Windows New World Game

[Huntn]

New World MMORPG

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Available for preorder on Steam, a new no-**** MMO, New World from Amazon Studio. If you buy it now, you get access to the beta this month and the game goes retail in August. I’m trying to decide if I want to step onto the MMO hamster wheel again. No subscription, a huge plus. Is this on your radar?

New World on Steam

Explore a thrilling, open-world MMO filled with danger and opportunity where you'll forge a new destiny on the supernatural island of Aeternum.

store.steampowered.com

 

[Plutonius]

I’m trying to decide if I want to step onto the MMO hamster wheel again.

Don't do it .

 

[tyc0746]

I pre-ordered it a few months back, but as I saw more of the preview trailers and realised the PvE parts were minimal, I decided to cancel.

 

[maflynn]

I just watched the trailer, this doesn't look like something that I would be willing to play.

 

[Huntn]

I pre-ordered it a few months back, but as I saw more of the preview trailers and realised the PvE parts were minimal, I decided to cancel.

They may have rebalanced that? Not sure. Looking at the trailers, it seems like mostly a dark space with lots of fighting. I found this: https://newworldfans.com/about-new-world-mmo

 

[Huntn]

The game took a strep back last summer as I recall. Closed beta is going on right now. About 8 of my guild mates are playing. I applied, but did not get an invite and in hindsight this maybe good because I’ve burned out on betas in the past.

 

[diamond.g]

The game took a strep back last summer as I recall. Closed beta is going on right now. About 8 of my guild mates are playing. I applied, but did not get an invite and in hindsight this maybe good because I’ve burned out on betas in the past.

I am kind of surprised no one has any commentary on this game destroying (some) GPU’s.

 

[erayser]

I am kind of surprised no one has any commentary on this game destroying (some) GPU’s.

Probably because not very many people own RTX 3090's, which is the GPU that's most reported of dying. JayzTwoCents mentioned that people reporting to him that AMD 6000 series and lower RTX 30 series cards are dying too... but not as much as 3090 owners. I own a 3090, but I'm not a fan of open world mmo games... so never had any desire to play this game... even before it was reported killing GPU's.

 

[Huntn]

Well, it's been out for a short while. I'm not playing it. I've read the reviews at Steam which are mixed. Some have to do with long queues, others have to do with the questing and overall game atmosphere.

For myself, I just can't get myself into MMO Mode otherwise known as the Hamster Wheel. Some reports call it grindy and uninspired quests. I'm just not up for kill and collect. Most of the quests I'm doing in Greedfall have to do with story lines and conflict between the natives and the colonials which I find very interesting, and I know there are not another 1000 players doing the same thing.

Yes, playing with friends can be fun, but I've read the quest chains are non existent or different players get different quests, or you can't control starting areas, so it makes it hard to team up with others. And I'm having some real engagement in my solo RPGs, GreedFall, where I don't feel I'm in a world polluted with players, and it feels like I'm reaching a resolution so I can move on, intead of endless end game fillers.

 

[diamond.g]

The game still seems to be nuking 30-Series cards too (according to TomsHardware).

 

[maflynn]

I'll avoid the game

 

[diamond.g]

I'll avoid the game

Jay2Cents says turning the power limit down to 50% (MSI Afterburner) if playing at 4K helps. It seems the problem only happens when selecting 4K.

 

[maflynn]

Jay2Cents says turning the power limit down to 50% (MSI Afterburner) if playing at 4K helps. It seems the problem only happens when selecting 4K.

Yeah, I'm watching is latest video and he's zeroing in on how to avoid damaging your GPU

 

[Huntn]

I’ve been observing my Grandson play this. The graphics are 100x better than WoW, great environmental atmosphere, not slamming WoW, but the gameplay feels just like WoW, kill and collect, voluntary PVP unless your guild owns a town and another faction declares war on you. That is different, but I can’t say it is going to be a routine with staying power. Who knows, maybe… There are dungeons too. How long before players get bored fighting over towns? You don’t even have cool tanks to shoot at each other with (See Planetside ref).

