But maybe there is more that we will discover once installed… They sure didn't mention it very much… I will likely install DB1 to see…
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Pretty disappointed we didnt see more updates to Stage Manager…
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They mentioned something about improving the windowing. I really really hope they have! It’s the only thing I hate about the modern iPad.
The more "customization" of the windows is nice. I can't wait for the vids to start dropping. I am disappointed that we did not get clamshell mode as it was leaked to be part of iPadOS 17.
I'm hoping its hidden in iPadOS 17 and they just decided not to mention it.
I'm hoping its hidden in iPadOS 17 and they just decided not to mention it.
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Yeah, it's plenty of stuff that missed the list. More control over the audio source when plugged into a monitor... but I'm anxious to experience this new windowing system for Stage Manager.
But across the board was underwhelming with all the preexisting operating systems. I think all their resources and effort went into the headset unfortunately.
Unfortunately not yet. Dev portal down at the moment.
If you look at the animation on the iPadOS 17 Preview page, it looks like they might have removed the snapping window sizes, meaning fluid size adjustments and positioning!
Yeah, it’s a difference. Not a crazy difference, but its there.
Lockscreen customization is kind of broken... only a select few widgets work. They changed the way notification are shown… its similar to that of iOS as in they appear from the bottom. Meanwhile few apps have been tweaked a bit… Music, Mail and Messages, but nothing drastic.
In the Music app can you now order Albums by Release Date in the Album view? It was something missing for years that classic iOS had.
Unfortunately, no. Only list Title, Recently Added and Artist.
Stage manger seems smoother and the windows basically resize or position however you want… thats pretty much it…
Stage manager window placement is definitely improved, especially with Display Zoom set to More Space, can actually have 4 apps open with zero overlap. Far less snapping into place, most window placements stay exactly where you leave it. SM moving in the right direction! I’m very pleased this was already prioritized in iPadOS 17. My guess as to why it wasn’t mentioned in depth at WWDC is because SM was widely panned by critics, and Apple possibly wanted to downplay expectations with the improvements made to it. As someone who was critical of SM at launch, I’m very pleased with this update, and this is only the first beta, more refinements to come.
there’s still snapping in the window size, which will likely always be the case. At least until even the base iPads have M1 chips in them 5 years from now and iPadOS can do a total redesign. The only way they can have windowed apps work right out of the box is to have the preset sizes built in.
Apps that support auto layout should be able to adjust freely. Apple demoed in their previous WWDC sessions how Documents app on iPadOS can freely adjust window size even without the obnoxious blur on ARM macOS, whereas iPadOS applies a blur and is limited, they even said as such.
Honestly, apps not constrained to aspect ratios should be resizable without preset sizes imo. And get rid of the blur too.
Also, if you have one window open, can you actually move it freely instead of being locked down to the centre?
Anything new related to audio with these updates to stage manager? Possible to choose iPad instead of a monitor?
This is the biggie for me. I opened a bug about it. Makes 0 sense to not allow a Picture In Picture window on 1 side and an app on the other.
Can confirm, you can have a PiP video wherever you want & a single app wherever you want. YES!
