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Photoshop CS2 Leak
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They'll probably release it next week.
Also, I'm thinking that Adobe Streamline (which has not been updated for several years, and apparently isn't OS X native ) will be discontinued, as TS originally reported earlier that a future release of Illustrator would include Streamline style features.
Also, I'm thinking that Adobe Streamline (which has not been updated for several years, and apparently isn't OS X native ) will be discontinued, as TS originally reported earlier that a future release of Illustrator would include Streamline style features.
No competition
The main issue here is that there is no serious competition any more, so there is little need to innovate beyond upgrade sales - that's never going to lead to real innovation unfortunately.
The only competitor is Macromedia - we use Fireworks for all our web design layouts now, and hardly ever need PS (although we own it as part of the CS suite). The problem is they are both good at different things - PS is a nightmare for object-oriented stuff, and Fireworks lacks the heavyweight image editing tools. Sadly, both are made by companies who focus on x-platform issue first and foremost (note Macromedia's use of the crappy Opera rendering engine in Dreamweaver instead of using WebKit). And as Macromedia's s/w is far from reliable, Adobe have an effective monopoly.
And we all know where monopolies lead...
Someone needs to stir up this space a little - an Omni-like developer who uses Mac technologies like CI to do something innovative and special. Here's hoping.
The main issue here is that there is no serious competition any more, so there is little need to innovate beyond upgrade sales - that's never going to lead to real innovation unfortunately.
The only competitor is Macromedia - we use Fireworks for all our web design layouts now, and hardly ever need PS (although we own it as part of the CS suite). The problem is they are both good at different things - PS is a nightmare for object-oriented stuff, and Fireworks lacks the heavyweight image editing tools. Sadly, both are made by companies who focus on x-platform issue first and foremost (note Macromedia's use of the crappy Opera rendering engine in Dreamweaver instead of using WebKit). And as Macromedia's s/w is far from reliable, Adobe have an effective monopoly.
And we all know where monopolies lead...
Someone needs to stir up this space a little - an Omni-like developer who uses Mac technologies like CI to do something innovative and special. Here's hoping.
Live Picture
I understand that Live Picture had many features that professionals would appreciate and current Photoshop still lacks; speed, resolution independent brushes and gradients, image distortion, large file manipulation (FITS), multiple size outputs, etc. I wish I had a chance to be familiar with the software, which has been dead for years. I read somewhere that it had some quirks, but I wonder why it simply lost to Photoshop. I don't think marketing alone made the difference. Anyway, I hope a new developer will take on Photoshop, too.
mkwilson68 said:
I understand that Live Picture had many features that professionals would appreciate and current Photoshop still lacks; speed, resolution independent brushes and gradients, image distortion, large file manipulation (FITS), multiple size outputs, etc. I wish I had a chance to be familiar with the software, which has been dead for years. I read somewhere that it had some quirks, but I wonder why it simply lost to Photoshop. I don't think marketing alone made the difference. Anyway, I hope a new developer will take on Photoshop, too.
Tiger is not being sold
Not surprising at all.
Not only would it violate the NDA that covers the Adobe copies of Tiger, but 10.4 could change at the last minute and cause an incompatibility.
It would be rather irresponsible for Adobe to claim compatibility with a product that isn't shipping, hasn't been finished, and doesn't even have an announced availability date.
wdlove said:
Not surprising at all.
Not only would it violate the NDA that covers the Adobe copies of Tiger, but 10.4 could change at the last minute and cause an incompatibility.
It would be rather irresponsible for Adobe to claim compatibility with a product that isn't shipping, hasn't been finished, and doesn't even have an announced availability date.
mchendricks said:
That sort of helps. What I was really trying to debate was how much more it would cost to upgrade from CS to CS2, if I were to get CS now, and they'll be releasing 2 in a couple of months. I mean edu version is around 400usd, but who knows how much it'd be to upgrade? I thought I read 199, but isn't that just upgrade from CS?
But seriously, to finally get serious about my line of work and get legal software would be awesome. Thank god for edu pricing.
They need Photoshop LS: Less ******
Come on, these guys didn't even support 16-bit files until what, last year? And it was version 7 before added a thumbnail browser, which is inferior to what shareware programs offered in the mid '90s.
And then there's the continuing lack of a "paste as new image" function, no right-clicking to zoom out, blah blah blah.
And the pathetic UI. It looked like they finally abandoned the hated floating windows, but NOPE: drag the main window, and the palettes all get left behind.
Unbelievable.
Come on, these guys didn't even support 16-bit files until what, last year? And it was version 7 before added a thumbnail browser, which is inferior to what shareware programs offered in the mid '90s.
And then there's the continuing lack of a "paste as new image" function, no right-clicking to zoom out, blah blah blah.
And the pathetic UI. It looked like they finally abandoned the hated floating windows, but NOPE: drag the main window, and the palettes all get left behind.
Unbelievable.
FrancisSawyer said:
looks like i got to this thread late and wasnt going to post until i read the above statement.
ive used photoshop for more than twenty years. its very good and served the industry well. lets give credit where its due.
i would like to see major improvements or a different solution just for shites and giggles. however your last statement....well thats a work flow preference. i wouldnt want my palettes to move with the window. if PS did that i would say it sucked.
beatle888 said:
Considering Photoshop 1.0 was released in February 1990, excuse me if I find that claim a little far-fetched.
Blue Velvet said:
oh.
not trying to make false claims. i THOUGHT remembered being twenty two when i convinced the art department to go with computers instead of the traditional paste up/film stripping and stat camera routine.lets see....what was it then...i GUESS (again) 3.0 or 4.0.
but still. let me just say that since layers nothing really shocking has happened. i remember i wouldnt even go near the layer effects cause i thought it a weakness since you could get the same and more custom results using channels and all. the channel mixer is super cool though.
anyway. my point is that no one really needs to upgrade. they just try to make things easier to do most of the time. and on rare occasion they add a must have to keep up with the industry.
i wonder if it's time to upgrade from PS5.0, Ill 7.0 and pagemucker 6.5?sw1tcher said:
PS1.0? man, that was sooo long ago. i remember 3.0 as being such a leap. can't wait to get ps cs 2....
Blue Velvet said:
The good old days.
SuperPaint vs. PhotoShop
I believe I still have a copy of PSv1 and SPv3 some place around here.
I can honestly claim to have used MacPaint and MacWrite quite a lot, definitely was no Photoshop around then. Kind of dates me though...I'd say middle to late Triassic period...
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