It seems like there can be a lot of time spent on defending territory…if you want too. There are factions and there are companies (guilds). Companies belong to factions, if I understand it correctly, guilds take over towns, possibly with the help of their faction. If you own a town it does not keep anyone out, you can be any faction and walk into a town owned by another guild/faction and not be attacked. However there is monetary advantages to town/territory ownership like taxes that help the owners beef up the town with defenses. Now beyond that, I don’t know what other advantages there are to town ownership to the guild, or to the faction. It might just be the status of seeing the map the color of your faction? Upgraded towns do have upgraded crafting stations and I think anyone can use them, but you pay taxes to do so? Not sure. ?

At this stage in my gaming life, I see no attraction to getting on this mouse wheel. I played Planetside for over a year, the constant quest to control territory, and had a great time, but eventually burned out. Tried it again early this year and the bloom was off the rose. These days I have a much better time enjoying solo RPGs, take my time, deal with issues, not be overrun with a thousand tourists in Westworld. Solo RPGs can actually feel profound. Now MMORPGS feel to me, more like theme parks.

Making Your Mark on Aeternum: Settlements and Governance

Staking a claim and working together as a community is a critical step on the path to dominance in New World. Aeternum is divided into distinct Territories, many of which have their own Settlement and Fort.

www.newworld.com

New World: Town Projects Explained

If you want to level quickly, get into crafting, or are invested in PvP, you'll want to complete as many Town Projects as possible.

www.thegamer.com

 

[Huntn]

I am kind of surprised no one has any commentary on this game destroying (some) GPU’s.

Probably because not very many people own RTX 3090's, which is the GPU that's most reported of dying. JayzTwoCents mentioned that people reporting to him that AMD 6000 series and lower RTX 30 series cards are dying too... but not as much as 3090 owners. I own a 3090, but I'm not a fan of open world mmo games... so never had any desire to play this game... even before it was reported killing GPU's.

I find that rather shocking. I wonder if settings can be adjusted to avoid it, and what settings those would be? ?

 

[maflynn]

I find that rather shocking. I wonder if settings can be adjusted to avoid it, and what settings those would be? ?

You need to lower the power limit of your GPU via the MSI Afterburner app.

JayzTwoCents shows a GPU pulling in nearly 400 watts on a GPU - which is crazy. I get that these high end GPU pull in a lot of power but his video is interesting.

I'm ok with avoiding this game, my GPU while not new (RTX 2060) I'd rather not risk damaging my GPU

 

[diamond.g]

You need to lower the power limit of your GPU via the MSI Afterburner app.

JayzTwoCents shows a GPU pulling in nearly 400 watts on a GPU - which is crazy. I get that these high end GPU pull in a lot of power but his video is interesting.

I'm ok with avoiding this game, my GPU while not new (RTX 2060) I'd rather not risk damaging my GPU

It also appears to be a bug in the 4K resolution as well. Jay2Cents said the consumption wasn't that high when playing in 1440p.

 

[Huntn]

You need to lower the power limit of your GPU via the MSI Afterburner app.

JayzTwoCents shows a GPU pulling in nearly 400 watts on a GPU - which is crazy. I get that these high end GPU pull in a lot of power but his video is interesting.

I'm ok with avoiding this game, my GPU while not new (RTX 2060) I'd rather not risk damaging my GPU

My grandson researched it and decided that limiting frames to 60fps was the answer to cool things down. At least that is what he said. With all the money invested in these cards, I’d think they have an over heat warning or better yet an overheat auto-emergency mode.

 

[diamond.g]

My grandson researched it and decided that limiting frames to 60fps was the answer to cool things down. At least that is what he said. With all the money invested in these cards, I’d think they have an over heat warning or better yet an overheat auto-emergency mode.

It isn't overheating per se. It is more of a power draw issue. If the power supplying components aren't up to snuff you can pull more power than they are rated for before over current protection kicks in and that is what kills the card.

 

[maflynn]

I’d think they have an over heat warning or better yet an overheat auto-emergency mode.

Two things, first its not overheating, its pulling so much power that its some of the solder joints or components cannot handle and blow. Secondly, no game, especially from a publisher that's trying to establish itself would ever issue a warning that if you don't set your GPU a certain way it will damage it.

