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Sluggish Safari on new MBP 16
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I've had this problem and it was due to (very) bad Wacom drivers. For those of you using a tablet follow the link and try the tip (using an older driver):
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Bad GFX performance on MacBook Pro 16-inch
Yes!! All of the sudden (seemingly randomly) the whole Desktop would lag (moving windows, opening closing them,...) Like the video you posted! So I did another partition and installed a fresh Catalina on it. Everything worked better until i installed the Wacom drivers. The lag came back. That...
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I've had this problem and it was due to (very) bad Wacom drivers. For those of you using a tablet follow the link and try the tip (using an older driver):
Bad GFX performance on MacBook Pro 16-inch
Yes!! All of the sudden (seemingly randomly) the whole Desktop would lag (moving windows, opening closing them,...) Like the video you posted! So I did another partition and installed a fresh Catalina on it. Everything worked better until i installed the Wacom drivers. The lag came back. That...
Thanks for sharing but unfortunately it's not my case since I don't have any Wacoms
Hey everyone. I intermittently have the same issue. My observations:
1. when the problem happens, I see no GPU activity in activity monitor.
2. when I turn off and on automatic graphics switching, the problem temporarily goes away. I also see iGPU activity.
3. I also have wacom drivers installed, it may be the cause.
My guess is that, for some reason, safari falls back to software rendering and doesn't use GPU acceleration at all.
Related observation:
Before I uninstalled the Wacom drivers, I would see stutters in the mouse input while playing an old game (that I know runs at high fps). The problem went away after uninstallation.
1. when the problem happens, I see no GPU activity in activity monitor.
2. when I turn off and on automatic graphics switching, the problem temporarily goes away. I also see iGPU activity.
3. I also have wacom drivers installed, it may be the cause.
My guess is that, for some reason, safari falls back to software rendering and doesn't use GPU acceleration at all.
Related observation:
Before I uninstalled the Wacom drivers, I would see stutters in the mouse input while playing an old game (that I know runs at high fps). The problem went away after uninstallation.
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Base model MacBook Pro 16 here. The issue persists in 1344*860 at 60Hz refresh rate. Both typing and Youtube videos are affected.
So, the trick appears to be turning off the Automatic Graphics Switching in the Energy Settings. So far so good.
Yeah but when you do this you turn on the Navi card instead of using the intel iGPU causing more battery drain :/
When automatic switching is disabled, dGPU appears to drain battery quicker (expected behaviour).
Oh from the display setting, gotcha. Ive been using gswitch and setting the igpu 24/7 unless doing intensive work.
Lol same here, my MBP whenever it wakes up from sleep goes cray cray on Reddit/Imgur or anything heavy imaged related
Could you folks leave Console open, select your device (hostname), toggle 'Errors and Faults, and post the faults (red dots) when the issues happen. The errors are not logged in any flat file so you have to keep Console open to see the errors! So far there is a combination of three error codes listed down below that I have seen consistently on multiple machines. This is because of the bug introduced by the Security Update 2020-002 released on the last three major OS versions with Catalina downwards. I'll also link a good place to keep an eye on fixes or workarounds (not that great unless you downgrade and skip this security update from terminal).
Process - coreduetd or routined
Message - Couldn't read values in CFPrefsPlistSource……
Process - Kernel
Message - IntelAccelerator OR void IOAccelFenceMachine
Article outlining the issue - https://mrmacintosh.com/2020-002-up...ing-hw-accelerated-video/#blog_subscription-3
Process - coreduetd or routined
Message - Couldn't read values in CFPrefsPlistSource……
Process - Kernel
Message - IntelAccelerator OR void IOAccelFenceMachine
Article outlining the issue - https://mrmacintosh.com/2020-002-up...ing-hw-accelerated-video/#blog_subscription-3
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Every time I'm watching a 4k video and want to browse on Safari, everything becomes even worse. That's the moment where I kick in the dGPU lol
Great news: Apple finally released what could be the fix to the video conferencing bugs and overall freeze issues (along with a slew of other kernel bug fixes) for OS versions High Sierra, Mojave, and Catalina. It will be a security update for High Sierra and Mojave called Security Update 2020-003. For Catalina it will simply be v10.15.5. Lets hope it doesn't bring any new bugs!
I downloaded the new update, Safari is working smoothly so far. I did notice very rarely the cursor freezes for a second. Does anyone else have this issue.
For those reporting issues please leave Console app open, select ‘Errors and Faults’, and report fault errors (in red) when the issue occurs. Note that these fault codes will not appear in flat log files for whatever reason. You have to catch it with Console open. =/
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Got the update like 30 mins ago, doing some heavy browsing right now.
So far the only issues I'm getting is a bit of lag when opening new tabs
Hey you are not alone.
There's a lot of threads noticing lag, stuttering or other display problems with MBP16. Myself included. It is such a nuance, that maybe many users don't appreciate it, but for me, it's driving me crazy. I updated from an iMac 5K, and my user experience is so worse just by browsing files and internet. look around, apparently it has to do with the integrated graphics card. The community is trying to figure out if it's a hardware or software issue, since many users don't seem to notice anything.
I'm wondering if it's because we are used (and sensitive) to ultra-smooth navigation. It is just so bothering for me.
So was this issue resolved for you all on the iGPU with the latest update? A search brought me here, I don't have a MBP but a 2020 Air and I get frame drop scrolling, not terrible but noticeable. This is in the system and safari. I'm on 10.15.5. Thanks.