It happens the other way around too. Plenty of the apps I use on Android don't exist on iOS. You have to get used to something 'similar' which is never as good.
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Granted, I understand users don’t care to migrate to a new app. The argument I was making is foldables success is not dependent on Android tablet optimized apps. Because they exist for it. And yeah, the two of the most popular note taking apps doesn’t exist for Android… but users can find equivalent apps.
Android has a lack of adoption? If I’m not mistaken… they have the largest market share globally. One of main reason why devs prioritize iOS/iPadOS is it’s much easier to develop for…. Apple users tend to be on the latest iOS firmware. And the amount of Apple devices to create apps compared to Android… plays a huge part.
My tablet that I use every single day is a Galaxy Tab S7 Plus. I came from a iPad Pro. I’m very aware of the state of the two OSes when it comes to app quality and tablet support. I was being hyperbolic when I said 99%.
But looking at some of the apps on my home screen right now…Reddit, Yahoo Fantasy Football, Sleeper, Twitter, Facebook. None of them have tablet UI and it’s been a while but I’m pretty sure all of them do on iPad. There’s definitely still a gap in tablet apps on iOS vs android. That’s just a fact.
I am now officially a BAD person.
Ordered up an S23+ at $300 off + another 15% off (between Rakuten and credit card points).
Yeah, sorry left a word out, meant to say ’lack of tablet adoption’. And I’m sorry but devs prioritizing iOS development because of simplicity is just not true. You can only develop for iOS on a Mac, and tales of constant headaches associated with the development and approval process can be found everywhere. Based on marketshare alone, developers should be nearly always prioritizing Android.
So many applications being developed for iOS first is quite simply because of money. There are countless studies and reports that app revenue on iOS/iPadOS dwarfs that found on Android. This article summarizes the state of the app industry pretty well. Iphone and iPad users are typically more likely to buy apps and services. If I was a developer, I’d be hard pressed to do any different.
Some of the biggest apps in the creative sphere, apps like Photoshop, DaVince Resolve, the Affinity Suite of apps, and Pixelmator all exist for iPad OS but not Android. Look at Affinity’s site—there apps are available in the Apple and Windows ecosystem but not Android. Why do you think?
If tablets and tablet style foldable devices are going to succeed in Android, this has to change. Otherwise, what’s the point of that larger workspace?
Edit: Just wanted to add, I know a lot of ‘Fold’ users state they live mostly on the front screen. I’m just the opposite—I live on the inner screen. Unless I’m quickly glancing at some info, I’d much rather take the moment to open it up and put all of that extra screen real estate to good use.
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You are totally missing the point. I’ve stated the iPad is the gold standard when it comes to tablet apps… they are the leader in the space, again… not denying it.
It seems as if it’s a problem to be 2nd to it, if I want to use Affinity or Photoshop apps… I can use Krita on Android. And Adobe have some Android tablet apps (not Photoshop), but If I want to use a video editing software… there’s LumaFusion available for me.
You are lumping foldables with tablets specifically non-Flip style phones… and I’m looking at from the standpoint of price and durability, both of these factors is what’s holding back adoption. The average joe are more inclined to look at those two factors before purchasing.
$1800 for a foldable is tough to swallow and when consumers have to consider buying insurance… it’s even more.
What I noticed this year is that the s23 ultra (in the uk) has held secondhand values really well. Usually they drop like a stone in the UK but this year the s23 ultra is still strong money
I believe the other key reason is that Apple has aggregated the best customers in the world (defined as those with a higher propensity to spend), as evidenced by the iOS App Store bringing in more revenue than the google play store despite its smaller market share.
So if you tell developers they can earn more money with less work, it's a no-brainer to go where the money is.
Phone price and dev adoption go hand in hand. Foldables will get immensely better when app devs start making compatible apps. Better user experience will lead to more buyers. Which leads to more manufacturers jumping onboard and more competition means prices dropping.
Of course the inverse is also true. Lower prices now means more people buy which means more developers start making foldables specific version of apps.
It would be one thing… if there’s no dev presence for Android tablet platform, look at what happen to Windows Mobile OS. Microsoft had to completely abandon it due to no dev support and now pivoting into a different direction with Android.
And I agree, the more dev support the better. It would be asinine to disagree with that, but if theres a lack of tablet optimized apps… I would have jumped shipped along time ago.
That's great to hear.
The U.S. Samsung just ran a sale where they would give you US$900 in trade-in value for an S22 Ultra towards an S23 Ultra, plus a free storage upgrade from 256 GB to 512 GB. If you had a trade-in, cost of the phone was something like US$250.