I feel pretty confident that the stock app doesn't run in the background unless you launch it, and it doesn't refresh any info when it is not running.
By all means, please let me know if you have evidence to the contrary.
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Possible to delete Stocks and Home apps?
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I feel pretty confident that the stock app doesn't run in the background unless you launch it, and it doesn't refresh any info when it is not running.
By all means, please let me know if you have evidence to the contrary.
Merry Christmas.
I am surprised so many are defending something so personal. If somebody wants to delete a bunch of apps they don't use why not? Why defend the need for Chess or any other app that the other 10 people in the world use?
Now that I think about it, it would be great if I could shrink my application list to only those that I actually use. I wonder what the reason is they imbed these apps in the OS? I really don't think Chess is an integral part of anything.
Apps like Chess, Solitaire, Cards, ext. are outdated. For me those were the kind of apps you used to kill time. Now we browse the internet. Really doesn't matter if they are 1mb or a 100mb, times change.
Now that I think about it, it would be great if I could shrink my application list to only those that I actually use. I wonder what the reason is they imbed these apps in the OS? I really don't think Chess is an integral part of anything.
Apps like Chess, Solitaire, Cards, ext. are outdated. For me those were the kind of apps you used to kill time. Now we browse the internet. Really doesn't matter if they are 1mb or a 100mb, times change.
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This is like worrying about global warming. The sum of what you do is totally irrelevant as there are things a billion times larger which are more of an issue so don't worry about it. The same with these apps taking a few MB. The OS is GBs in size so a few apps being MBs in size don't matter. Chill out and have a beer instead of worrying about it on here.
The first thing I do with all my new installs is delete everything I will never use.
Chess.app
FaceTime.app
Messages.app
Notes.app
PhotoBooth.app
Photos.app
Siri.app
Stickies.app
iBooks
Stocks
Home
Game Center, and maybe others I can't remember
I use Terminal and the command "sudo rm -rf" followed by a space and then drag and drop the file from the Finder.
I do have Sip disabled, this allows me to run the newer Operating sysytems on my old Classic MacPro.
I have never experienced any issues after deleting these apps.
My reason for doing this is "because I can"
sound easy! to my it shows
rm: illegal option -- /
usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRrvW] file ...
unlink file
Why make Stocks a built in, undeletable app? Maybe APPL has some ulterior motive we don't know about!
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Oh, they're SMALL, well-formed code! Well in that case we SHOULDN'T be allowed to delete them even though we didn't ask for them and don't want them!</snark>
Seriously, though, that's totally your choice to like bloatware, but telling people that their opinions are wrong and they should stop having them... Is that how you like to be talked to when YOU have a concern?
[doublepost=1549305752][/doublepost]Disabled SIP and still can't RM this crapware. Welcome to Windows 11 Mojave. If I weren't reliant on Adobe I'd stick with Ubuntu. Any thoughts on getting rid of this blightware?
[doublepost=1549306154][/doublepost]I still can't delete this garbage, but Right-Click > Show Package Contents > cmd+delete the guts of it might make you feel better. Revel in your tiny kingdom of control!
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Oh, they're SMALL, well-formed code! Well in that case we SHOULDN'T be allowed to delete them even though we didn't ask for them and don't want them!</snark>
Seriously, though, that's totally your choice to like bloatware, but telling people that their opinions are wrong and they should stop having them... Is that how you like to be talked to when YOU have a concern?
[doublepost=1549305752][/doublepost]Disabled SIP and still can't RM this crapware. Welcome to Windows 11 Mojave. If I weren't reliant on Adobe I'd stick with Ubuntu. Any thoughts on getting rid of this blightware?
[doublepost=1549306154][/doublepost]I still can't delete this garbage, but Right-Click > Show Package Contents > cmd+delete the guts of it might make you feel better. Revel in your tiny kingdom of control!
