May 18th? G5 Updates?

[Crikey]

Which do you want? Price drops or new revisions? They're mutually exclusive. When a product is on its way out you get price drops and special promotions. When it's brand new you pay top dollar.

Not to put words in tunanut's mouth, but I assume he is speculating that when the 3GHz G5s come out, one or two things will happen: the current 2GHz G5s will go on close-out sale, and/or the old top-end 2GHz machine may become the new low-end machine and sell for under $2000. So what he said makes perfect sense.

I gotta say I don't see the next G5 rev taking us to dual-3GHz land. Just because Steve said a year ago he'd like to be there by now, doesn't mean "he promised" or that Apple will achieve his goal. We have heard about yield problems; that's enough to indicate that while we'll probably see bumps, they probably won't be as lofty as Steve would like.

To me, that's okay. The dual 2GHz Power Mac kicks ass. A dual 2.4 would kick ass at the end of June, with a dual 2.2 in the middle and the dual 2.0 or even 1.8 at the bottom.

As soon as the chips are there, they'll go to 3GHz. Probably by the end of the year? Who knows.


Crikey

 

[BakedBeans]

I gotta say I don't see the next G5 rev taking us to dual-3GHz land. Just because Steve said a year ago he'd like to be there by now, doesn't mean "he promised" or that Apple will achieve his goal. We have heard about yield problems; that's enough to indicate that while we'll probably see bumps, they probably won't be as lofty as Steve would like.

To me, that's okay. The dual 2GHz Power Mac kicks ass. A dual 2.4 would kick ass at the end of June, with a dual 2.2 in the middle and the dual 2.0 or even 1.8 at the bottom.

As soon as the chips are there, they'll go to 3GHz. Probably by the end of the year? Who knows.


Crikey

my take on things is that why would apple ait till wwdc to launch a 2.2 or 2.4 that to me is a minor speed bump....
a dual 3ghz would rock the world

 

[Digitalzoom]

I'm well friggin peeved with Apple UK. After being told my CTO Dual 2Ghz G5 was being upgraded and it obviously wasn't. My new order number is another 2Ghz dual G5. Why I don't know.
I'm tempted to cancel & wait a few weeks for WWDC.
In some ways its good because a annoucment before WWDC would mean no 3Ghz G5s until late summer.
I think we will see something like 3.2 or 3.4 Ghz Dual G5 Powermacs.
oh Well they say The best things come to those that wait......

 

[iriejedi]

Take one for the team!!!!

Take one for the team man! I know the feeling - I'm sitting on CASH! That is a first for me and my pending upgrade!!!! Now that I've reached computer fund levels of unprecedented amounts - nothing but a rebate offer!

So I say take one for the team! Buy NOW and let the upgrades flow like mana from heaven.

Every time I buy they get a new model every two months. Tweeks, boosts incentives and price drops all the time... but now Nada!

So it is someone elses turn.... buy now and let the rest of us reap the benfits of your impatients!

Any one ever attempt to answer my question I lost on a thread somewhere. Of why even the NEWEST G5 referbs ship with 10.2.7 and include an upgrade to 10.3? Wouldn't it be a nice perk for apple for format the drives and install 10.3 for us? I mean if they are including it and all....

Oh well time to wait with the rest of you.

IJ

why is it everytime i DON'T want to buy a new mac, there seem to be flooding the market with revisions, but now, when i would love to see the dual 2g drop in price, i'm growing cobwebs on my amex?

so what's the deal with the monitors, no great shakes? i heard the 20" is all around better rez, but what brands/models are superior (in your humble, unbiased opinion)?

 

[InfoKill]

I've been waiting sooooooo long for my G5!!!
I think one more month is going to kill me.
Im planning on getting the dual 1.8 for video editing and graphic work, but im not sure if they are going to drop the price of it come wwdc. this is going to be my first mac and i dont want to waste any money.

advice?

 

[Duff-Man]

I'm well friggin peeved with Apple UK. After being told my CTO Dual 2Ghz G5 was being upgraded and it obviously wasn't. My new order number is another 2Ghz dual G5. Why I don't know.

Duff-Man says...it ius possible that the "upgrade" on your order is just the new faster superdrive...that change may require that Apple issue a new order number....oh yeah!

