Windows World of Tanks

[ArthurWellsley]

Huntn - where did you get that worthy list from?

Worthy

Nothing below tier VI

Tier VI
T34 -85 russian medium
Rudy - premium clone of above
Cromwell
Cromwell B - premium clone of above
Type 64 - premium light useful in tier VI stronghold battles

Tier VII
T20 - USA medium

Tier VIII
Type 59 - no longer available Chinese medium
T44 - Russian medium
FCM - premium French
IS6 - premium Russian heavy
IS3 - best in tier heavy
T54 Lightweight - best top tier scout

Tier IX
T54 - Russian medium
AMX 30 proto - bound to be nerfed soon, French medium

Tier X
Object 140 - Russian medium
T62a - Russian medium
Bat Chat - French medium

and for the spreadsheet question - wotnumbers.com is highly configurable, and produces information in a form exportable to spreadsheets, but not sure it can do precisely what you want.

Is your WoT nickname Huntn as well?

 

[Huntn]

Huntn - where did you get that worthy list from?

Worthy

Nothing below tier VI

Tier VI
T34 -85 russian medium
Rudy - premium clone of above
Cromwell
Cromwell B - premium clone of above
Type 64 - premium light useful in tier VI stronghold battles

Tier VII
T20 - USA medium

Tier VIII
Type 59 - no longer available Chinese medium
T44 - Russian medium
FCM - premium French
IS6 - premium Russian heavy
IS3 - best in tier heavy
T54 Lightweight - best top tier scout

Tier IX
T54 - Russian medium
AMX 30 proto - bound to be nerfed soon, French medium

Tier X
Object 140 - Russian medium
T62a - Russian medium
Bat Chat - French medium

and for the spreadsheet question - wotnumbers.com is highly configurable, and produces information in a form exportable to spreadsheets, but not sure it can do precisely what you want.

Is your WoT nickname Huntn as well?

Thanks I'll check that out!
I made my worthy list based on playing but I've not updated it in a while. Off the top of my head I'll add the Rhm, AMX CDC, T49, Obj 704, M103, ST1, TOG II, E75, E100, VK4502 B, and I'm scared to death of the FV215b 183, Jagdpanzer E100, and the Waffle!!

 

[Huntn]

Huntn’s* Worthy Tank List Updated 03 Sept 2015
*WoT hack.

Numbers 145/135= Penetration/Damage
RPM= rounds per minute
L= Light
M= Medium
H= Heavy
TD= Tank Destroyer
SPG= Artillery
DERP= low penetration, high damage gun.

Tier 3
*PZ.1C (German L)- Wreak havoc in this highly mobile, with fast firing autoloader.
*T7 Combat Car (USA L)- Wreak havoc in this highly mobile, with fast firing autoloader, 50 rounds!

Tier 4
*Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs (German L)- Highly mobile, fast firing autoloader.
*Hetzer (German TD)- Brutal T4 64/350 DERP gun.

Tier 5
*KV-1 (Russian H)- Brutal DERP in T5 Battle, effective 120/160 @12 rpm. Unfortunately you don’t what kind of battle in advance.
*M4 Sherman- (US M)- Brutal T5 53/410 DERP gun.
*AMX ELC bis (French L)- Highly mobile, with a lethal T5 170/240 @5 rpm gun.
*Pz.Sfl. iVC (German TD)- Known as the Toaster, effective 194/240 @8 rpm.
*Grille (German SPG)- Fast firing for an arty 2.55 rpm and accurate.


Tier 6
*T-150 (Russian H)- better than the KV85. Slightly better armor, plus 167/300 @ 6 rpm, vs KV-85 175/390 @ 3rpm.
*KV2 (Russian H)- Brutal derp, 110/700 for a T6.
*T-34-85 (Russian M)- macho medium with killer gun. 144/180, 10rpm.
*Cromwell (British M)- highly effective and mobile medium. 145/135 @15rpm.
*AMX 12t- (French L)Highly mobile, fast firing autoloader gun.
*SU-100 (Russian TD)- Killer TD at Tier 6 175/390 @4.7rpm.
*SU-100Y (Russian TD)- Even more of a killer 196/440 @4rpm although a slower reload than the SU-100.
*AT8 (British TD)- Highly armored, slow, with frontal armor of 203, hard for Tier 6 tanks to overcome unless they can flank you.
*FV304 (UK SPG)- fast firing and mobile arty with high shell arc to get people behind rocks.

