iPhone 15/Plus Least radiation?

[Sami13496]

Everyone says this kind of radiation is non issue but then why France banned wi-fi in kindergartens? Their decision is based on research and findings. You can easily find information about it on google.

Don’f forget that we have only had smartphones in use in this scale for like 10+ years. Long term effects are still to be seen.

 

[one more]

OP, have a look here:

Apple Regulatory Information

regulatoryinfo.apple.com

 

[one more]

…as strange as it sounds, USB-C EarPods are offer better audio quality than AirPods.

Not quite, objectively speaking:

The 3 Best Apple Headphones of 2024: Reviews

The Apple AirPods Pro (2nd generation) Truly Wireless are the best Apple earbuds we've tested. These earbuds are the updated version of the Apple AirPods Pro Truly Wireless and offer some improvements.

www.rtings.com

 

[one more]

Everyone says this kind of radiation is non issue but then why France banned wi-fi in kindergartens?

I believe that the French argument was that babies’ skulls are thinner than those of grown-ups, so they would be more susceptible.

Home broadband providers, on the contrary, enthusiastically push for WiFi 6 for homes, promoting its faster speeds and longer ranges, covering the “most remote corners of your house”. And if even this is not enough, they will offer you a WiFi 6 repeater(s).

Update: the French law came in 2015 and applies to places where small children (under age of 3) are gathered.

 

[Jim Lahey]

Nearly everyone will tell you that RF radiation is totally harmless but in reality no one really knows 100%. Has there ever been a twenty year clinical trial where the control group were kept in a faraday cage and the the test group had a cell phone strapped to their head 24/7 to see if they got cancer? Of course not. Personally I limit my exposure where possible, but others will laugh and mock because they think they know better. No skin off my nose.

 

[Wando64]

Or which phone would be the best with least radiation and work well without 5G turned on. Thank you awesome people

All phones work well without 5G turned on, as long as your local network has a good non 5G service.

The phone emitting the least radiations is (generally speaking) the one with the lowest signal, and therefore the one working worst.
Also, if you live in an area with very bad signal, your phone will be blasting away at maximum power all of the time just to maintain a connection. This is to say, emissions are not constant. They depend on other factors.
Just because a phone could operate at a certain power, it doesn’t mean that it does so all of the time.

You are mentioning “least radiation”, so let me ask you, what is your baseline?
What level of radiation would make a specific phone acceptable to you?
Without an answer to this question you are just trying to quell your fears without knowing what you are actually supposed to achieve.

The best way to avoid a phone radiation is to keep it in airplane mode until you need to use it, but this negates many benefits of having a phone in the first place.
Beyond that, you can limit your exposure by using wireless headphones (which have their own type of emissions anyway) or using it in speakerphone mode or with wired headphones.

However, as almost everyone else has stated, I personally don’t think there is anything to fear from using a modern mobile phone, as long as you don’t keep it pressed to your ear for hours and hours every day.

 

[Wando64]

Besides, “radiation” implies something about radioactive material. If that kind of material ever exists on those devices at a concerning level, Apple would be in huge regulatory trouble before even shipping products worldwide.

You might benefit from reading this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation

 

[MacProFCP]

I need a new phone asap. My service provider is offering A great discount on iPhone 15. I’m questioning that haha so if anyone knows how is the 15 on emitting radiation? Or which phone would be the best with least radiation and work well without 5G turned on. Thank you awesome people

Although a minor issue with some analog cell phones in the 80s and 90s, modern, digital, cell phones do not have this issue.

You will not be getting any brain tumors due to your cell phone.

 

[ivan86]

I need a new phone asap. My service provider is offering A great discount on iPhone 15. I’m questioning that haha so if anyone knows how is the 15 on emitting radiation? Or which phone would be the best with least radiation and work well without 5G turned on. Thank you awesome people

I've noticed that people almost turn hostile on various tech forums, including this one when issue of radiation is even mentioned - matter not if it is Bluetooth earphones we are talking about or general cellphone use.

iPhones historically had SAR level more or less between 1 and 1,2-1,3 W/kg.

Will just share my own story. Back in the day I have purchased Sony Ericsson K770i as a substitute for another phone I had. It was a perfect phone back in the day (2008) other than... I've noticed when I would start a phone call I would just start to have a headache almost immediately. I've also noticed that my head would switch to some kind of "resistance mode" and connection quality would be dropping dramatically as well.

I had no idea what was that about and started to do the research. I have quickly found out that it's SAR level was higher than legal limits in USA. It was 1,69 W/kg for the phone and it was 1,6 W/kg the legal limit (back than - not sure what it is now).

I have straight away looked for the phones with the lowest SAR level and purchased some Samsung flip phone which had SAR of around 0,25 W/kg. It was perfectly fine while in use...

After that story took place I realised that I'd better prepare myself for higher levels of EMI, since it was clear that we are being exposed to it more and more year after year. I've took courses of one specialist in bio-energy work and explored the whole new level of all things energetic "workouts" for my own body. That was quite intense since after only 2 weeks of studies we were able to grasp "energetic fingerprints" from a particular person's private item (such as chain / ring that he/she is wearing, a wallet etc.) and perform special "energy workout" with that person while he / she was not right in front of me, but rather just walking around somewhere in the same building. So that person would start feeling the work himself... And I would feel the same when we "switched sides"... Of course we did learn how it feels when we've get some exposure to "energetic vampires" or anything along that line. Now I was really surprised about all that, since I was thinking that it was the kind of stuff that Tibetian Monks are practicing for their whole life... 2 weeks. *I also thought "what the heck are we learning in at schools when we really know nothing about ourselves and our bodies after it"...


Going back to the case at hand - cellphone radiation.

My recommendation:
1) Switch off wifi and bluetooth when you do not use them. I have set my iPhone so that a triple tap at the back does just that (you can set it in Settings > Accessibility > Touch).
2) Use "speakerphone" function for all conversations.
3) If situation does not allow using the loudspeaker (loud environment, privacy issue or too many people around) - just hold the earpiece with the distance from your head (like 1-3 cm) and have a rather short conversation.
4) If you only need to be in touch and care not about all the internet stuff on your phone but you do hold it close to your body - switch mobile data off as well...

I have no issues using iPhones the way described above.

I am however not using any Bluetooth earphones / headphones. Now I have tried quite a few to see how bad they are and no matter which ones I would try I would start to get headache after just few seconds (or pretty much immediately) or sometimes closer to one minute of use. Have tried the latest iPods Pro and after 30-40 seconds I began to feel the typical discomfort...

One more story. I wanted to switch to wireless security system at home and went for Ajax after watching some good review about it. After I brought the system, plugged in the main module to start the configuration... I began to feel pretty bad headache. Once I have plugged out the main module from the outlet - it was gone. I wen't to settings to see if I can dial down it's signal like in a typical router but found no such option. When I called the support I was told that there is no way to adjust the strength of the signal via application... Now, to the "fun part"... In the support documents it is mentioned that the wireless modules that are placed receive connection to the base station within 1,5 km in a dense populated area!!! That is - in the city! This is just crazy and should not be allowed but... here we are. *I have just checked their website and now it shows that their "hub 2" is working at a distance of 2 km at open air - that is it seems like they have reduced the wireless transmission signal from the original model to some degree.

Now to each their own of course. I am glad that my body lets me know exactly when I am exposing myself to something that harms it one way or another. No matter the smartphone - I am not carrying it in my pants side pocked for more than a minute unless it is in Airplane mode, since my leg just feels unpleasant if I do :-D

I have actually met several people who would experience headache from various tech, but they simply did not think that a bluetooth headphone or a wireless router literally placed between the legs can cause it ))) After my suggestion to "give yourself a break" / "increase the distance to router, reduce its signal somewhat" and have a glass of water - things improved quickly...


Anet, more or less you are unlikely to find a smartphone with SAR of less than 0,8 W/kg since most of them are stuffed with various wireless tech. Just be conscious about your typical smartphone use and choose the one that you desire most. You should be good to go. It's not that much about the phone itself - it is about how you use it ... )

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

I need a new phone asap. My service provider is offering A great discount on iPhone 15. I’m questioning that haha so if anyone knows how is the 15 on emitting radiation? Or which phone would be the best with least radiation and work well without 5G turned on. Thank you awesome people

The impact that cellular/wireless radios have on humans is inconclusive and minimal at worst.

You should be far(!) more concerned about microplastics.

Well, it's not very productive to be concerned about microplastics since the entire globe and most organic tissue is already smothered in them and there's nothing close to an easy solution for removing them or even using plastic significantly less.