 

[iriejedi]

Advice my 2c

Wait til WWDC and if no new stuff - buy that day get overnight delivery and video edit all summer

Duff-Man says...it ius possible that the "upgrade" on your order is just the new faster superdrive...that change may require that Apple issue a new order number....oh yeah!

 

[Skiniftz]

I gotta say I don't see the next G5 rev taking us to dual-3GHz land. Just because Steve said a year ago he'd like to be there by now, doesn't mean "he promised" or that Apple will achieve his goal.

He didnt say he'd like to be there now, at WWDC 2003 his exact phrase was "IBM and Apple are today announcing that within 12 months, we'll be at 3Ghz."

I don't know about you, but coming from the CEO of the company on stage at a major conference I'd call that pretty official.

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/wwdc03/

 

[tunanut]

Not to put words in tunanut's mouth, but I assume he is speculating that when the 3GHz G5s come out, one or two things will happen: the current 2GHz G5s will go on close-out sale, and/or the old top-end 2GHz machine may become the new low-end machine and sell for under $2000. So what he said makes perfect sense.

that's precisely what i meant. thanks for clarifying my murky statement, crikey.

i'll settle for a mid priced dual 2 g!

 

[macnews]

While I am dissappointed to not see any upgrades, I have hope there are some to be announced at WWDC. The lack of any upgrades makes me think we will not see 3.0Ghz. For those of you who are holding off on upgrading here is a juicy tidbit for you: I annually buy at least $10k worth of new computers from Apple or more. This year I will be spending upwards of $30k, one of which is a new Xserve. When I was speaking to some techs and my rep at Apple, I asked about my buy window. In otherwords, should I wait until WWDC or could I buy before and start getting stuff set up. My rep is normally very quick to spit out the line "we never know what is coming until a few days before it is announced". This time, however, the tech and the rep both said in terms of the xserve it might be worth while to wait until WWDC, as well as for my other computer purchases. Nothing more than that but after all these years it is more than I have ever gotten out of them. I would also think if they were not releasing anything new they would encourage current sales, esp. on an xserve.

Take it for what it is worth. Nothing definete but my rep has been very good to me in the past and looks out for me.

BTW - to start it off, I predict updates next Tuesday.

 

[qubex]

I've been wanting a dual-G5 since their release last year. My request was finally approved by the Company in March but by then I elected to wait for "the imminent Revision B G5s" - which of course have never arrived.

So the other week, acting partially on impluse and partially out of sheer exasperation, I renegotiated the deal with the Company and ordered a 1.5 GHz 15" PowerBook instead.

That said, I fully expect Revision B G5s to be unveiled at WWDC. Though I expect they won't be available until September, I'm absolutely sure there will be a token dual-3GHz machine on show so Steve can gloat about delivering on his promise of "3GHz within a year". I simply don't see him being willing to publicly admit defeat.

As for XServes, I'll really be surprised if the G5 units will be updated anytime soon. The RAID XServe still uses a G4 chip if I'm not mistaken, so perhaps that'll see an upgrade in the near future. At best I expect we'll see slight speed-bumps and perhaps a few new application-specific XServe incarnations.

 

[Skiniftz]

That said, I fully expect Revision B G5s to be unveiled at WWDC. Though I expect they won't be available until September, I'm absolutely sure there will be a token dual-3GHz machine on show so Steve can gloat about delivering on his promise of "3GHz within a year". I simply don't see him being willing to publicly admit defeat.

You beat me to it. My thoughts precisely, however I was going to say "available August".

 

[wdlove]

I've been waiting sooooooo long for my G5!!!
I think one more month is going to kill me.
Im planning on getting the dual 1.8 for video editing and graphic work, but im not sure if they are going to drop the price of it come wwdc. this is going to be my first mac and i dont want to waste any money.

advice?

Are you interested in the 23" Cinema Display also? If so, then you would get a $500 rebate from Apple. Some of the catalogues like MacMall & MacConnection have some special deals on the G5.

I agree that the PowerMac will be updated at WWDC, but not be available for a month or two. It just all depends on you patience level.

 

[InfoKill]

No im not going for the 23" also (waaaay to much money for me ) but yeah im just trying to get the best deal. if they do anounce something at wwdc how long after will it go into effect?

