a PC? It is a rats nest of wires, connectors, and power cables. Check out the clean design and easy to service PowerMac G5 at Apple's website. They have pictures of the inside.

http://www.apple.com/powermac/design.html


Have you seen the inside of an emac?
compare the g5 to voodooo machines.
 

zap2

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ssj300 said:
i
all spyware and viruses are written by mac users trying to make xp users switch because Almost all mac users were brainwashed while using their mac


Yup , alll use Mac Folk hate Windows and hack it all the time!!!:eek: ;)
 

FoxyKaye

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I could probably boil down the things I like about OS X into a few points:

* Less rebooting. Every other security fix, patch and application in XP requires a reboot to install. It's irritating, time-consuming and pointless. Also, frankly, OS X locks up with a lot less frequency than Win XP - whether this is related to the Windows registry (as someone pointed out above), or some other issue is irrelevant. The BSOD is a common occurrance once a Win XP install gets to be about 6 months old.

* Speaking of security fixes and patches, OS X has a stable core. When it gets right down to it, Windows is contrived and always has been from the days it ran on top of DOS. It was never meant to be an OS, just a convenient way of looking at files on your computer. It's like hot-rodding a Yugo. At least Free BSD (Darwin) has a number of years behind it as a stable OS, and this makes a difference WRT how easily the OS is exploited by all sorts of virii/malware/spyware.

* iLife - a wonderful collection of applications. They've really grown on me. Heck, I know semi-pro musicians using GarageBand for all their tracks. As a whole it really knocks the socks off of what's available on Windows.

And, yeah, there's some stuff that's hard to work around on Macs: Safari (Apple's browser) sucks, there's no equivalent to dictation software like Dragon NaturallySpeaking, you'll have to re-buy software, using an iPaq with a Mac is like slicing bread with a rock (this includes Missing Sync), there's limited sync compatibility with a lot of mobile phones, more limited game availability (so I hear), and software vendors act like owning a Mac is akin to keeping your children chained to a pole in the attic. But as a long-time Windows user, I've found that with a little creativity, deeping developer support, and willingness to do some workarounds these issues aren't insurmountable.
 

EricNau

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ssj300 said:
so you are telling me that
mac copy windows?

Maybe Apple did copy windows in this case. 95% of the market in Windows, and that is the only thing windows does good; fail. Maybe Apple figured that they needed to get a part of windows in their OS so people would switch.

No not really, I was just trying to say that though it may bother you on OS X, Windows does it to, if not more, just as often.
 

EricNau

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FoxyKaye said:
I could probably boil down the things I like about OS X into a few points:
...
And, yeah, there's some stuff that's hard to work around on Macs: Safari (Apple's browser) sucks
...

WHAT!? :eek:

There has only been one website that Safari couldn't open for me properly (one small section of cisco.com). And yet it has Spell Checking, and RSS viewing, which I don't believe either Firefox or IE have. (please, correct me if I'm wrong)
 
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