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Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
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Fast charge introduces more heat as a result of more watts flowing in. People want fast charging, but it comes at a price. Qi 1.2 supports up to 15 watts, but I've only seen 5 watt models most of the time. Though I'm curious how the use of a 15 watt 1.2 charger over 365 differs from a 15 watt plugin charger.



What does 61 watts? MBP? The info on my chargers have been rubbed off over time.
Yes it's for the MacBook.
 
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GeorgeGeo

macrumors newbie
Jan 8, 2019
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How is your battery life at that capacity? How much screen on/screen off time? Do you notice a significant difference to when it was a 100%?

I really don’t feel any significant dirrence yet...
 

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BigDO

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Dec 9, 2012
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Yeah, pretty much same here. I'm sort of toying with an idea of trying an XS Max but don't know if the benefit battery wise will be worth it.

This is mine at 6% at around 18:30 (off charger at 06:00)

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estabya

macrumors 6502a
Jun 28, 2014
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I really don’t feel any significant dirrence yet...

Interesting. When mine was down below 90% it seemed to be draining at a noticeably faster pace, but it may have been in my head too since I knew where the battery capacity was.

That being said, there have been far fewer days where I find myself topping my phone off at work since I got the battery replaced 6 weeks ago.
 

BellsWhistles

macrumors member
Aug 17, 2009
71
41
California
I bought my X a month after launch. I charge the phone mixed wireless and cable charging. I typically charge it when it is around 60-80% of charge capacity. The battery health meter on the iphone still says 100%.

As I understand the Li-ion tech, you are better off not letting it drop below 50%. Since there is no memory effect, there is still a limited duty cycle lifetime (dropping below ~ 20%). Which is why hybrid and electric car manufacturers (which all use Li-ion) approach recharge cycles in the way they do. Never let it get low. From what I see, according to results of the other users here, that approach might actually be to my benefit.

Good luck to the rest of you....
 
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BigDO

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I bought my X a month after launch. I charge the phone mixed wireless and cable charging. I typically charge it when it is around 60-80% of charge capacity. The battery health meter on the iphone still says 100%.

As I understand the Li-ion tech, you are better off not letting it drop below 50%. Since there is no memory effect, there is still a limited duty cycle lifetime (dropping below ~ 20%). Which is why hybrid and electric car manufacturers (which all use Li-ion) approach recharge cycles in the way they do. Never let it get low. From what I see, according to results of the other users here, that approach might actually be to my benefit.

Good luck to the rest of you....

Your approach is ridiculous, because it means that you effectively have 40% battery at your disposal, at best.

Quite silly, really, given it's a thing which will be replaced in a couple of years at most, and that the battery can be changed inexpensively.

Good luck to you too....
 
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BellsWhistles

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Aug 17, 2009
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What exactly is this in reference to when it comes to mobile device batteries in the context of some sort of a noticeable effect on them?

Perhaps I stated it badly. Li-ion batteries have a theoretical limit to the number of times it can be charged. Keeping the amount of drainage from a full discharge does not count as a full charge. The approach is that a moderate charge requirement has a smaller decrement against that limit number.

Wikipedia states it like this (for what it's worth):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_cycle

I am stating how my phone registers it's battery condition now. The Battery health reading may be confused by my approach. I will keep doing that approach, since I have had good luck with other portable li-ion batteries devices. I have not needed to replace a battery on any of them. As the saying goes, your mileage may vary.

The following is after 13-14 months.


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bevsb2

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Nov 23, 2012
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My iPhone X purchased at launch was still 100% at 1 year. It was primarily charged once a day to 100% using a 12W charger. I'm a light user. My iPhone XS purchased at launch (same use and charging) is at 98%. I just saw this a couple of weeks ago for the first time, so it may have started at 98% day 1.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Perhaps I stated it badly. Li-ion batteries have a theoretical limit to the number of times it can be charged. Keeping the amount of drainage from a full discharge does not count as a full charge. The approach is that a moderate charge requirement has a smaller decrement against that limit number.

Wikipedia states it like this (for what it's worth):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_cycle

I am stating how my phone registers it's battery condition now. The Battery health reading may be confused by my approach. I will keep doing that approach, since I have had good luck with other portable li-ion batteries devices. I have not needed to replace a battery on any of them. As the saying goes, your mileage may vary.

The following is after 13-14 months.


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There are certainly cycles that play an important role. However, whether you charge the phone up twice from 50% to 100% or once from 0% to 100% it's still counted as a cycle (which is essentially what's mentioned in the last statement in that linked Wikipedia entry.)
 

Jimpilot

macrumors 68000
Sep 11, 2014
1,532
1,257
No
My Xs is at 96%. It was 100% until I got the Apple battery case for occasional use. It then dropped to 96% but has stayed there for several months.

Think the Apple battery case affected the internal battery?
 

joeblough

macrumors 6502a
Sep 30, 2006
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iphone X; manufactured 11/13/2017 and purchased near launch.

coconut battery: 360 cycles, 95.5% health
settings app: 95%, peak performance capability OK
 

aakshey

macrumors 68030
Jun 13, 2016
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I bought my X in late April of 2018.

By December 2018 I was down to 97%. After 200 cycles or so, approx. Maybe more.

I got the battery changed.

Now in May 2019 the new battery is at 99% after around 160+ cycles.
 

forza69

macrumors 6502a
Jan 30, 2010
779
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My iPhone X is at 94%. Bought launch day. I wouldn't say Im a super heavy user either. I don't know why its so low tbh.
 
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