Using the term”adult OS” implies that iPadOS is a “child OS” and is quite condescending. I know of many “adults” - real estate agents, lawyers, Notaries, shop owners, content creators, musicians, photographers — who use iPad as their main, if only device for their business. It'd be really great if tech people would realize they are not the only ones who are “professionals”.
I think a trillion dollar company can walk and chew bubble gum as they say. It will be okay.
They won't do it anyway, so it's a moot point. They want us to buy two devices. They are cowards.
If people want something like VMware on the iPad I suppose I could get behind that. Running the Mac as a VM alongside any other VMs would be a good solution as most people would never buy a VM and thus it doesn't have too much risk of disincentivizing native development and it is nerdy enough that anyone using it would likely know that they need a mouse and keyboard for it to work.
I would argue the second category does want desktop quality apps. There is a difference between a desktop app and a desktop quality app. It is fully possible to bring feature complete Apps to iPad, the fact that developers don't is not the problem of the software.
They probably can, but they probably wouldn’t. And yeah, from an economic perspective, it doesn’t make sense either.I think a trillion dollar company can walk and chew bubble gum as they say. It will be okay.
Got it, what term should I use? It simply can't do certain things. It doesn't allow side loading, it is limited in key ways, is if it knows what's best for us? So locked down? Fascist? I thought the opposite of all that being an "Adult OS" was a good way to put it.
Actually it is, the APIs are functionally different--especially when taking file and directory access. See Obsidian.MD for instance.
I've actually do this too, I found I just couldn't work on some large files without wanting to throw the iPad against the wall.
I think there are a few third party Apps but none of the ones I've found have good sync options.
I Love my iPad and only use my Mac for the software development part of my work.
You're right about some of the APIs, I suppose I was thinking of user facing features, most of the user facing limitations I find on iPad are just devs not bothering to build better Apps.
We should keep in mind that there is probably a reason that so many developers are in this boat. Maybe it isn't as easy as we think.
I also think that the way Apple runs the App Store makes it hard to charge the same money for an iPad app as for a Mac App. There is a similar race to free problem (though a little less sever) as on the iPhone.
I don't think you can equate remote desktop to having a VM with MacOS or Windows.
That's exactly what I said. It's not a matter of improving the OS. It's a matter of software companies porting their desktop apps to iPad with similar features and quality. That's not happening except for some exceptions.
Except, again, they have the iPadOS way more locked down from an API perspective. Read more about it from Lit and Lattte (the makers of Scrivener) and Obsidian.MD. The APIs are not the same between MacOS and iPadOS.
I did say “mostly” have this. I am aware of the limitations of remote connections, I’m just saying that in many cases we do have this. I didn’t bring my mac the last time I travelled because I had it configured to remote into and I knew I would have good internet.
I think allowing upgrade pricing would help As well. I use Affinity Designer on my iPad and it sucks that they can’t just offer me an upgrade price (though I suspect with the canva purchase they will be moving to subscriptions soon, which is sad), Omnigraffle is yet another App that I wish could be offered with an upgrade price to get to new versions.
I do agree with both... unfortunately that 20% of situations where internet is not good or not available is what made me give up iPad as an on the go device. And the time it happens and you cannot do your work, you say, never again.
I use Affinity Designer and Photo… I know there’s chatter about them moving to subscription with Canva acquiring them.
I think this is irrelevant, because in this day and age… if your internet is not good or unavailable… getting work done would be difficult regardless of having to rely on an iPad for remote sessions.
I think that allowing VMs on the iPad would be a good solution. As I said before, it’s a technical enough solution that it wouldn’t impact regular iPad users and wouldn’t have as many of the drawbacks of dual booting or hot swapping macOS and iPadOS.
I don't agree. I can work locally in my software for hours and I can update my files too. Then I only need internet for Dropbox to update everything in the background or to upload or send by email any work I have done...
I do agree. I have have been a proponent of MacOS as a VM, but the disadvantage of it vs dual boot is that 8GB is probably not enough for both iPadOS and MacOS so I doubt that would be offered on 8GB devices (it would be a poor experience) and 16GB iPads are too niche.
I wasn't including those file actions in the "heavyweight, crunchy stuff." I'm talking about things like creating and editing websites. For example, Wix works well on Mac, but lousily on iPad mainly because, despite Apple's claiming iPadOS's Safari is "desktop class," working with design elements falls apart there. Or photo editing - apps like Pixelmator Pro offer far more flexibility and options on Mac (as does iPhoto).
So if you owned a company that was successfully selling two product lines you would combine them into one and thereby halve your revenue?I think a trillion dollar company can walk and chew bubble gum as they say. It will be okay.
This gets back to some of us having a problem with modern Apple. Modern Apple is profit first product second. Apple used to seem to put products first and then expect that profit would follow.
Not if they price it high enough. Look at the Samsung Fold line. Make an iPad Ultra 12.9" with MacOS/iPadOS. It comes with appropriate new magic keyboard for $2000 and no one would complain.
