Apple kiosks coming to that store soon. They already dont have a register so just give us a kiosk and I can grab my item and pay without the need for some person to ask for a tip for doing absolutely nothing
Sorry but I think that asking for a tip at checkout cheapens the workers at the store. They stop being an agent of the company that employs them and instead become an agent to themselves. If the employees feel they are being underpaid, they can look elsewhere for work.How does one do that? I haven't seen anyone use cash at an Apple store. And having a "tip jar" just cheapens the whole experience.
I don't deny there are lots of shady unions that are corrupted. But also asking to screw ALL unions, means letting the corporations do whatever they want and good luck expecting anything positive to happen for workers. lolThe reason is generally simple. Unions do little for the competent and industrious and protect the rest.
I once had a union job. The union protested my promotion for the sole reason that it meant that my position would be represented by a DIFFERENT UNION. So, here was a case where my union, which is supposed to look out for me, was perfectly willing to block my promotion and screw me over, simply to protect its own interests.
So...yeah. Screw unions.
Lots of positive things happen for employees, with no union involvement. Lots and lots!I don't deny there are lots of shady unions that are corrupted. But also asking to screw ALL unions, means letting the corporations do whatever they want and good luck expecting anything positive to happen for workers. lol
The tip system in the US is a joke. In most countries, a surcharge is already included in the bill for certain services. (primarily restaurants). This is another way to screw workers by paying cheap minimum wages in the expectation of recouping it in tips. Give people a fair and honest salary and leave this BS behind. The problem is these gigantic corporations want to squeeze their labor force to maximize profits for shareholders. It's a sad state of affairs.
The point was about retail in general, not just Apple.Since when do Apple stores open at 8am?
The point was about retail in general, not just Apple.
But if it makes you happier: who works the retail side *10*-4 when teens are in school and everyone else is at their primary job?
My wife’s a HS teacher, kids can end at different times based on class schedule and after school activities, I picked a general time in the right range. Most schools end around 330 FWIWPlenty of people work nights as their primary job.
As for teens...our child's school ends at 2:20, not 4:00.
My wife’s a HS teacher, kids can end at different times based on class schedule and after school activities, I picked a general time in the right range. Most schools end around 330 FWIW
That said I think you may be missing the main point my dude. Retail jobs are full jobs, for that matter if a teen is working they deserve a full wage.
However not less than federal min wage, and I dont believe many if any states allow below their state min wages (Outside of farm work and waiting tables, which have their own exemptions for a lot of labor regs). Min wage should be a living wage, as it was intended.Some localities permit employers to pay less to young workers.
However not less than federal min wage (Outside of farm work and waiting tables, which have their own exemptions for a lot of labor regs). Min wage should be a living wage, as it was intended.
Eh, fair enough, you are technically correct. Of course to keep that wage as a static you’d have to violate FLSA since you arent allowed to displace higher wage workers to hire folks at the youth rate and you can only pay them the youth rate for 90 calendar days max no matter age at which point their pay has to rise to the regular min wage. So for seasonal work it applies but for year round work it’s not really applicable.Not true.
Federal FLSA allows employers to pay a youth minimum wage of not less than $4.25 an hour to employees who are under 20 years of age during the first 90 consecutive calendar days after initial employment.
Tips are fine in restaurants and hotels (hospitality industry) and certain services BUT when you start expanding it all over and especially at places like Apple it's a joke. A way for corporations to pay low wages and force customers to foot that bill. Pay fair and honest wages and give a reason for employees to feel worthy and excited to work. Enough of maximizing profits at all costs.Not sure what country you are from, but as someone who was a waiter and worked for tips in the USA, it's the fairest system around. If you are good, you make great money. If you are not, you may leave the job for something else or just be mediocre. You definitely don't make as much and don't deserve to.
Is it fair to pay the same wage to an employee who never meets deadlines, always has an excuse, comes in late, leaves early, as someone who's always on time or early, always meets deadlines, never has excuses? NO it does not. People who do more should be paid more. Otherwise, where's the incentive to do anything?
Eh, fair enough, you are technically correct. Of course to keep that wage as a static you’d have to violate FLSA since you arent allowed to displace higher wage workers to hire folks at the youth rate and you can only pay them the youth rate for 90 calendar days max no matter age at which point their pay has to rise to the regular min wage. So for seasonal work it applies but for year round work it’s not really applicable.
No, what it demonstrates is that conservatives in the house didnt consider youth workers as equals in 1996, just under 60 years after the original act passed, and forced that provision into the ‘96 updates to pass them. You know, the same folks that have spent most of the last half century and more keeping min wage from being the living wage it was originally.Ah, but this demonstrates that youth workers are not seen as equals AND that min wage can't really be considered a "living" wage.
Not everyone is cut to be their own boss. Corporations should not have a free pass to do whatever they want. There is a reason labor laws and other advancements were put in place decades ago. Child labor, extreme hours, work safety, etc. Again, I am just advocating for a fair system.Lots of positive things happen for employees, with no union involvement. Lots and lots!
But if people don't like it, they're welcome to start their own businesses. That's how all the corporations people love to hate got started. Be sure to invite the unions in ASAP!!
And it’s worth remembering, for all the faults unions can have, that safety regulations are mostly written in union blood. Most of the workplace protections we take for granted today came out of union bargainingNot everyone is cut to be their own boss. Corporations should not have a free pass to do whatever they want. There is a reason labor laws and other advancements were put in place decades ago. Child labor, extreme hours, work safety, etc. Again, I am just advocating for a fair system.
No, what it demonstrates is that conservatives in the house didnt consider youth workers as equals in 1996, just under 60 years after the original act passed, and forced that provision into the ‘96 updates to pass them. You know, the same folks that have spent most of the last half century and more keeping min wage from being the living wage it was originally.
If a teen (or anyone else) is working, they deserve a wage commensurate with their work. If a teen (or anyone else) is goofing off, they need to learn how to work before they get a good wage.My wife’s a HS teacher, kids can end at different times based on class schedule and after school activities, I picked a general time in the right range. Most schools end around 330 FWIW
That said I think you may be missing the main point my dude. Retail jobs are full jobs, for that matter if a teen is working they deserve a full wage.