Tier 7
*T29 (US H)- One of be beast heavies when hull down with 279 turret armor. 198/320 @5rpm gun.
*IS2 (Russian H)- mobile and lethal. 175/390 @5 rpm.
*KV-13 (Russian M)- macho medium.
*M41Walker Bulldog (US L)- Highly mobile, fast firing autoloader gun, 175/150 every 4 sec, or every 2 sec with autoloader.
*AMX 13 75- French L)Highly mobile, fast firing autoloader, 144/135.
*T71 (US L)- Highly mobile, fast firing autoloader 175/150.
*SU-152 (Russian TD)- Awesome T7 DERP 135/700 gun.
*Lorraine 155 mle.50 (French SPG)- Sweet spot for arty, accurate with a 2 rpm.

Tier 8
*IS3 (Russian H)- Possibly the most effective T8 heavy, mobile with lethal 225/390 @5rpm gun.
*T32- Feared US Workhorse.
*KV-4 (Russian H)- A brute.
*T-34-2 (Chinese M)- Reminds me of a Type 59 which I don't have and can't buy.
*Rhm.-Borsig Waffentrager (German TD)- Killer Gun.
*T49 (US L)- fast tank with an absolutely killer top end DERP. Kaboom!

Tier 9
*E75 (German H)
*M103 (US H)- can seem challenged fighting an E75, but good support heavy.
*ST1 (Russian H)- tough tank
*VK4502 B (German H)- tough tank.

Tier X
*FV215B 183 (UK TD)- a real killer hard to pen.
*E 100 (German H)- tough tank, killer gun.
*Jagdpanzwer E 100 (German TD)- scarier than the E100!
*Waffentrager E 100 (German TD)- Came from Hell with autoloader!

Premiums
*Lowe (German T8-H)- Heavy premium workhorse.
*T34 (U.S. T8-H)- Heavy premium workhorse.
*AMX Chasseur de chars- (French T8-M), mobile, fast firing, huge gun depression.
*Type59 (Chinese T8-M)- I lust for this tank, but it’s no longer for sale. (Sept 2015 A similiar looking sounding name, different tank in Premium shop. $54)
*E25- (German T8-TD)- mobile fast firing. 150/135 @20rpm.
*Ram II- (US T5-M), lethal fast firing gun. 2.3 second reload.
*AMX 13 57- (French T7-L), Absolutely lethal, highly mobile, extremely fast firing gun, 143/90 with 1 sec reload, 8 shells in magazine.
*T54 First Prototype (Russian T7-L)- fast tank, good armor and gun.
*TOG II (British T6-H)- Unless flanked difficult for other T6s to deal with. Killer gun. Can absorb a ton of damage.
*SU100Y (British T6-TD) Coined by my Grandson as "The Death Bus", a lot of death to hand out for this big ugly tank.

 

[ArthurWellsley]

OK let me point out the errors in your list;
Tier 3
*PZ.1C (German L)- Correct
*T7 Combat Car (Russian L)- It's USA not Soviet, and it's poor

Tier 4
*Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs (German L)- Correct
*Hetzer (German TD)- Correct

Tier 5
*KV-1 (Russian H)- Correct
*M4 Sherman- (US M)- Correct - after the HE normalisation (read nerf, not so good)
*AMX ELC bis (French L)- Correct
*Pz.Sfl. iVC (German TD)- Correct - use second gun, not the top gun.
*Grille (German SPG)- Correct


Tier 6
*T-150 (Russian H)- Correct
*KV2 (Russian H)- Correct useless except for laughs as takes too long to re-load to be effective.
*T-34-85 (Russian M)- Correct.
*Cromwell (British M)- Correct.
*AMX 12t- (French L)- Correct.
*SU-100 (Russian TD)- Correct.
*SU-100Y (Russian TD)- Correct - too big, no camo, useless.
*AT8 (British TD)- Correct.
*FV304 (German SPG)- Bert is UK NOT German.

Tier 7
*T29 (US H)- Correct.
*IS2 (Russian H)- Correct.
*KV-13 (Russian M)- Correct not nearly as good as either A43, or T34-1 or T20.
*M41Walker Bulldog (US L)- Correct
*AMX 13 75- Correct - very poor since patch 9.6.
*T71 (US L)- Correct - very poor since patch 9.6.
*SU-152 (Russian TD)- Correct useless except for laughs as takes too long to re-load to be effective .
*Lorraine 155 mle.50 (French SPG)- Correct.

