Wonder how that will work for people like me that have an US iCloud account but a German AppleID for the Store
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App Store to Be 'Split in Two' Ahead of EU iPhone Sideloading Deadline
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Yeah, I still dont get it. Apple built the playground. People decide to play on it. But then they want to change it. I am all for government putting in safety regulations (like seat belts in cars), but eh, don't want them telling businesses how to run their business.
The computer analogy doesnt hold water. It was designed back in the days when privacy meant shutting our doors, or shredding our mail when we through it out. That genie is out of the bottle. Apple didnt make that mistake with the iPhone or iPads and built a business around security. Sure they make money from it, it's a for profit organization, but it distinguishes them from google who mines your private life to sell. That's called choice. I chose privacy. You can choose cheaper if you want.
and the argument this doesnt hurt you if you don't side load doesnt convince me either. Right now, companies play nice (most of them) on the App Store, and that helps fund future hardware and software that we all enjoy and benefit from, including third parties. But no one thinks of that, they think of what pennies they can save if they move out of the App Store to go sideload. So now I get less chance, and my platform of choice is less supported. R&D is paid for by real money.
People are thinking short term, not long. Especially elected officials, when did they ever think long term????
The computer analogy doesnt hold water. It was designed back in the days when privacy meant shutting our doors, or shredding our mail when we through it out. That genie is out of the bottle. Apple didnt make that mistake with the iPhone or iPads and built a business around security. Sure they make money from it, it's a for profit organization, but it distinguishes them from google who mines your private life to sell. That's called choice. I chose privacy. You can choose cheaper if you want.
and the argument this doesnt hurt you if you don't side load doesnt convince me either. Right now, companies play nice (most of them) on the App Store, and that helps fund future hardware and software that we all enjoy and benefit from, including third parties. But no one thinks of that, they think of what pennies they can save if they move out of the App Store to go sideload. So now I get less chance, and my platform of choice is less supported. R&D is paid for by real money.
People are thinking short term, not long. Especially elected officials, when did they ever think long term????
Everyone that is for this should not be using an iPhone - you can do all this on android. Oh right, you want to eat your cake too
I'll support what I want, for whatever reasons I want. I support this, and will continue using my iPhone.
Thank you.
Right, I’m sure the self-sufficient local economy would be great.
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Imagine being able to buy Kirkland Signature brand (i.e. Costco's private label) products from Walmart.
Kirkland Signature Food - Walmart.com
Shop for Kirkland Signature Food in Home Page at Walmart and save.
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So you don’t want a government telling you what to buy, but you want a company to tell you what to install? 😀
Imagine being able to buy Kirkland Signature brand (i.e. Costco's private label) products from Walmart.
Kirkland Signature Food - Walmart.com
Shop for Kirkland Signature Food in Home Page at Walmart and save.www.walmart.com
I can buy Kirkland signature products from Amazon, too.
Oh look, I can buy Sam's club private label (Member's Mark) products on Amazon, too.
if you wanted a more accurate analogy, it would be that once you buy something from Walmart you're not allowed to leave.
If this is creating security holes, then Apple’s app sandboxing is buggy and flawed.
Except thats NOT how McDonald's are set up as a business. Heck they dont even allow Girl Scouts to sell cookies there (in general). They certainly would never allow Krispy Kreme to set up shop inside their restaurant. For all those that hated the previous McDonald's analogy, you really going too support this analogy? Sure you will, because people aren't voting with logic, just what they want.
If I were Apple, not that they've called me to ask for my opinion, I'd create the "EU App Store" and then abandon it.
Like Apple refuses to support phones with beta software on (betas of their own OS) until one removes the beta, they could demand all apps from the "EU Store" are removed before support is offered.
Maybe rather: “If you have an iPhone, all music you listen to with it must be bought through iTunes. We only allow wholesome lyrics. Oh and we don’t like Jazz so there won’t be any.”
You don't think the EU has thought of this? They are going to make Apple keep the same warranty, and not retaliate, against companies or the consumer.
Apple has lost this war, and they know it.
You literally just took the only walled garden choice away you reduced choice not increased it totally selfish
if you don't see that you need your eyes testing.
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you do know they do this right? Walmart? oh not tide, but they do set up exclusive contracts to squeeze smaller vendors. happens all the time. