if there weren't a 4 core BTO i would agree that it opens the possibility to a newer mid range mac ... but with this BTo i think we can forget it for some time
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MP All Models My theory on why Apple announced new Mac Pro today - New mid-tower
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Oh of course its a great little Mac, I am not saying they will add a Low-Mid range Mac but it would be nice for some people.
We will just have to wait and see what they have in store for us, I cant wait.
I highly doubt Apple will release a mid-tower as it would most likely cut into their iMac sales. I might see Apple announcing a revision to the Mac Mini though.
I love the analysts on this thread that say a Mac will never exist. yeah, I said Mac. There's an iMac, there's a Mac mini, there's a Mac Pro, but guess what, there's no "Mac" anymore.
What tickles me the most is the reasoning usually given. I've seen two main reasons. 1) Apple has created the current line and it's worked so it will never be changed. Ever. 2) Creating another product will eat into the sales of the existing products.
Both of these reasons are silly beyond the surface.
1) Apple will change the line or die. They have consistently added products to their line and they will continue to add and remove products in the future. If they don't, eventually nobody will buy their products. What worked last quarter isn't guaranteed to work next quarter. Things change, get over it, move on. It might not happen next week, but you can bet your boots that Apple will eventually fill this gap.
2) Using this logic All we need is the Mac Pro. After all, everything else eats into it's profits. Sounds stupid? You bet it does. Because it is.
I think the time is ripe for a plain old Mac to be added to Apple's line. Frankly, I will be shocked if it doesn't happen.
What tickles me the most is the reasoning usually given. I've seen two main reasons. 1) Apple has created the current line and it's worked so it will never be changed. Ever. 2) Creating another product will eat into the sales of the existing products.
Both of these reasons are silly beyond the surface.
1) Apple will change the line or die. They have consistently added products to their line and they will continue to add and remove products in the future. If they don't, eventually nobody will buy their products. What worked last quarter isn't guaranteed to work next quarter. Things change, get over it, move on. It might not happen next week, but you can bet your boots that Apple will eventually fill this gap.
2) Using this logic All we need is the Mac Pro. After all, everything else eats into it's profits. Sounds stupid? You bet it does. Because it is.
I think the time is ripe for a plain old Mac to be added to Apple's line. Frankly, I will be shocked if it doesn't happen.
Sounds good to me I hope so too, to say the current line up is 100% static and finished is preposterous. (I like that word
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That may be true. It is also true that a large number of consumers feel they *need* more power than they truly do, and will refuse to buy from the low (cheap) end of the line.
And the average user does not have a Facebook profile.
My theory is that Apple's stock price has taken a beating in the past couple of days and they wanted to announce something to retard the slide.
I only doubt it is because there have been no talk of a mid-tower case at all. Rumors or anything.
Otherwise I wish it would happen.
Fixed that for ya!
The whole market is going towards notebooks. Apple knows this - so they have the MacBook (which is a Mini with a screen), and the MackBook Pros.
Most people expect the MacBook Pros are going to get a major revision this time around - and perhaps a new member in their lineup.
And for good reason. Introducing a new computer named simply "Mac" would just cause confusion within the current lineup of Macs: Mac Mini, iMac, Mac Pro, MacBook and MacBook Pro.
Ugh, let's not start that argument again. "Mac" is a general term for an Apple Computer ok?
Let's get back to the Mini-Tower discussion.
I was running the Adobe CS2 suite on a G4 Mac Mini for 18 months - and that was easily up to the task. And the new Intel ones are way faster...
Here in the UK they do. Everybody and their dog seems to have one... but that's just nitpicking at my overall point.
I sometimes wonder if most forum members here on MR are completely out of touch with what most average users do with their computers.
I really don't think that would happen. I imagine there are people out there simply not buying a Mac because there isn't what they want. If anything it'd just sell more Macs overall. With iMacs sales not being greatly affected.
I don't think they wanted to wait this long to update it. They just had to wait for Intel to announce the new processors, and have enough of them on hand to satisfy the initial demand. If that happened back in November, that's when they would have updated. Nothing in this update couldn't have been done in November except the CPU's. Pretty simple if you ask me. No mid-range Mac next week.
Really? The whole market? Care to share some numbers to back that up? (any statistic showing less than 100% of the market is not acceptable)
Different people. Different wants. Different needs. Different uses. I have laptops and desktops. I prefer to use a desktop. I use a laptop when travelling.
All I'm saying is there is a perceived gap in the lineup that just grew wider with the new Mac Pro pricepoint where something else could fit.
The point is there is no machine that fits the description of a plain Mac. There is a "pro", a "mini", and an integrated machine.
Yup. Dells first Notebook servers can't be far off.
There may be a few hold-outs - but they are the kind of user who needs a Mac Pro - not some poxy cut down midi Tower.
Here, here! The gap is real and Apple is being shortsighted if they fail to take advantage of it. Buy a new mid-range upgradable Mac today!
PS. Most analysts are putting laptops at just over 50% of computer sales. This is primarily because of the proliferation of those cheapo PC laptops.
Cheers,
In terms of this entire debate, the problem the elephant in the room is the iMac, and Steve Jobs' obsession with selling a computer that's an all-in-one appliance. He has a disregard for the tweakers and hackers, and wants the flagship attention paid to the iMac.
It's not a view that I have complete sympathy with, if only because people are a little more conscious of environmental concerns, not wishing to trash an all-in-one machine they want to repair or upgrade.
I'd like a headless Mac as well, to run only as a backup and media server; I've had to use a modded G4 733 QS instead. If the Mini was just a little larger and could take internal 3.5" drives, I'd be happy. But I also don't project my wants as being some form of universal desire for a product, nor even as a profitable line for Apple.
It's not a view that I have complete sympathy with, if only because people are a little more conscious of environmental concerns, not wishing to trash an all-in-one machine they want to repair or upgrade.
I'd like a headless Mac as well, to run only as a backup and media server; I've had to use a modded G4 733 QS instead. If the Mini was just a little larger and could take internal 3.5" drives, I'd be happy. But I also don't project my wants as being some form of universal desire for a product, nor even as a profitable line for Apple.
And the avarage photo nut does not need the mac pro.
But the mini is way too inpractical.