Tier 8
*IS3 (Russian H)- Correct.
*T32- Correct - not very good due to weak gun, and situational due to hull made of butter.
*KV-4 (Russian H)- Correct - too slow.
*T-34-2 (Chinese M)- Correct - difficult to play due to lack of gun depression and long re-load.
*Rhm.-Borsig Waffentrager (German TD)- Correct- but weaker after patch 9.1.
*T49 (US L)- Correct useless except for laughs as takes too long to re-load to be effective

Tier 9
*E75 (German H) - Correct
*M103 (US H)- Correct.
*ST1 (Russian H)- Correct
*VK4502 B (German H)- Correct.

Tier X
*FV215B 183 (French TD)- it's UK and NOT French.
*E 100 (German H)- Correct.
*Jagdpanzwer E 100 (German TD)- Correct
*Waffentrager E 100 (German TD)- no camo, no armour (note correct spelling) useless.

Premiums
*Lowe (German T8-H)- slow, no armour.
*T34 (U.S. T8-H)- slow, long re-load.
*AMX Chasseur de chars- (French T8-M), less armour than a wet paper bag, dies if arty sneezes nearby.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
*Type59 (Chinese T8-M)- I lust for this tank, but it’s no longer for sale. (Sept 2015 reintroduced for sale in Premium shop. Will I buy it? $54 - NO WRONG it is not a re-introduction of the Type 59. Beware before you spend your dollars. It still might be worth money, but it's less clear cut than if it was a reintroduction.
What is on sale is a Type59/Patton hybrid. A different later tank than the Type 59. It has the hull of the Type 59 and the turret of the Patton. Blame Nixon for the thawing of USA/China relationship. The best part of the Type 59 in game is the turret, which comes straight from a tier IX, that has virtually no weak spot, whereas the Patton has the tumour weakspot on top. Might be good, might not, too early to tell, buyer beware. EDIT - I have read some early reviews which are not promising. It has good gun handling but poor 173 penetration on standard round, and the tumour on top is an easily hit weakspot that leads to excessive crew/module damage amongst early testers. Probably a tank to be avoided.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
*E25- (German T8-TD)- best played in a platoon of three.
*Ram II- (US T5-M), lethal fast firing gun. 2.3 second reload.
*AMX 13 57- (French T7-L), Absolutely lethal, highly mobile, extremely fast firing gun, 143/90 with 1 sec reload, 8 shells in magazine.
*T54 Lightweight (Russian T8-L)- fast tank, good armor and gun. NOT a PREMIUM
*TOG II (British T6-H)- One of the worst tanks in the whole game, just don't.
*SU100Y (British T6-TD) too big, no camo, useless.

You missed the two best premiums;
IS6 - has preferential MM, so only sees maximum tier IX enemies, troll armour, workable gun, prints wins, although little silver generated due to needing prem ammo vs other heavies. Beginners premium as hard not to do at least average in it.
FCM 50T - has preferential MM, so only sees maximum tier IX enemies, plays like a fat medium, with good gun handling and speed, with medium level armour. Fast manoeuvreable, decent penetration (212) so makes decent silver, and the speed allows you to move all over the battlefield denying enemy space to break through, backing up allies, and getting 2 on 1s. Not a beginners tank, but can also carry games to wins

 

[ArthurWellsley]

Jingles reviewed the 59Patton, so I thought I would post it here for you Huntn;

 

[Huntn]

Jingles reviewed the 59Patton, so I thought I would post it here for you Huntn;

Yeah my mistakes on that list, I'll correct. I'll check this review out, thanks! The original T59 if they did not nerf it, is awesome. I've all ready spent too much on premium tanks so I'll resist this one.

 

[ArthurWellsley]

Yeah my mistakes on that list, I'll correct. I'll check this review out, thanks! The original T59 if they did not nerf it, is awesome. I've all ready spent too much on premium tanks so I'll resist this one.

The Type 59 got a number of nerfs after it was first sold. I own one. It used to be faster, and bounced even more shots, but got nerfed, and the gun handling is now quite horrid. However, it's now in HD and so the turret armour may have been buffed in 9.10. Too early to tell yet.

