... Well, obviously. I did literally say it could allow future versions or firmware updated versions of 6K and 8K displays, to support full resolution @ 60Hz, over a single cable setup without requiring TB3.
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Is there ever a case where that would matter on a Mac? Isn't the only non TB3 USB-C port on any Mac the one on the discontinued MacBook (or is there another one somewhere)? Unless you're running a $5000 monitor off a 5 watt computer, you have TB3 on any port the cable fits, no?
It could certainly help PC users, but is Apple going to bother with a feature that doesn't matter to any Mac user, or is there some implication I'm not thinking of?
It could certainly help PC users, but is Apple going to bother with a feature that doesn't matter to any Mac user, or is there some implication I'm not thinking of?
It’s mostly only interesting in how slapdash it is. They don’t even mention the specific car we’re supposed to compare it to.
I’m also unaware of most people making money off their Audis as opposed to them being money pits of taxes and maintenance, but let’s continue comparing apples to oranges!
What a load of drivel. it's only the crazy amount of RAM that you could install that makes it so expensive.
I mean, you can spend X amount on a car – or you could have it impregnated with diamonds, making it extortionately expensive. And some can afford to, but not every car is that same friggin' price. Stupid halfwitted 'journalism'.
I mean, you can spend X amount on a car – or you could have it impregnated with diamonds, making it extortionately expensive. And some can afford to, but not every car is that same friggin' price. Stupid halfwitted 'journalism'.
If a monitor vendor wanted to offer a very high res display, using DSC over USB-C would open up options for PC users not using TB3 equipped video cards.
Case in point: the Dell 8K.
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This would help Mac users because it's more choices of high resolution display available, without needing to resort to weird two-cable setups.
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I wish I could configure it without any GPU or RAM at all and save a few bucks. I’d run with a standard GPU until I can save and get the MPX Vega II Duo on its own.
I think it's time for this thread to be closed.
Why? Is it because now that the Mac Pro is available nobody wants to talk about Windows any more?
With the release of the 7,1 Mac Pro the topic is no longer relevant. This thread looks to have covered almost every subject and could probably continue going indefinitely.
It is also lower costs ( more affordable card ) not to have Thunderbolt on board. Also the demographic of folks who just need a "just fast enough" GPU typically means they are using 3rd party displays with HDMI inputs. ( the just enough to see the display options will have HDMI also. A contemporary generic TV will have ...... HDMI. ) . That's why.
As for the 4 DP1.4 streams routed to the standard MP 2019 TB ports, that is what the MPX module is suppose to do. The 580X isn't the 'odd' one. The Vega II i the odd one. The Vega II Duo does do all four. There are two GPUs. There is more than enough DP output lanes to do 4 on edge and 4 to the host. One GPU does one set and the other can do all the internals . ( or provide two that the main display GPU falls short on. ). The reason why the Vega II doesn't do all 4 is that it runs out of output streams.
When the W5700X it will be a tie. It took joins the ranks of the Vega II and runs out of DP streams to provide internally.
when the MPX GPU module comes up short on streams, each one of the internal TBv3 controllers gets one video stream so can get one stream out of the pair it provisions.
The W5700X also does only two. As you said (and as I surmised, but I missed that the Vega duo does 4 internal) - a single gpu doesn’t have enough dp streams.
Edit: two many uses of the word streams.
I’m just a salty owner of the aforementioned Dell 8K monitor
At least it looks stunning at 4K HiDPI mode and makes the 5K iMacs look like toy monitors.
Stock Navi does not seem to support Infinity Fabric right now, so my guess is it will be Vega only.
Both GPUs can both be used at once, but without the high speed link, it's probably going to be reserved for parallel compute/graphics task like on the 2013.
The 5700 is not listed as a “duo” card (ie with two GPUs on one card) so it would have no need for infinity fabric.
Infinity Fabric is not limited to the duos. It can also be used with two of the single GPU Vega 2 cards. Apple sells an Infinity Fabric bridge to link the cards.
Is that on the accessory store somewhere?
edit to add: meaning it is a physical product, not a protocol operating across PCIe or such?
So the Infinity Fabric bridge is used either in a two Vega 2 card configuration, creating a fabric of 2 GPUs. Or you can use it if you have two Vega 2 Duos, creating a uber fabric of four GPUs.
It is a physical bridge and you can actually see it in a lot of the product shots. Apple likes to show the Mac Pro with the two Vega 2 Duos in shots, and you can see a strap looking thing across the two cards.
I have not seen it sold separately. I'm assuming it might just be bundled with the Vega 2 kits. It is referenced in the support and install docs.
I don not know what happens if you try to put a Vega 2 and Vega 2 Duo into the same fabric.