Get whatever iPhone you want. It's not going to matter much now or long-term for your health.*

(*Well, the low-value, low quality, feature stunted, outdated everything of iPhones SE 2020 and 2022 are sure to break the spirit of any sane being. But that's another discussion)

If it gives you peace of mind then holding your smartphone as far away from your head at all times would make a bigger impact on radiation exposure than opting for a specific model that, supposedly, emits less radiation than another model.

This could include using a wired headset or the speakerphone function when making calls.

Most likely not going to impact you much either way. But you do you. 🤷‍♂️

 

[JtheLemur]

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is no phone an option

 

[AlmightyKang]

I'm not sure what they teach people at school these days.

I used to hang around in large elephant sized metal coffins with high power synthetic aperture radar arrays getting cooked for 5 hours a day. I have three normal kids, one eye and three balls. All fine.

 

[canuckRus]

I'm not sure what they teach people at school these days.

I used to hang around in large elephant sized metal coffins with high power synthetic aperture radar arrays getting cooked for 5 hours a day. I have three normal kids, one eye and three balls. All fine.

must wear extra foil?

 

[AlmightyKang]

must wear extra foil?

Yeah make sure you have a pointy wisp on the top of the hat though or the entire thing will be ineffective.

Edit: Sick but funny. My father was paranoid about RF. Died of lung cancer. From smoking for 50 years. Was convinced it was the RF though...

 

[AgeOfSpiracles]

If your phone isn't emitting radiation, then it's not functioning correctly and you should have it serviced.

 

[fatTribble]

The iPhone, like a variety of other tech emits non-ionizing radiation (and in very low amounts). The kind, that as @casperes1996 mentions the sun emits.Non-ionizing radiation includes visible, infrared, and ultraviolet light; microwaves; radio waves; and radiofrequency energy from cell phones.

You want to be concerned about ionizing radiation - that is the kind that has enough energy to remove an electron from an atom or molecule. And THAT radiation, as already mentioned, is the kind you find only around nuclear material or in the aftermath of a nuclear explosion or accident.

Tin-foil hats are unnecessary here.

Your facts about science are so refreshing, especially here

 

[eyoungren]

Your facts about science are so refreshing, especially here

I'm fairly good at regurgitating Wikipedia!

Plus, I can blame them if I'm wrong, LOL!

But thanks!

 

[AlmightyKang]

I'm fairly good at regurgitating Wikipedia!

Plus, I can blame them if I'm wrong, LOL!

But thanks!

You're not wrong.

However RF can cause dielectric heating, which is how your microwave works. But your phone isn't a microwave.

 

[ThunderSkunk]

Hm. I remember being in college the first time and seeing cells mutate with intense non-ionized RF exposure. I also remember the mid-late 90s when my Aunt developed a brain tumor and the Docs pointed out that those early shoebox sized cellphones of the time, which she was using all day long & sleeping next to at night, were a known risk and people like her were cashing in on settlements for their families before they died, which she did, and then did. I remember being marched around a corner and suddenly realizing we we'd strode over the yellow line right up to an AWACS dish and feeling a unique tingle that gave our civilian physicist on the project a horrified look when we asked him about it. Within a couple years, Nokias & Blackberries were everywhere, & there was nary a peep about any harmful effects of running a hot antenna up against your skull all day. When the original iPhone 2g came out there was some public concern that they'd be attached to us all day, and Apple responded with some blurb about it only being potentially harmful if held closer than a few inches from the head for long periods, which most people wouldn't do because most phone calls are short and most people use the EarPods anyway, due to the comfort of smashing your ear with a small brick for hours at a time. That was the last I head of anyone caring about the subject. I assume that in the time since, antennas have lowered in power and sheilding has improved to the point it's an acceptable risk, but then I'm just guessing, which I might as well, because considering all the fully certain cancer & other disorder-causing pollutants, ingredients, and contaminants we are perfectly fine with not seeing, knowing about, or just thinking about, clearly the people have spoken with their wallets and everyone prefers convenience & shiny new thing excitement to the negative nancies and their cancer & debilitating disease talk. Don't worry OP, you have more important things to think about. Have you checked Facebook recently? Find out what your friends have said about you in the last 7 minutes.

 

[antiprotest]

Just let it happen. It's...it's really not something you need to worry about.

