I much prefer Leopard WebKit for most stuff cause it just feels faster, I tend to only fall back to InterWebPPC if the site I'm going for doesn't work
lwk doesnt just feel faster, it is much faster, especially on slow machines like g4's. and as a bonus you can relink a lot of old apps & webkit based browsers against it to make them work again on the modern webI much prefer Leopard WebKit for most stuff cause it just feels faster, I tend to only fall back to InterWebPPC if the site I'm going for doesn't work
there is a single layer leopard iso on the macintosh garden site. just make sure to deselect all the extra options like "printer drivers" and "language translations" as removing those from the iso is what allowed them to fit it in a single layer dvd sizeRunning a bit out of space, so some of my PPC machines are sort of in semi permanent storage...
Gotta get them out once, every other month or so, give them a lookover (no leaking batteries os stuff like that) and start them up, making sure all the moving parts still move
Did just that this afternoon...
Whipped out the iMac G4 and the PowerPC G5 with Apple Cinema Display...
Wanted to take advantage of getting Leopard on the G5, but hitting a brick wall tring to boot from the USB Leopard installer.
Tried through Open Firmware and everything but no dice. Simply won't boot from the USB.
Looks like the USB thumbdrive is correctly loaded though, as when I insert it (while running Tiger) it immediately pops up the Leopard DVD installer window.
No empty Dual Layer DVD's lying around, so can't burn the DVD installer either.
So, as I was running out of time, for now postponed to the next time I take it out....
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Unless the sites use latest TLS like Wikipedia for example.you can relink a lot of old apps & webkit based browsers against it to make them work again on the modern web
all you have to do is run a proxy server like squids or webone on another machine. even just a little raspberry pi zero or some other low powered device is more than fast enough for thisUnless the sites use latest TLS like Wikipedia for example.
Given the months of man hours I've put into PowerPC tinkering, I don't think I can be accused of being lazy regarding workarounds but I have to draw the line at running a local proxy on another machine (or investing in another Quad to run on same machine.)all you have to do is run a proxy server like squids or webone on another machine. even just a little raspberry pi zero or some other low powered device is more than fast enough for this
raspberry pi zero is only $5 brand new, i'd say that price is worth it to get your web browser running properly. or just run it on some other old machine, i would imagine most of us here on the powerpc forums most likely have more than just a single machine lying aroundGiven the months of man hours I've put into PowerPC tinkering, I don't think I can be accused of being lazy regarding workarounds but I have to draw the line at running a local proxy on another machine (or investing in another Quad to run on same machine.)
Yes, I've got lots of donor machines but that's not my point - I'm reluctant to outsource the problem to other devices - I see that as cheating, I prefer a workaround that's self contained and can be shared.raspberry pi zero is only $5 brand new, i'd say that price is worth it to get your web browser running properly. or just run it on some other old machine, i would imagine most of us here on the powerpc forums most likely have more than just a single machine lying around
i see, well in that case maybe you can compile webone with macports and run it locally (since squids proxy on ppc seems to be unstable)Yes, I've got lots of donor machines but that's not my point - I'm reluctant to outsource the problem to other devices - I see that as cheating, I prefer a workaround that's self contained and can be shared.
Obviously I have no problem if the proxy is server side like some Youtube solutions and the Opera mini browser.
It's immaterial as a PowerPC man does not live by WebKit alonei see, well in that case maybe you can compile webone with macports and run it locally (since squids proxy on ppc seems to be unstable)
From the planet Jeif-Or in the Altivec system...."PowerPC Man"
oh my god! what a beautiful thing!Beside my non working and modded 20" iMac G4 I found on a local online selling page the holy grail itself. A boxed 20" iMac G4 in pristine condition, running Leopard and everything is working fine! Sadly the upper part of the styrofoam is missing so it's very fragile for transport and storage.
Next step is to upgrade RAM and to 10.5.9 Sorbet Leopard. Maybe I'm also upgrading to a SSD but I'm not sure as the original HDD is running very quiet and it's still very fast.
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I much prefer Leopard WebKit for most stuff cause it just feels faster, I tend to only fall back to InterWebPPC if the site I'm going for doesn't work
Ah, but can you customize LWK?lwk doesnt just feel faster, it is much faster, especially on slow machines like g4's. and as a bonus you can relink a lot of old apps & webkit based browsers against it to make them work again on the modern web
i understand, but i personally prefer it to fit in with the os x style anyways, which lwk does since it just looks like safari. so its the best option for meAh, but can you customize LWK?
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I think not.
Some people (me) value customization over speed. Things like uMatrix help to even the score.
Everyone is different. I spend up to 15 hours or more in front of a computer every day, and quite a lot of that time is in a web browser. So, my preference is something I can customize to my tastes. We're discussing web browsers at the moment but this also applies to the OS.i understand, but i personally prefer it to fit in with the os x style anyways, which lwk does since it just looks like safari. so its the best option for me
Mixed setup!
First three are Motorola 68000 models, the others PPC...
From left to right;
Only the Cube is not cooperating, won't boot properly, it's a finicky device for sure...
- Macintosh portable
- Macintosh SE
- PowerBook Duo 230
- iBook G4
- PowerBook G4
- Cube G4
- iMac G4
- Powermac Dual G5
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Dual Core 2.3 GHz Powermac G5, 30" Apple Studio Display, SoundSticks audio system.
This computer was a local classified rescue/find. It cleaned up very nicely. I completely disassembled the computer, cleaned everything thoroughly, replaced thermal paste on Northbridge, CPU, and GPU, new PRAM battery, and performed thermal calibration. Computer looks and runs just like a new. It is very quiet, I can barely tell its on, even under a full load. For a 17 year old computer, the performance is amazing, and the system is rock solid. It has never crashed.
Thank you for all the hard work from the community to create Sorbet Leopard and a modern web browser and email client to keep these computers going in 2022.
pretty amazing how the G5 tower still looks better then any pro desktop computer Apple has come out with since. I had a Dual G5 and and it was a work of art, balancing function and form. A shame Apple can't do that anymore.View attachment 2026681
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Dual Core 2.3 GHz Powermac G5, 30" Apple Studio Display, SoundSticks audio system.
This computer was a local classified rescue/find. It cleaned up very nicely. I completely disassembled the computer, cleaned everything thoroughly, replaced thermal paste on Northbridge, CPU, and GPU, new PRAM battery, and performed thermal calibration. Computer looks and runs just like a new. It is very quiet, I can barely tell its on, even under a full load. For a 17 year old computer, the performance is amazing, and the system is rock solid. It has never crashed.
Thank you for all the hard work from the community to create Sorbet Leopard and a modern web browser and email client to keep these computers going in 2022.