 

[Huntn]

OK let me point out the errors in your list;
Tier 3
*PZ.1C (German L)- Correct
*T7 Combat Car (Russian L)- It's USA not Soviet, and it's poor

Tier 4
*Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs (German L)- Correct
*Hetzer (German TD)- Correct

Tier 5
*KV-1 (Russian H)- Correct
*M4 Sherman- (US M)- Correct - after the HE normalisation (read nerf, not so good)
*AMX ELC bis (French L)- Correct
*Pz.Sfl. iVC (German TD)- Correct - use second gun, not the top gun.
*Grille (German SPG)- Correct


Tier 6
*T-150 (Russian H)- Correct
*KV2 (Russian H)- Correct useless except for laughs as takes too long to re-load to be effective.
*T-34-85 (Russian M)- Correct.
*Cromwell (British M)- Correct.
*AMX 12t- (French L)- Correct.
*SU-100 (Russian TD)- Correct.
*SU-100Y (Russian TD)- Correct - too big, no camo, useless.
*AT8 (British TD)- Correct.
*FV304 (German SPG)- Bert is UK NOT German.

Tier 7
*T29 (US H)- Correct.
*IS2 (Russian H)- Correct.
*KV-13 (Russian M)- Correct not nearly as good as either A43, or T34-1 or T20.
*M41Walker Bulldog (US L)- Correct
*AMX 13 75- Correct - very poor since patch 9.6.
*T71 (US L)- Correct - very poor since patch 9.6.
*SU-152 (Russian TD)- Correct useless except for laughs as takes too long to re-load to be effective .
*Lorraine 155 mle.50 (French SPG)- Correct.

Tier 8
*IS3 (Russian H)- Correct.
*T32- Correct - not very good due to weak gun, and situational due to hull made of butter.
*KV-4 (Russian H)- Correct - too slow.
*T-34-2 (Chinese M)- Correct - difficult to play due to lack of gun depression and long re-load.
*Rhm.-Borsig Waffentrager (German TD)- Correct- but weaker after patch 9.1.
*T49 (US L)- Correct useless except for laughs as takes too long to re-load to be effective

Tier 9
*E75 (German H) - Correct
*M103 (US H)- Correct.
*ST1 (Russian H)- Correct
*VK4502 B (German H)- Correct.

Tier X
*FV215B 183 (French TD)- it's UK and NOT French.
*E 100 (German H)- Correct.
*Jagdpanzwer E 100 (German TD)- Correct
*Waffentrager E 100 (German TD)- no camo, no armour (note correct spelling) useless.

Premiums
*Lowe (German T8-H)- slow, no armour.
*T34 (U.S. T8-H)- slow, long re-load.
*AMX Chasseur de chars- (French T8-M), less armour than a wet paper bag, dies if arty sneezes nearby.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
*Type59 (Chinese T8-M)- I lust for this tank, but it’s no longer for sale. (Sept 2015 reintroduced for sale in Premium shop. Will I buy it? $54 - NO WRONG it is not a re-introduction of the Type 59. Beware before you spend your dollars. It still might be worth money, but it's less clear cut than if it was a reintroduction.
What is on sale is a Type59/Patton hybrid. A different later tank than the Type 59. It has the hull of the Type 59 and the turret of the Patton. Blame Nixon for the thawing of USA/China relationship. The best part of the Type 59 in game is the turret, which comes straight from a tier IX, that has virtually no weak spot, whereas the Patton has the tumour weakspot on top. Might be good, might not, too early to tell, buyer beware. EDIT - I have read some early reviews which are not promising. It has good gun handling but poor 173 penetration on standard round, and the tumour on top is an easily hit weakspot that leads to excessive crew/module damage amongst early testers. Probably a tank to be avoided.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
*E25- (German T8-TD)- best played in a platoon of three.
*Ram II- (US T5-M), lethal fast firing gun. 2.3 second reload.
*AMX 13 57- (French T7-L), Absolutely lethal, highly mobile, extremely fast firing gun, 143/90 with 1 sec reload, 8 shells in magazine.
*T54 Lightweight (Russian T8-L)- fast tank, good armor and gun. NOT a PREMIUM
*TOG II (British T6-H)- One of the worst tanks in the whole game, just don't.
*SU100Y (British T6-TD) too big, no camo, useless.