The term 'bloatware' is subjective, one man's trash is another man's treasure. I consider both the News app and Stocks app to be bloatware and are apps that I would never use. Given that these apps are not important to the functionality of the operating system, they are not vital apps and, as such, should not be protected by SIP.
One of the main features of a good OS, in my opinion, is to make non-vital items optional. Some people will remove a non-vital item while others will consider non-vital items to be important. User friendliness includes being able to make the system 'our own personal space'. And, when non-vital items are made difficult to remove, it can be seen as the items being forced on the user and that detracts from the ability to 'make the system mine'.
Space is space, whether it be 1 megabyte or 1 gigabyte, and that space on my machines is, in my opinion, mine and I should be able to do with it as I please.
Just my $0.02.
Sadly, this isn't about creating a good OS for us to frolic in, it's about that little Stocks app. Why is it SO important to APPL that Stocks is on our computer? Because stocks is all they are now. It's about Wall Street. It's about providing us the least amount of freedom in order to gain the most economic return for their stakeholders. Running Linux in a dual-boot setup really wasn't all that difficult for me. I recommend trying it out. Not perfect, but actually quite good.
I delete all these unwanted apps first thing on a new installation, has never caused me any issues.
Check out my post #19 in this thread for the method I use.
I feel this is an unhealthy assumption. Apple could be doing a lot more to increase their return and remove our freedom but I just don't see Apple moving in that direction.
Yes, Linux is quite nice.. I've been using both Linux and BSD since 2001. One of the reasons I moved to OS X was because it is based on BSD (Darwin).
My case exactly, I disliked MS Windows immensely so I experimented with LInux. But I wasn't up to all the tweaking Linux needed to get things right, there always seemed to be something not quite right, so I tried Apple and have never looked back.
I hope I don't sound argumentative, but is it a healthy assumption that any corporation has one byte of interest in us having options that aren't them? I probably sound dramatic, but that's honestly just my matter-of-fact face. It's just not in their programming. As for whether Apple is moving in "that" direction or not, I refer you to... this thread.
Stocks app is a fundamental part of the OS which couldn’t work without it. The reason for that is highly technical so shouldn’t be discussed on MR. suffice it to say that without Stocks then macOS doesn’t exist. It’d be like car with three wheels. That’s the real reason stocks can’t be deleted. Anyway, time to move on folks as this thread is closed.
what? just typing something on a forum doesn't make it true. the OS will most-certainly function without chess, or stocks, for example. and one of the great things about this forum is that it can get 'highly technical'. also, a thread isn't closed until moderators close it (perhaps we're headed there soon
)Wait, what? Are you kidding me right now? The kernel, the GUI, the networking service - those are fundamental for the OS to work. Bring the "highly technical" reason you're referencing in your post...
Against my preference, I had to install Mojave on one of my Macs.
And apparently to punish me for having avoided this OS until now, I'm being annoyed to a slow insanity with the Home and News app windows popping up from time to time... I've never opened thee useless apps, and I've disabled these apps in System Preferences/Notification by unchecking all the options and selecting "None" for the news alerts style. And yet they persist on popping up to reaffirm why I avoided Mojave.
Please please please let me know how to stop this insanity.
TIA
And apparently to punish me for having avoided this OS until now, I'm being annoyed to a slow insanity with the Home and News app windows popping up from time to time... I've never opened thee useless apps, and I've disabled these apps in System Preferences/Notification by unchecking all the options and selecting "None" for the news alerts style. And yet they persist on popping up to reaffirm why I avoided Mojave.
Please please please let me know how to stop this insanity.
TIA
in a Terminal window, type
"sudo rm -rf", followed by 1 space and minus the quotes.
then from Finder drag the app to be deleted to complete the command and press enter
enter password if prompted
Sorry I forgot to mention that SIP needs to be disabled to accomplish the removal.
Once they're removed, SIP can be enabled again.
