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IBM confirms Altivec to be in 970!
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Except for the fact that xeon's are not for desktop machines. They are a server prossessor. They run extreamly hot and need a whole sh*t load of cooling. running one in a desktop machine would result in eather a really big cooling unit or a melted heap of slag.
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I hope that we finally get such a speed that without any test or benchmark whatsoever we will be able to kick the **** out of those grey (win)dozes and very badly ripped steal-offs (hear this Compack). But i do agree, reaching faster speed is wanna override faster speed. That's the problem, it's never enough.
I can still hear my neighbour say: WOW 2.4 GHZ, don't u love it. My question towards him: So, what are you planning to do on such a 'monster'. Answer (believe it or not): Word, Excel, Internet! (Me and my fam almost moved to another town).
I can still hear my neighbour say: WOW 2.4 GHZ, don't u love it. My question towards him: So, what are you planning to do on such a 'monster'. Answer (believe it or not): Word, Excel, Internet! (Me and my fam almost moved to another town).
Sorry, but I don't think that day will come, and if it does, it probably won't last long. What will more likely be the case is that computers will get so fast, have so much ram and storage, that the hardware will be indistinguishable without opening the case. When that day comes, indeed it is already fast approaching, software will determine the worth of a computer, and hopefully people will realize how much better OS X is.
Except for the fact that they are workstation/low end server processors, do not run extremely hot, and do not require a large amount of cooling. They are the exact same processor as the P4 with SMP enabled & have more cache. See these here? http://www.dell.com/us/en/bsd/products/series_precn_desktops.htm Xeons. Can be configured as dual.
Does Apple have exclusive use of Altivec? How do we know some other company is not adopting this tech?
Altivec is a vector processing unit on some processors made by Motorola and now IBM. Anyone who makes something that uses this processor, be it a computer or a router, can write code that uses the Altivec unit.
Re: Altivec compatable
Hehehehehehe...
Sure, who knows when these things will come out. It'd be great if it was January. But most indications and rumors point to late 2003, and usually rumors tend to be fairly accurate if enough people are stating them, right?
Hehehehehehe...
Sure, who knows when these things will come out. It'd be great if it was January. But most indications and rumors point to late 2003, and usually rumors tend to be fairly accurate if enough people are stating them, right?
But if another company wanted to utilize this technology, software vendors would have to rewrite code to accomodate Altivec, right?
Meaning, the only way Altivec could be used by another company is if their sofware is written specifically for Altivec.
Would this mean that only Apple could use this processor?
Re: Re: Altivec compatable
IBM itself says production volume in second half of 2003.
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Originally posted by jrv3034
Hehehehehehe...
Sure, who knows when these things will come out. It'd be great if it was January. But most indications and rumors point to late 2003, and usually rumors tend to be fairly accurate if enough people are stating them, right?
IBM itself says production volume in second half of 2003.
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Re: Re: Re: Altivec compatable
Exactly. It's confirmed by IBM that the chips will be produced then, but that doesen't mean it will show up in Macs right then. It could take Apple longer than that, although everyone hopes for sooner rather than later, of course. That's where the rumors come in.
Exactly. It's confirmed by IBM that the chips will be produced then, but that doesen't mean it will show up in Macs right then. It could take Apple longer than that, although everyone hopes for sooner rather than later, of course. That's where the rumors come in.
Yes, other companies would have to rewrite their software, but routers use software as well. The G4 is also used in embedded systems, which, again, have their own software. I read that Apple actually constitutes a minority of the G4 sales. Thus, it would probably be easy for another company who currently uses the G4 to switch to the 970, something which IBM might be hoping for.
What if.....?
IBM is making chips at an old facility now. A few thousand or so. And apple will put them into expensive powermacs in January. They must have these chips somewhere right now. The new plant will reduce the cost and number of chips for cheaper systems later on.
IBM is making chips at an old facility now. A few thousand or so. And apple will put them into expensive powermacs in January. They must have these chips somewhere right now. The new plant will reduce the cost and number of chips for cheaper systems later on.
It goes into VOLUME production in 2003. That means if Apple is going to use the chip, they've been testing pre-production units. Probably for awhile now. That way, when it does go into volume production (at least enough for IBM itself, and all of it's customers - there's sure to be other customers) Apple can start BUILDING the units right away. Not selling. If it goes into volume production in Spring/Fall 2003, it might take awhile before you can actually BUY the new Macs.
But I'm hoping for sooner than later.
But I'm hoping for sooner than later.
Re: What if.....?
IBM will not be making the chips in an old facility, and it's entirely possible that apple could be making a PPC 970 compliant machine/build. However, we all know apple doesn't usually get things perfect on the first release, so I would think that they might get a low end Xserve box out during the debut, and by the time the high end machine is up for shipping, the OS will hopefully be refined enough to run really well on the high end box. my only doubt is that apple is going to radically change the Xserve architecture all at once, because from what I hear from AppleCare people, they are all having to take some serious Xserve training, and having to re-learn all that would be a big waste of rescources... but it wouldn't be the first time. below is an excerpt from the newsletter. -dibbs
IBM will not be making the chips in an old facility, and it's entirely possible that apple could be making a PPC 970 compliant machine/build. However, we all know apple doesn't usually get things perfect on the first release, so I would think that they might get a low end Xserve box out during the debut, and by the time the high end machine is up for shipping, the OS will hopefully be refined enough to run really well on the high end box. my only doubt is that apple is going to radically change the Xserve architecture all at once, because from what I hear from AppleCare people, they are all having to take some serious Xserve training, and having to re-learn all that would be a big waste of rescources... but it wouldn't be the first time. below is an excerpt from the newsletter. -dibbs
I really hope that they release a powermac with the 970 in the next three months, because i am going to get what ever is availavle around that time, cause i need it for video editing...then i am planning on getting a powerbook. hopefully, there will be something great, cause i don't want to wait.