In fact Amazon was quick to blame the GPU card makers when the game was in beta, I'm not sure what their response is for the early reports of GPU failures on the launch of the game. I don't know if these failures are continuing or just a rash of issues on launch. Personally, its not a game that I'm willing to take a chance - granted my card is probably old enough that it may not push it over the edge - but the keyword is "probably" That's not something I'm willing to risk

 

[diamond.g]

Two things, first its not overheating, its pulling so much power that its some of the solder joints or components cannot handle and blow. Secondly, no game, especially from a publisher that's trying to establish itself would ever issue a warning that if you don't set your GPU a certain way it will damage it.

In fact Amazon was quick to blame the GPU card makers when the game was in beta, I'm not sure what their response is for the early reports of GPU failures on the launch of the game. I don't know if these failures are continuing or just a rash of issues on launch. Personally, its not a game that I'm willing to take a chance - granted my card is probably old enough that it may not push it over the edge - but the keyword is "probably" That's not something I'm willing to risk

If you don't play at 4K it most likely isn't an issue.

 

[maflynn]

If you don't play at 4K it most likely isn't an issue.

"Most likely" That's not enough to assuage any fears - especially given the state of the the GPU market, I have little to no chance of replacing my RTX 2060 super and even if I were able to get an identical one, it most likely will cost me 2x what its worth in 2021

 

[diamond.g]

"Most likely" That's not enough to assuage any fears - especially given the state of the the GPU market, I have little to no chance of replacing my RTX 2060 super and even if I were able to get an identical one, it most likely will cost me 2x what its worth in 2021

That is fair. I haven't been keeping up with the New World reddit page so I am not sure if the problem is just 30 series cards or if it affect 20 series as well (and AMD cards).

 

[maflynn]

t affect 20 series as well (and AMD cards).

Truth be told, I'm sure its mostly 30x but until we hear from amazon on what the cause it, i'm not taking any chances. i also don't think we'll ever hear from amazon, they may identify the cause and quietly patch it, but they'll never take full responsibility as that means they'll be open to lawsuits

 

[Huntn]

It isn't overheating per se. It is more of a power draw issue. If the power supplying components aren't up to snuff you can pull more power than they are rated for before over current protection kicks in and that is what kills the card.

Two things, first its not overheating, its pulling so much power that its some of the solder joints or components cannot handle and blow. Secondly, no game, especially from a publisher that's trying to establish itself would ever issue a warning that if you don't set your GPU a certain way it will damage it.

In fact Amazon was quick to blame the GPU card makers when the game was in beta, I'm not sure what their response is for the early reports of GPU failures on the launch of the game. I don't know if these failures are continuing or just a rash of issues on launch. Personally, its not a game that I'm willing to take a chance - granted my card is probably old enough that it may not push it over the edge - but the keyword is "probably" That's not something I'm willing to risk

If you don't play at 4K it most likely isn't an issue.

I just assumed it was a heat issue. I’m not an engineer so what follows is mostly speculation, maybe ignorant speculation.

If solder on the graphic card is melting I’d assume this is heat issue, but I’m not arguing here, just explaining why I thought it was a temperature issue. ? I’m not playing this game, just asking some questions. I have a free utility on my PC that tells me at what temperature my 2070 card is functioning at. I’ll assume this would not allow adequately monitor of the issue?

Is this a new kind of an issue or has it existed before this? If it’s an issue with the powerful supply not being powerful enough, although we know what they are rated at, and that the draw on the card is rated at.

So something is causing these cards to try to draw more power than is available, or more power than they should be drawing? I would presume to make an analogy (maybe not accurate) in a home circuit, of a wire being too small say 15 amp, where you are running a dryer that needs a 30 amp circuit. The wire will overheat and ideally trip the circuit breaker.

I wonder what the specific reason Amazon could blame GPU makers, as in what flaw in their manufacturing process causes this? And what is it about New World that makes it different to cause this? Looking at NW, it’s graphics are impressive.

I would still imagine ideally with a power draw issue, the card might still have some kind of circuitry that sees an issue and does something like auto reduces the resolution it is producing or throws up a warning before your card melts.