...and I've deleted those apps before. Then I started looking around in the filesystem. In /System, there is an IOSSupport folder. In this folder are all the support files for these new style of apps. I wouldn't care to know what would happen if I deleted this folder, because it would probably cause me to have to do a clean install of Mojave. So, I update-installed Mojave to 10.14.2 and updated to 10.14.5 and I'm just going to ignore those apps.
i know this is kind of a old thread, but there is a very legitimate reason for me to remove the Stocks app.
i run the german version of macOS and if i want to bring up the "Activity Monitor" on german called "Aktivitätsanzeige" and i type "akt" in spotlight the first result will always be "Aktien" - which is the Stock app.
"thanks apple, i hate it"
so while writing this, i just realized i can exclude stuff from spotlight, but at the first look it seems you can only choose folders and not applications. but i managed to drag the stocks app into the spotlight privacy section and now its ignored by spotlight and i have my peace again
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this led to some weird behavior in spotlight, if i type "ak" it shows the "Aktivitätsanzeige" (Activity Monitor) but if i type "akti" it finds the Stocks app again and puts it on top of the search results, interesting, because the app is now named "Stocks" and not "Aktien" like its named in the german version! but if i search for "Stocks" i dont get any search results
i run the german version of macOS and if i want to bring up the "Activity Monitor" on german called "Aktivitätsanzeige" and i type "akt" in spotlight the first result will always be "Aktien" - which is the Stock app.
"thanks apple, i hate it"
so while writing this, i just realized i can exclude stuff from spotlight, but at the first look it seems you can only choose folders and not applications. but i managed to drag the stocks app into the spotlight privacy section and now its ignored by spotlight and i have my peace again
edit:
this led to some weird behavior in spotlight, if i type "ak" it shows the "Aktivitätsanzeige" (Activity Monitor) but if i type "akti" it finds the Stocks app again and puts it on top of the search results, interesting, because the app is now named "Stocks" and not "Aktien" like its named in the german version! but if i search for "Stocks" i dont get any search results
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#!/bin/bash
# IMPORTANT: You will need to disable SIP aka Rootless in order to fully execute this script, you can reenable it after.
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Home.app
echo "[OK] Home"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Dashboard.app
echo "[OK] Dashboard.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/FaceTime.app
echo "[OK] FaceTime.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/News.app
echo "[OK] News.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Messages.app
echo "[OK] Messages.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Siri.app
echo "[OK] Siri.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Photos.app
echo "[OK] Photos.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Stocks.app
echo "[OK] Stocks.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/VoiceMemos.app
echo "[OK] VoiceMemos.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Stickies.app
echo "[OK] Stickies.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Maps.app
echo "[OK] Maps.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Photo\ Booth.app
echo "[OK] Photos.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/QuickTime\ Player.app
echo "[OK] QuickTime"
# IMPORTANT: You will need to disable SIP aka Rootless in order to fully execute this script, you can reenable it after.
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Home.app
echo "[OK] Home"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Dashboard.app
echo "[OK] Dashboard.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/FaceTime.app
echo "[OK] FaceTime.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/News.app
echo "[OK] News.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Messages.app
echo "[OK] Messages.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Siri.app
echo "[OK] Siri.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Photos.app
echo "[OK] Photos.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Stocks.app
echo "[OK] Stocks.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/VoiceMemos.app
echo "[OK] VoiceMemos.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Stickies.app
echo "[OK] Stickies.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Maps.app
echo "[OK] Maps.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/Photo\ Booth.app
echo "[OK] Photos.app"
sudo rm -rf /Applications/QuickTime\ Player.app
echo "[OK] QuickTime"
Ya, expect Apple doesn't do things for the user, it does things it thinks is right by them. Mac's may catch up, but if it happens for one device, then that will always be a claim you can do it on others.. Will they ? maybe, maybe not.
Half of the time i dunno why Apple does things which doesn't make logical sense, except the only reason could be its tightly ingratiated into the OS which could break other things, if removed.. That's probably why its protected by SIP, but the real bummer if you couldn't remove it "at all" even if SIP was disabled...
They haven't gone that far yet luckily. and hopefully they never will.