 

[AlmightyKang]

Hm. I remember being in college the first time and seeing cells mutate with intense non-ionized RF exposure. I also remember the mid-late 90s when my Aunt developed a brain tumor and the Docs pointed out that those early shoebox sized cellphones of the time, which she was using all day long & sleeping next to at night, were a known risk and people like her were cashing in on settlements for their families before they died, which she did, and then did. I remember being marched around a corner and suddenly realizing we we'd strode over the yellow line right up to an AWACS dish and feeling a unique tingle that gave our civilian physicist on the project a horrified look when we asked him about it. Within a couple years, Nokias & Blackberries were everywhere, & there was nary a peep about any harmful effects of running a hot antenna up against your skull all day. When the original iPhone 2g came out there was some public concern that they'd be attached to us all day, and Apple responded with some blurb about it only being potentially harmful if held closer than a few inches from the head for long periods, which most people wouldn't do because most phone calls are short and most people use the EarPods anyway, due to the comfort of smashing your ear with a small brick for hours at a time. That was the last I head of anyone caring about the subject. I assume that in the time since, antennas have lowered in power and sheilding has improved to the point it's an acceptable risk, but then I'm just guessing, which I might as well, because considering all the fully certain cancer & other disorder-causing pollutants, ingredients, and contaminants we are perfectly fine with not seeing, knowing about, or just thinking about, clearly the people have spoken with their wallets and everyone prefers convenience & shiny new thing excitement to the negative nancies and their cancer & debilitating disease talk. Don't worry OP, you have more important things to think about. Have you checked Facebook recently? Find out what your friends have said about you in the last 7 minutes.

The majority of these cases come around because people do not understand the nature of chance and have extreme selection bias because of the locality of their experience. Worth reading this if you can be bothered https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statistical_hypothesis_test ... the following graphic summarises it pretty well. The distribution shown is completely random events so the critical value where further investigation is required is shaded in red. I tend to err on the side of 1% when doing arbitrary selection there which is a lot further right.

That may only prove a correlation and not a causal outcome on top of that! In fact we don't tend to find causal conditions, just correlations. And as you state, there are other potential causes.

I mean a good one worth asking is does salt cause high blood pressure? Well it correlates but the causal link is dubious. It could be because other factors both lead to high blood pressure and a diet which contains too much salt.

Back many moons ago when I was learning about this a lecturer who was very angry with me being an idiot and not understanding this. He explained my stupidity with a simple comment:

"Divorces are heavily correlated with going to the cinema so you better stop going to the cinema!"

(Theatre for the Americans in the room)

I did go to the cinema a lot. Then I got divorced. Then I spent some of my life with a doctorate social scientist / researcher who didn't understand any of the above either (or even BIDMAS). YMMV in academics.

Findings: Eat well, don't smoke, don't drink (well not as much as me), don't take stupid risks, don't worry too much.

 

[applepotato666]

You are already bombarded by this kind of radiation. It's everywhere around you both from everyone's Wi-Fi and the cell signal but also from natural sources so it doesn't really matter whether you have a receiver in your hand or not. Your body is absorbing it either way. This radiation is non-ionizing so it doesn't have the effects people associate with the word 'radiation'.

 

[Wando64]

You are already bombarded by this kind of radiation. It's everywhere around you both from everyone's Wi-Fi and the cell signal but also from natural sources so it doesn't really matter whether you have a receiver in your hand or not. Your body is absorbing it either way. This radiation is non-ionizing so it doesn't have the effects people associate with the word 'radiation'.

I believe normal use of modern phones is completely safe, however with regard to your statement, radiation doesn't have to be ionising to be harmful.
For example, UV light is a form on non-ionising radiation that can cause cancer in high doses.
Microwave and heating are non-ionising radiations, but they will still cook your chicken, or any meat exposed to high doses.

 

[Wando64]

But your phone isn't a microwave.

The phone is not a microwave oven (obviously), but it is nevertheless a microwave emitter.

 

[applepotato666]

I believe normal use of modern phones is completely safe, however with regard to your statement, radiation doesn't have to be ionising to be harmful.
For example, UV light is a form on non-ionising radiation that can cause cancer in high doses.
Microwave and heating are non-ionising radiations, but they will still cook your chicken, or any meat exposed to high doses.

Yup, I mean more so that in the context of the legal limit being I believe 1.6 W/kg which is quite a bit below what would be even close to dangerous. 1.6 W/kg is extremely conservative and then some more.