If you read the section on why there is need for this legislatio….literally none of that is happening. The myth of the destruction of small businesses is just that, a myth.
Except this isn’t really that urgent except to Epic. When they finally get around to content providers its going to be too late. Imagine trying to untangle Amazon from MGM in 2027 or whenever they finally get around to realize that there are actually companies killing competition right under their noses.They have to start somewhere and the information released in the Epic trial shows the urgency of the situation with the FAANGs.
I think we should wait and see what happens with the legislation. I agree with you about content providers.Except this isn’t really that urgent except to Epic. When they finally get around to content providers its going to be too late. Imagine trying to untangle Amazon from MGM in 2027 or whenever they finally get around to realize that there are actually companies killing competition right under their noses.
The other poster was correct. This is a dog and pony show. They can stop anti-competitive behavior if they wanted to but they want headlinges instead
They have lost a lot of market share to streaming. They don't have near the power they used too.
If you're talking ISPs, that's a different story, those should be regulated like landline telephone service, electricity, and water.
Both of your statements are opinions, and neither one has anything to do with whether Apple is a monopoly or not.Apple's business practices are awful and Tim Cook has really pissed off developers.
He says typing from the computer made by "big tech"...What government, the Communist regime currently in power ? Still, this is good as I want Big Tech to suffer, wither and die. It has caused nothing but problems.
So if Apple decided they no longer want to have a business at all, and walk away from it. Close shop if you will. What happens to all those developers?Apple failed to address developer relations in any serious fashion at WWDC, and so they’ve now reaped the reward: a bipartisan bill specifically targeting the App Store business model.
It sounds like you want something that Apple doesn't make. Maybe go look for that product instead that does what you want. Apple makes a product they want to make. If you happen to like it, your welcome to purchase it. You're not welcome to tell them what to do just like they can't force you to purchase their product "only".Multiple payment systems and application sources have worked great for many many years in Windows, Linux, and Macs. Don’t like it? Don’t use it! Just like you do when you’re on a PC/Mac. The rest of us want to have more freedom to do what WE want with OUR devices.
Apple can put an option saying: “installing application from outside sources can be dangerous, are you sure you want to do that?”…. Click yes or no.
Simple as that. I want to be able to get open source application like in Macs/PCs/Linux and not have to be dependent only on Apple, because they push developers to charge us freaking subscription fees for stupid simple applications like Calendar apps.
Open it up for more competition and better apps! Locking down the store does not benefit the consumer but Apple only. Costing the users more money because Apple pushes developers to offer subscription for less fees. If they want to do that… fine… I would download a similar app somewhere else then that is open source.
No business has the inherent obligation to allow everyone, regardless, to be a customer.Exactly. By bullying and concerted action (or at least collusion), the big players forced them to change how they did business.
Yes they are opinions. Just like you have opinions. I am talking about how Apple treats developers. Can one not discuss business practices and only discuss monopoly issues?Both of your statements are opinions, and neither one has anything to do with whether Apple is a monopoly or not.
If you hate Apple so much why are you here? Would you like the URL for a Samsung forum?
I understand the distinction between the way Apple treats developers and whether Apple has a monopoly. Historically, anti-trust/monopolistic sanctions occurred due to abuses that occur to the end user/customer. Most of the complaints that I have heard about the iOS store is from developers. User ratings show few complaints from end-consumers.Yes they are opinions. Just like you have opinions. I am talking about how Apple treats developers. Can one not discuss business practices and only discuss monopoly issues?
I do not hate Apple. Thats is your opinion.
Actually, I am using a PowerPC Mac which Big Tech considers to be worthless.He says typing from the computer made by "big tech"...
I am all for that !So if Apple decided they no longer want to have a business at all, and walk away from it. Close shop if you will. What happens to all those developers?
You know, Apple could if they wanted to. Stop selling anyone else's apps today. Take it all down. We could go right back to flip phone days and the sorta smart devices with only the built in apps.
Commissar Cook has pissed off everyone. Its a miracle Apple is still around. It should have died with Steve when he died. Sadly.. we all want Steve back.. but under Commissar Cook, it will suffer greatly.Both of your statements are opinions, and neither one has anything to do with whether Apple is a monopoly or not.
If you hate Apple so much why are you here? Would you like the URL for a Samsung forum?
Common carriers - which can be a private, for-profit business - have an obligation to serve (mostly) everyone in the are of their service. Apple may not be a common carrier in the traditional sense but it does have some similar market power.No business has the inherent obligation to allow everyone, regardless, to be a customer.
Because you think “it” will happen…reality can be quite different.Commissar Cook has pissed off everyone. Its a miracle Apple is still around. It should have died with Steve when he died. Sadly.. we all want Steve back.. but under Commissar Cook, it will suffer greatly.
I agree with you. The question is would Apple, Amazon, et al. be considered common carriers when other options exist. Even on the iPhone web apps are not restricted in any way. It would be hard to argue that AWS is a common carrier but it might be easier than arguing Apple is.Common carriers - which can be a private, for-profit business - have an obligation to serve (mostly) everyone in the are of their service. Apple may not be a common carrier in the traditional sense but it does have some similar market power.
To quote the terms of the American Choice and Innovation Online Act:
Is Apple operating a "covered platform" that is a "critical trading partner" with "the ability to restrict or impede the access of a business user" (software developer) "to its users or customers" or to a service a business user needs "to effectively serve" their customers?
If so, it is unlawful to exclude competing products or services where that would hinder competition.
In that sense, Apple may be obligated to allow Spotify (a service competing to Apple’s own Apple Music) access to the Apple App Store.
I know it will happen.. just give it time.Because you think “it” will happen…reality can be quite different.
We will see.I know it will happen.. just give it time.
Basically, you're asking Apple to make iOS like Android?Multiple payment systems and application sources have worked great for many many years in Windows, Linux, and Macs. Don’t like it? Don’t use it! Just like you do when you’re on a PC/Mac. The rest of us want to have more freedom to do what WE want with OUR devices.
Apple can put an option saying: “installing application from outside sources can be dangerous, are you sure you want to do that?”…. Click yes or no.
Simple as that. I want to be able to get open source application like in Macs/PCs/Linux and not have to be dependent only on Apple, because they push developers to charge us freaking subscription fees for stupid simple applications like Calendar apps.
Open it up for more competition and better apps! Locking down the store does not benefit the consumer but Apple only. Costing the users more money because Apple pushes developers to offer subscription for less fees. If they want to do that… fine… I would download a similar app somewhere else then that is open source.
I disagree. If politicians truly wish to make a difference then they should start with themselves, as nothing harms innovation and progress more than 99+% of politicians going all out to enrich themselves and themselves only.****ing finally
It is a dumb move as politicians are the last people to b embossing anyone around right now with the Republicans refusing to do the right thing from sending Americans covid relief cheques or refusing to push voter restriction bills and the Democrats are as bad for being weak and so desperate to please the GOP.Seems like a step in the right direction. I wonder who gets to define what is a dominant platform? I mean would the Playstation 5 buisness model be legal under this legislation?
They are all bad.. but I will say Democrats are the new communists.It is a dumb move as politicians are the last people to b embossing anyone around right now with the Republicans refusing to do the right thing from sending Americans covid relief cheques or refusing to push voter restriction bills and the Democrats are as bad for being weak and so desperate to please the GOP.