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SiliconAddict said:
We have Dell 1.7Ghz, 128MB RAM in the office I work in and it runs acceptably fast with Windows 2000. No system should EVER crash from lack of RAM. The system should be paging out to the pagefile and that shouldn't take a system down.


i have a dual g4 450mhz with 2048 mb ram and my system never crashed from lack of ram :)
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El Duderino

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Mar 29, 2004
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thatwendigo said:
CompUSA sells macs, actually. I'm trying to talk the local one into hiring me as an Apple specialist on the general sales staff.
the only reason i want bestbuy to sell it is becuase i work there, discount...hehe :D
 

rog

macrumors 6502
Apr 9, 2003
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I hope this comes out soon and fixes all the problems I am having on my bondi blue imac. You'd think it would work better on such a recent machine. I mean, it's got 64MB and that ought to be enough for anything!
 

T'hain Esh Kelch

macrumors 603
Aug 5, 2001
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rog said:
I hope this comes out soon and fixes all the problems I am having on my bondi blue imac. You'd think it would work better on such a recent machine. I mean, it's got 64MB and that ought to be enough for anything!
Welcome to the real world! OSX demands 128 Mb ram...

The grachic errors you are having is due to your lack of VRAM.
 

solvs

macrumors 603
Jun 25, 2002
5,684
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T'hain Esh Kelch said:
Welcome to the real world! OSX demands 128 Mb ram...

The grachic errors you are having is due to your lack of VRAM.

I think rog was being sarcastic.

El Duderino said:
the only reason i want bestbuy to sell it is becuase i work there, discount...hehe :D

I believe the web site has Macs for sale on them, if that helps. They used to sell PowerBooks, though that was a pilot program. At least you can buy a discounted iPod.

Calebj14 said:
umm that was a little unecessary! remember who invested in apple when steve came back? (cough)bill gates!(cough)

Maybe you should read the page in question. My favorite quote - "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armor to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he, who by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place." -Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Speaks volumes about why most of us dislike him. Mediocrity, at best, has become the standard thanks to him. Besides, it was to resolve a lawsuit. And his investment made him a tidy profit to boot. There's a lot more to the story, you should read up on it.

Bill doesn't come out looking so good.
 

ingenious

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Jan 13, 2004
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JFreak said:
you are correct - the osx (the macintosh gui) doesn't run on any other platform than ppc, but darwin (the os beneath) runs on x86 nicely.

apple probably has internal osx r&d version running on x86 hardware, they just don't see the point in releasing it to public. it's kind of an insurance - you know - when they are well prepared to change the cpu architechture, they most probably never have to.

yes i knew i was correct (sorry if that sounds conceited.. :() i am NOT a computer newbie!! :D Yes I knew Darwin ran on x86. I downloaded it, but havent done much with it. I dont know about the R&D thing tho... I guess we'll see.
:rolleyes:
 

ingenious

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Jan 13, 2004
1,509
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solvs said:
I think rog was being sarcastic.



I believe the web site has Macs for sale on them, if that helps. They used to sell PowerBooks, though that was a pilot program. At least you can buy a discounted iPod.



Maybe you should read the page in question. My favorite quote - "The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armor to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he, who by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place." -Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Speaks volumes about why most of us dislike him. Mediocrity, at best, has become the standard thanks to him. Besides, it was to resolve a lawsuit. And his investment made him a tidy profit to boot. There's a lot more to the story, you should read up on it.

Bill doesn't come out looking so good.


actually, i have read the site. i wasnt even tho it looked like it, defending bill gates. i think that some things on that website take it to the way extreme, tho. thats all i was saying. i really really do not like bill gates. after all, he created windows and his company duped me into buying this pc! maybe i should sue for false advertising that its secure and stable!! :D
 

musicpyrite

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Jan 6, 2004
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Cape Cod
titaniumducky said:
Really? I've never gotten a kernel panic.


Since I've had my iMac from about October, I have gotten ~7 kernel panics. :mad: But I think it's my fault; running Safari, iTunes, Limewire, Mail, iChat, and Adobe Photoshop cs all on 256 MB RAM.
 

stoid

macrumors 601
kenaustus said:
The interesting thing to me is that Apple is able to continually develop OS X with major upgrades on close to an annual basis and continual tweaks during the year. Sure, the annual upgrades cost $129 - which I'm happy to pay - but the tweaks are free. How can they keep this up when MS is flopping around year after year with Longhorn?