You missed the two best premiums;
IS6 - has preferential MM, so only sees maximum tier IX enemies, troll armour, workable gun, prints wins, although little silver generated due to needing prem ammo vs other heavies. Beginners premium as hard not to do at least average in it.
FCM 50T - has preferential MM, so only sees maximum tier IX enemies, plays like a fat medium, with good gun handling and speed, with medium level armour. Fast manoeuvreable, decent penetration (212) so makes decent silver, and the speed allows you to move all over the battlefield denying enemy space to break through, backing up allies, and getting 2 on 1s. Not a beginners tank, but can also carry games to wins

I've updated my list fixing errors. I'm not saying the IS6 and FCM50T are not good tanks, just have not got them on my list yet. Other comments you made:

The M4 nerfed? I don't play it much these days but
SU100Y & KV-2 both very fun T6 tanks, especially in a T6 match, no matter what you say.
T-34-2 I agree horrid gun depression.
T49 is awesome for ambushing unaware engaged tanks.
TOGII worst tank? Why besides being humongous? There are common situations as a top tier tank where you kick asses all over the map. It's gone now so if you haven't you can't.
I was thinking of the T54 First Prototype.
I've got a FCM 50T and I much prefer the CDC, probably don't know what I'm doing in it. I realize it plays like a medium. I cringe when I'm top tank in it.

 

[ArthurWellsley]

I suspect that the our difference in views on certain tanks is the way we play the game. You may play to have fun and relieve stress. I play for the same reason, but relieving real life stress means I want to dominate in WoT and win more often than the game wants me to. The match maker tries to pick two even teams. I pick tanks to give me an uneven advantage in any set up.

That means for me any tank that is excessively slow will not permit me to move from one part of the battle to the next fast and efficiently. Thus TOG II and Maus etc are not good heavies, whilst IS3 and IS7 are good heavies. Going into battle in IS3/IS7 means 15 against you, and 14 you can run around helping.

Heavies that re-load too slowly also cannot help much so T34 and KV2 are inferior for winning.

Yes there will always be the odd exceptional match where a slow heavy tank can dominate, but those will be fewer than for a more agile heavy tank. I cannot emphasis enough how important it is to watch the minimap and gauge the ebb and flow of the battle so that you move from area to area pressing advantages for your own side, and negating those of the enemy side. This is what gives me a recent 57% win rate (overall is still only 52% but it's rising). WG designed match making to produce an average 49% win rate for all players (2% are for draws). What I am therefore trying to do is win more often than the game is designed to produce for me. Personally I find this fun, but it does effect the way I judge tanks.

Let's try this test. You are allowed only ONE tank per tier and must chose one from tiers VIII, IX, and X. Pick your favourite.

Mine would be
Tier VIII = T44 USSR medium
Tier IX = T54 USSR medium
Tier X = T62a USSR medium

haha Belarussian designed game, has no Russian Bias (please note author may use sarcasm on occassion). If we are forced to avoid the obvious easymode win tanks in the USSR branches completely, then;

Tier VIII = STA Japanese medium
Tier IX = AMX 30 Prototype French Medium
Tier X = STB 1 Japanese Medium ( I have yet to get the AMX 30, tier X and so this might change, but I have a 100% win rate so far with the STB 1 and average damage per game is just over 4,000)

 

[Huntn]

I suspect that the our difference in views on certain tanks is the way we play the game. You may play to have fun and relieve stress. I play for the same reason, but relieving real life stress means I want to dominate in WoT and win more often than the game wants me to. The match maker tries to pick two even teams. I pick tanks to give me an uneven advantage in any set up.

That means for me any tank that is excessively slow will not permit me to move from one part of the battle to the next fast and efficiently. Thus TOG II and Maus etc are not good heavies, whilst IS3 and IS7 are good heavies. Going into battle in IS3/IS7 means 15 against you, and 14 you can run around helping.

Heavies that re-load too slowly also cannot help much so T34 and KV2 are inferior for winning.

Yes there will always be the odd exceptional match where a slow heavy tank can dominate, but those will be fewer than for a more agile heavy tank. I cannot emphasis enough how important it is to watch the minimap and gauge the ebb and flow of the battle so that you move from area to area pressing advantages for your own side, and negating those of the enemy side. This is what gives me a recent 57% win rate (overall is still only 52% but it's rising). WG designed match making to produce an average 49% win rate for all players (2% are for draws). What I am therefore trying to do is win more often than the game is designed to produce for me. Personally I find this fun, but it does effect the way I judge tanks.

Let's try this test. You are allowed only ONE tank per tier and must chose one from tiers VIII, IX, and X. Pick your favourite.