 

[houseofmind]

G5 Refurb

I couldn't take the wait for the Rev B g5, and took the plunge and purchased a Dual 2.0 Refurb. To my surpise, 10.3 came pre-loaded, it came with 1 gig of RAM, and a 8x Superdrive. It may be that I lucked out and they were out of the other parts, but it was certainly a welcome suprise! I couldn't be happier with my refurb purchase.

 

[jsw]

I couldn't take the wait for the Rev B g5, and took the plunge and purchased a Dual 2.0 Refurb. To my surpise, 10.3 came pre-loaded, it came with 1 gig of RAM, and a 8x Superdrive. It may be that I lucked out and they were out of the other parts, but it was certainly a welcome suprise! I couldn't be happier with my refurb purchase.

Do you have any idea how many people are now going to buy a dual-2 refurb and then be disappointed by getting a 512 MB, 4X SuperDrive, OS 10.2 system? I think you were quite lucky, at least on the RAM and SuperDrive.

 

[Rower_CPU]

Do you have any idea how many people are now going to buy a dual-2 refurb and then be disappointed by getting a 512 MB, 4X SuperDrive, OS 10.2 system? I think you were quite lucky, at least on the RAM and SuperDrive.

Refurb machines come with the 10.3 update CD.

 

[numediaman]

The latest from the French:

- G5 Trinity à la WWDC

Les G5 équipés de PPC975 (nom de code: Trinity) seront annoncés à la WWDC et livrable au plus tard à l'Apple Expo. Le PPC975 consomme en moyenne 65W à 3 GHz et intègre 98 millions de transistors. Tous les modèles auront deux emplacement Superdrive et 4 emplacements de disque dur. Côté son, 24-bit 192Khz au moins sur le haut de gamme. Apple proposera avec ATI une carte graphique PCI-express professionnelle du type Fire GL.

Config (susceptible de changer):

Mono PPC 975 à 2,2 GHz
AGP 8x
FSB 1,1 GHz
Superdrive

Dual PPC 975 à 2,6 GHz
PCI-Express 16x
FSB 1,3 GHz
Superdrive Extreme (double couche)

Dual PPC 975 à 3 GHz
PCI-Express 16x
FSB 1,5 GHz
Superdrive Extreme (double couche)

http://croquer.free.fr/​

I don't think you need a translation to understand this. They posted specs for the laptops early, and were correct. Unfortunately, this is not the first time they have speculated about the new G5s -- but I like those specs!

 

[Twonk]

soooooooo fed up with waiting

Sorry but I have to get this off my chest...

<rant>

I need a rev 2 G5 NOW!!!!!

I've been coming to this site every day for the last couple of months looking, hoping, praying for news of a release date. This whole waiting game is getting real tired now. My b/w G3 is seriously creaking.

Perhaps we should start a support group or something? "Frustrated Mac Buyers Anon" or something.......

</rant>

ah that's better...

 

[Dreadnought]

Soo, did they update anything?

 

[Twonk]

oh la la!

I lurve those french specs - particluarly the bit about 2 drive bays for DVD / CD devices (if my french is correct)

Always thought that one large drive bay was a dumb design for a desktop

 

[Zaty]

PPC 975?

Does the PPC 975 exist at all? With the yield problems IBM is having, I can hardly believe they can produce a new CPU out of thin air unless they have been working on it for some time and did not face problems a la 970FX. I don't want to sound to pessimistic but I fear those specs are a bit too good to be true, they're so 2005. What about that FireGL graphics card, do we know anything about its existence?

 

[uv23]

I lurve those french specs - particluarly the bit about 2 drive bays for DVD / CD devices (if my french is correct)

Always thought that one large drive bay was a dumb design for a desktop

I believe it is more likely double-sided DVDs, not two drive bays.

 

[the future]

There is no doubt that the PPC 975 will exist (if that is what IBM will call the Power5 derivative chip), but we don't know how far it's development has come. It is supposed to be on track because it is supposed to be unaffected by the 90 nm problems (as it's supposed to be a 130 nm chip)...

And no, they're not talking about double-sided DVDs, but double-layer DVDs. It's a brand new technology that's coming to the market at this very moment.

If the french site has got it only approximately right, these babies will rock!

 

[uv23]

And no, they're not talking about double-sided DVDs, but double-layer DVDs. It's a brand new technology that's coming to the market at this very moment.

Double layer is actually what I meant to say. Apparently my English is as good as my French.