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Sapphire's Durability Put to the Test Head-to-Head Against Gorilla Glass
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I don't care. As I've posted elsewhere, the selling point for me buying the iPhone 5s versus competing products was the fingerprint sensor. I put a plastic cover on my phone so there are no scratches. If the plastic scratches, I'll get a new cover. I haven't dropped it in six months so that isn't an issue either. Nor have I dropped it in water. In short, I treat it like a phone. I don't treat it like a hammer, sander, etc.
The size of the iPhone 5s is also fine by me. It easily fits in most any of my front pockets. However, I am at the age where I need reading glasses so I may get an iPhone 7 or 8 or 9 depending on when my 5s is end of life. That said, at the rate that I replace my iDevices, I may be waiting for a 10, 11, or 12. I'm of the mindset that if it works, keep it. Something new won't necessarily make my life that much better so why spend the money which is hard to come by now that I'm retired.
The size of the iPhone 5s is also fine by me. It easily fits in most any of my front pockets. However, I am at the age where I need reading glasses so I may get an iPhone 7 or 8 or 9 depending on when my 5s is end of life. That said, at the rate that I replace my iDevices, I may be waiting for a 10, 11, or 12. I'm of the mindset that if it works, keep it. Something new won't necessarily make my life that much better so why spend the money which is hard to come by now that I'm retired.
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Third parties can sell replacement iPhone screens made of GG for cheap.
Only Apple will be the source of Sapphire replacement iPhone screens.
What's one of the most profitable parts of the automotive business? The parts business. Which parts? The one's that are pretty much ONLY available from the manufacturer because they have a patent or some unique element. Just had to pay more than $3K for a chip replacement part for the car that probably had a unit cost of near nothing. Why? Only available from the manufacturer. I'm certain it was a very profitable part sale.
Besides, "Sapphire" like "thinner" or "thinnest" will sound better in the marketing launch pitch.
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This is a basic demonstration of material science - things that are very hard (diamond, sapphire) tend to be brittle. It's the reason they are hard. They don't "give" until they break completely. This is what makes them very scratch resistant and makes them useful as tools.
Softer materials scratch more easily, but they tend not to shatter because they're not brittle.
Finding a combination of non-brittle-but-hard is not an easy compromise.
Softer materials scratch more easily, but they tend not to shatter because they're not brittle.
Finding a combination of non-brittle-but-hard is not an easy compromise.
why is this post even here?
there was nothing new in these videos. Apple are very unlikely to use pure Sapphire anyway, instead favouring a laminated type design which will add support in absorbing impact.
the only problem being any negative impact on clarity, the primary reason for choosing Sapphire over Gorilla Glass as both offer excellent scratch resistance.
there was nothing new in these videos. Apple are very unlikely to use pure Sapphire anyway, instead favouring a laminated type design which will add support in absorbing impact.
the only problem being any negative impact on clarity, the primary reason for choosing Sapphire over Gorilla Glass as both offer excellent scratch resistance.
I have seen previous video in which it was claimed that apple is laminating the sapphire to make it more resistant to drops. I don't understand the bend-test; who is going to try and bend his/her iPhone? Useless test.
The screen might not scratch, but the rest of the phone would be a dented, scratched, chipped mess!
He was arguing why the "iWatch" would be suited for a sapphire cover, not the iPhone.
I think you guys were arguing the same thing: that sapphire is fine for watches but problematic for a phone.
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Couldn't disagree more. I have had my 5 without any case or screen protector for 2 years. I have no scratches, but a shattered screen is a costly problem.
I have dropped my phone countless times without no issue, so I don't see why we need a change. If they could make something that was resistant to drops on concrete, then I would be interested.
I posted this before in an earlier thread, but I think it needs to be posted again since we keep getting this "chunk of solid sapphire" idea thrown around:
I agree 100% with you. It would be nice to be able to place the iphone in my pocket with car keys or a cigarette lighter, not having to worry about it being scratched.
Stop smoking and buy a new car with remote control keys: problem solved.
Exactly.. watches are not just 'pure' sapphire.. nor would an iPhone be pure sapphire..
This is such a media grab and BS test.. RAW Sapphire against highly modified GLASS? Exactly how does that prove anything? RAW glass would shatter just as easily.
Apple is laminating and layering Sapphire changing it's makeup JUST LIKE GG does for normal glass.. Normal glass would shatter too.. such a dumb test.. literally proves nothing but their incompetence and/or bias trying to prop up GG..
All you need to do is look at the patents rolling by from Apple on how they will apply strengthening and applying durability techniques to Sapphire to realize they are very serious .. lol
As watches have much thicker crystals than smartphones' glass that point is meaningless.
Even so, I have broken several sapphire crystals on watches.
Michael
I have more issues with the case of the iPhone than its glass. Any drop on a hard surface will damage the metal case of the iPhone. This part is more vulnerable than the glass actually, yes it will not shatter, but your iPhone gets rough edges and looks like ****. I am careful with my iPhone (its a company phone btw) but it is impossible to avoid dropping it over a long period of time as this will happen with any stuff you carry in your pocket.
I'd much rather it being impact resistant. While I have not used a screen protector on my last 2 iphones one would be barely noticeable if I did have a problem with scratches. On the other hand a case that will protect against glass breakage is going to be very noticeable--for me.
Mike
Meaningless? If you read what i was talking about i never mentioned any smartphone at all, your reply was meaningless.
Tempering would make it MORE brittle and prone to shattering, but a bit stronger. That's the opposite of what's needed. I certainly hope Apple has a raised bezel, but I sincerely doubt it.
Hopefully when they end up using it shattering won't be a big issue. I'm fine with getting tiny scratches on my phone as it sits in my pocket when I'm not using it and I expect things to happen (not major scratches of course). However, I hate when I get scratches on my watches. I'd really love the iWatch to be a lot more scratch resistant than the iPhones are now.
These video's insure that Apple has only done as much research on sapphire as these guys.
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watch crystal is thicker
Typically a watch sapphire is much thicker and smaller surface area. It will hold up much better to be dropped. I wouldn't want to wear an expensive watch if I were doing watch hazardous things.
Typically a watch sapphire is much thicker and smaller surface area. It will hold up much better to be dropped. I wouldn't want to wear an expensive watch if I were doing watch hazardous things.