Mine would be
Tier VIII = T44 USSR medium
Tier IX = T54 USSR medium
Tier X = T62a USSR medium

haha Belarussian designed game, has no Russian Bias (please note author may use sarcasm on occassion). If we are forced to avoid the obvious easymode win tanks in the USSR branches completely, then;

Tier VIII = STA Japanese medium
Tier IX = AMX 30 Prototype French Medium
Tier X = STB 1 Japanese Medium ( I have yet to get the AMX 30, tier X and so this might change, but I have a 100% win rate so far with the STB 1 and average damage per game is just over 4,000)

For T8 it would be IS3. I don't own enough T9 or 10 to judge. I would describe the two 10s I own as not the best, the IS7 and the T110E5. For T10, I am enamored with the E100, The Waffle, Jagdpanzer E 100 and the FV215 (183), but I do cherish mobility, so fast tank, fast firing, hard hitting mediums are always appreciated, like the Cromwell , T34-85 for instance or the T-62A which I don't own. The CDC rocks although I can't say my win rate is spectacular in it, or in general. I'm an average player where occasionally events fall into place, occasionally I turn the tide of the battle, and even snag a top gun.

My least favorite tanks in the game are the heavily armored, very slow TDs, so what I'm enamored with may not make any logical sense. I love killer guns, high armor, but want my cake and eat it too. I specifically detest the T28 Prot for lack of mobility, but the AT7 was ok, strange. The original Japanese med line is pretty horrific and painful to move through. I spit on the Chi-Ri and have fingers crossed the STA1 is better.

 

[ArthurWellsley]

Japanese Mediums;
Chi-Nu = tier VI not a bad tank, maybe third best in tier
Chi-Ri = Horrible. Tier VII, too big (no camo either), too slow, and appalling pene on normal round, and hardly better on premium round. Good alpha if it can pene, so will bully tiers V & VI, struggles versus other VIIs, is weak vs tier VIII and is completely useless and a waste of space vs tier IX. A tank to be struggled through and then sold.
STA = a recent tier VIII and as a consequence more powerful than most of the orginial nations VIIIs once elite. Excellent gun, and gun handling, decent gun depression. A bit slow even with the top engine, turret a bit too weak, but mantlet is strong and gets decent bounces. A ridge fighter. Does all the M26 Pershing did in 2011/2012 but better. A good solid tier VIII medium.
Type 61 = has the NATO L7 gun so hits hard. Gun handling can be a bit lacking for a ridge sniper, you may want to use food instead of AFE once all modules are researched. Good gun depression, but the tumour on top is obvious weakspot. Same role as M46 Patton and Centurion 7/1, just better than both of those due to dpm.
STB-1 = god like dpm. Best distant/view range sniper of the tier X mediums. Usurps previous best the Leopard 1.

So don't let the Chi-Ri put you off, the STA is good.

Interesting the way that the STB-1 has the same role, as Leopard 1, comes into the game later as is clearly an improvement. It's almost as if WG does it on purpose to make players grind through new tanks to overcome powercreep. I have the AMX 30 prototype at tier IX (a very recent addition) and again it is an improvement on the Type 61 and the Leopard PTA. I have yet to get the AMX 30 B but I am assuming it will be better than the STB-1.

British AT line is weird.
It shouldn't be as good as it is as they are sooo slow. But that armour is so effective, wiggle when reloading to avoid getting the weakspot hit, always drive directly, and often via the shortest route to the enemy, and you can hardly go wrong in them, the guns fire so rapidly.
AT7 was in fact so OP that Patch 9.8 nerfed it's aim time from 2.1 to 2.3 and it's reload time from 5.8 to 6.2. Nonetheless it is still good, just before it was OP. I bought the AT15A (tier VII premium) as a crew trainer, not really expecting very much from it, but it has preferrential MM, and so is hilarious. I sold the AT7. I am working through the AT15 (tier VIII), which plays very similar to the AT7, and again oddly works. If you get a Himmelsdorf match, it's completely OP on the bananna road.

 

[RC Mike]

How are you guys liking the Mac wrapper? CodeWeavers has done a nice job on it. I've been using the OMC mod pack config through WINE, which is pretty easy to do.

 

[Huntn]

Japanese Mediums;
Chi-Nu = tier VI not a bad tank, maybe third best in tier
Chi-Ri = Horrible. Tier VII, too big (no camo either), too slow, and appalling pene on normal round, and hardly better on premium round. Good alpha if it can pene, so will bully tiers V & VI, struggles versus other VIIs, is weak vs tier VIII and is completely useless and a waste of space vs tier IX. A tank to be struggled through and then sold.
STA = a recent tier VIII and as a consequence more powerful than most of the orginial nations VIIIs once elite. Excellent gun, and gun handling, decent gun depression. A bit slow even with the top engine, turret a bit too weak, but mantlet is strong and gets decent bounces. A ridge fighter. Does all the M26 Pershing did in 2011/2012 but better. A good solid tier VIII medium.
Type 61 = has the NATO L7 gun so hits hard. Gun handling can be a bit lacking for a ridge sniper, you may want to use food instead of AFE once all modules are researched. Good gun depression, but the tumour on top is obvious weakspot. Same role as M46 Patton and Centurion 7/1, just better than both of those due to dpm.
STB-1 = god like dpm. Best distant/view range sniper of the tier X mediums. Usurps previous best the Leopard 1.