Keep it up Apple - you're the only one delivering significant upgrades on a continual basis!

MS programmers are too busy trying to write patches for all these viruses to work on Longhorn.
 

El Duderino

macrumors member
Mar 29, 2004
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solvs said:
I believe the web site has Macs for sale on them, if that helps. They used to sell PowerBooks, though that was a pilot program. At least you can buy a discounted iPod.
the discount i got on all the products are just a touch above the edu. discount. but the bestbuy PSP (warenty) makes it worth it since it also covers the battery as well as the everything else. and for the record, that e-machine mobile 64 has up to 5 hours of battery life. i hate to say it but i think im going to have to get the e-machine, maybe ill get an apple once the pc crashes :)
 

7254278

macrumors 68020
Apr 11, 2004
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NYC
Nice

Sorry but this definetley deserves page 1 status.
Its a big update.

Do you think it affect the price of panther?
 

titaniumducky

macrumors 6502a
Nov 22, 2003
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musicpyrite said:
Since I've had my iMac from about October, I have gotten ~7 kernel panics. :mad: But I think it's my fault; running Safari, iTunes, Limewire, Mail, iChat, and Adobe Photoshop cs all on 256 MB RAM.

I have 512MB of RAM - I got my PowerBook June 2003 - Last Ti revision. I almost ALWAYS have Safari, iTunes, iChat, and Mail open. Often GarageBand and Address Book. Photoshop (7) too. The worst that's ever happened is after playing UT2003 demo, the program wouldn't quit - left me with a black screen. Powered down and up. Technically, though, the OS didn't crash and therefore, it's not a kernel panic.
 

JT3MacManiac

macrumors member
Oct 1, 2003
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wdlove said:
Rather than me joining "Different District" could you post the highlights of 10.3.4? It would be greatly appreciated. ;)

sry, that is a member benefit :p its some cool things though


registration is free...why not?
 

jared_kipe

macrumors 68030
Dec 8, 2003
2,967
1
Seattle
Calebj14 said:
x86 are Intel/AMD type processors. i think the term came from the 186,286,386,486 processors a long time ago, but i could be wrong. Macs use a different type of processor that is made by IBM and Motorola called the PowerPC. Completely different arcitecture

It, in fact, comes from the Intel 8086 who was a 16 bit processor. The successor, 8088, was only an 8 bit because more programs were running on the 8 bit side of things.
 

JFreak

macrumors 68040
Jul 11, 2003
3,151
9
Tampere, Finland
jared_kipe said:
It, in fact, comes from the Intel 8086 who was a 16 bit processor. The successor, 8088, was only an 8 bit because more programs were running on the 8 bit side of things.

you're wrong. intel's first 16bit processor was called 80286.
 

bousozoku

Moderator emeritus
Jun 25, 2002
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JFreak said:
you're wrong. intel's first 16bit processor was called 80286.

I'm not sure what you mean by 16-bit, but the 8086 and the 80186 were both considered to be 16-bit processors. The 8088 was considered a 16/8-bit processor.

Besides, it you're differentiating on memory bus, the 80286 could be considered a 24-bit processor.
 

JFreak

macrumors 68040
Jul 11, 2003
3,151
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Tampere, Finland
bousozoku said:
I'm not sure what you mean by 16-bit, but the 8086 and the 80186 were both considered to be 16-bit processors. The 8088 was considered a 16/8-bit processor.

Besides, it you're differentiating on memory bus, the 80286 could be considered a 24-bit processor.

well, definitions are everything :)

actually even 8086 had a 20bit memory addressing (1MB, wo-hoo), but anyway, the 80286 was considered the first PURE 16bit architechture. you're right in stating 8088/8086 was considered a 16bit processor because in the inside it tried to be, but suffered from 8bit physical bus on the outside. in reality it was little more than a kludged up 8bit processor. (the 8088 also had 8bit registers if my memory serves me right, whereas the 8086 might have had 16bit words. but don't flame me on this because i'm not sure if i remember it correctly...)

so in my opinion one can argue about this and i don't mind. i just hope apple can release faster 64bit cpu:s and also put it in low-end models ;)
 
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