So don't let the Chi-Ri put you off, the STA is good.

Interesting the way that the STB-1 has the same role, as Leopard 1, comes into the game later as is clearly an improvement. It's almost as if WG does it on purpose to make players grind through new tanks to overcome powercreep. I have the AMX 30 prototype at tier IX (a very recent addition) and again it is an improvement on the Type 61 and the Leopard PTA. I have yet to get the AMX 30 B but I am assuming it will be better than the STB-1.

British AT line is weird.
It shouldn't be as good as it is as they are sooo slow. But that armour is so effective, wiggle when reloading to avoid getting the weakspot hit, always drive directly, and often via the shortest route to the enemy, and you can hardly go wrong in them, the guns fire so rapidly.
AT7 was in fact so OP that Patch 9.8 nerfed it's aim time from 2.1 to 2.3 and it's reload time from 5.8 to 6.2. Nonetheless it is still good, just before it was OP. I bought the AT15A (tier VII premium) as a crew trainer, not really expecting very much from it, but it has preferrential MM, and so is hilarious. I sold the AT7. I am working through the AT15 (tier VIII), which plays very similar to the AT7, and again oddly works. If you get a Himmelsdorf match, it's completely OP on the bananna road.

Thanks for the input on the Jap tanks. I've really been dissatisfied with the line trying to advance beyond the Chi-Ri. Lately I have been distracted did not play WOT over the weekend. I played ARK Survival Evolved... This has turned out to be an amazing sandbox.

How are you guys liking the Mac wrapper? CodeWeavers has done a nice job on it. I've been using the OMC mod pack config through WINE, which is pretty easy to do.

I'm playing the game via Window7/Bootcamp when on my Laptop, trying to eek the most FPS out of Mac.

 

[ArthurWellsley]

How are you guys liking the Mac wrapper? CodeWeavers has done a nice job on it. I've been using the OMC mod pack config through WINE, which is pretty easy to do.

No same as Huntn, I play using Bootcamp/Windows 7, and use OMC mod pack config through that as well. What Mac are you using Mike, and what fps do you get with it?

 

[RC Mike]

I've got a 2012 Mac Pro. In terms of game performance, it's likely similar to any recent Mac with a GPU. 45-60ish fps with at 2550x1440 on high-ish setting. If you haven't tried the wrapper, it's worth doing. Much more convenient than Boot Camp.

The wrapper for WoWS isn't public yet, but the performance on that has been quite good, too.

 

[Huntn]

I've got a 2012 Mac Pro. In terms of game performance, it's likely similar to any recent Mac with a GPU. 45-60ish fps with at 2550x1440 on high-ish setting. If you haven't tried the wrapper, it's worth doing. Much more convenient than Boot Camp.

The wrapper for WoWS isn't public yet, but the performance on that has been quite good, too.

A side by side FPS comparison would be of high interest!

 

[RC Mike]

If it interests you, I'd encourage you to do it. You'll have to run it in a training room to really do it properly.

 

[SandboxGeneral]

I've played this game a little bit a long time ago on the Xbox 360. Today I installed it on the X51 R3 and have been playing it for a few hours.

Between WoT and AW, I think I like WoT a little bit better. The game play is more simple and I like the feel of it.

 

[Huntn]

I've played this game a little bit a long time ago on the Xbox 360. Today I installed it on the X51 R3 and have been playing it for a few hours.

Between WoT and AW, I think I like WoT a little bit better. The game play is more simple and I like the feel of it.

I've not played the Xbox version of WoT, but having played both games on PC, I believe two reasons why WoT is easier is because the maps are smaller with well defined features. AW seems more realistic and consequently it feels easier to be exposed, and the tanks feel more real in AW although they both have identical tank controls. I admit that in WoT for almost every map, I know exactly where to go while in AW I'm much more insecure. And AW PVE missions are relatively easy compared to playing real people.

 

[SandboxGeneral]

I've not played the Xbox version of WoT, but having played both games on PC, I believe two reasons why WoT is easier is because the maps are smaller with well defined features. AW seems more realistic and consequently it feels easier to be exposed, and the tanks feel more real in AW although they both have identical tank controls. I admit that in WoT for almost every map, I know exactly where to go while in AW I'm much more insecure. And AW PVE missions are relatively easy compared to playing real people.

Game play on the Xbox and the PC feel essentially the same as the maps and tanks are all identical. The only real difference would be the controller, obviously, compared to the keyboard and mouse.

I do prefer a keyboard and mouse when gaming over a controller, but that's just me.

I agree about the realism in AW and the feeling of being more exposed compared to WoT. I feel like that WoT is slightly less complicated with the various options and configurations it has and I kind of like that. I like games that are relatively simple and easy to use these days.

 

[garnerx]

Reinstalled this at the weekend after almost two years away. I think I could probably get back into it.

I tried Armored Warfare but it's basically the same thing except with me starting from scratch, which wasn't so appealing so I gave up pretty quickly. WoT has a nicer interface and the setup with all the different nations and tech trees seems to give it a bit more authority in my eyes.

They've added Skoda tanks (no thank you) and transformed my old T57 artillery into some boxy piece of junk in the name of authenticity. I'd paid for camo and crew training on the T57, had some good games in that. The constant rebalancing / nerfing is one of the things that drove me away in the first place.

Performance is loads better than it was when I used to play. There seems to be a lot more detail in the graphics - better tank models, much more grass - but it hasn't ever dropped below 60 fps in any of the games I've played so far. It was rare that it would stay that stable two years ago.

Haven't had any massively unbalanced matches yet (the other thing that made me quit) but I can't imagine I'll ever reach the tier 9 tank destroyers I was grinding for back then.

 

[Huntn]

Reinstalled this at the weekend after almost two years away. I think I could probably get back into it.

I tried Armored Warfare but it's basically the same thing except with me starting from scratch, which wasn't so appealing so I gave up pretty quickly. WoT has a nicer interface and the setup with all the different nations and tech trees seems to give it a bit more authority in my eyes.

They've added Skoda tanks (no thank you) and transformed my old T57 artillery into some boxy piece of junk in the name of authenticity. I'd paid for camo and crew training on the T57, had some good games in that. The constant rebalancing / nerfing is one of the things that drove me away in the first place.

Performance is loads better than it was when I used to play. There seems to be a lot more detail in the graphics - better tank models, much more grass - but it hasn't ever dropped below 60 fps in any of the games I've played so far. It was rare that it would stay that stable two years ago.

Haven't had any massively unbalanced matches yet (the other thing that made me quit) but I can't imagine I'll ever reach the tier 9 tank destroyers I was grinding for back then.

I think one big advantage of AW is that light tanks are a much bigger threat and all tanks are much more mobile. The disadvantage is that the main battle tanks from L1-L6 mostly. feel the same.

 

[Huntn]

Interesting. Today I sold my Chinese Type 58 tank with the intention of purchasing a Chinese IS2. I have plenty of credits, and I have garage slots, it shows the tank is unlocked with a price of approx 1.4M credits, but when I select purchase, the purchase window pops up as usual, with all the details, but the two buttons at the bottom of the window, as I recall "buy" and "cancel" are both blank! I've quit and restarted the game, I've changed servers. Anyone else seeing this? I can't buy this tank...
Helpful suggestions or thoughts? Thanks!

Update: XVM needed an update which prevented the purchase for some reason....

Armored Warfare remains a much prettier and more tactically challenging, but WoT has more distinction in tank models and performance, and it's smaller battlefields make for tactically simpler situations.

 

[hiddenmarkov]

did wargaming lose the russian biases yet and russian tanks win and german tanks take crits and get set on fire if you just yell harsh language at them?

Tier 9 and 10 german when I left. First thing I noticed on US line start before I left....my tanks stopped going on fire every time I got hit.

 

[ArthurWellsley]

did wargaming lose the russian biases yet and russian tanks win and german tanks take crits and get set on fire if you just yell harsh language at them?

Tier 9 and 10 german when I left. First thing I noticed on US line start before I left....my tanks stopped going on fire every time I got hit.

The German tanks have had their internal modules rearranged and so are now less likely to burn. The tier IX heavy e75 is one of the best balanced tier IXs available, and the medium e50 at tier IX is excellent once elite, but a bit of a dog without the top modules (gun, engine, tracks). Present OP tanks are the two Czech top tier mediums.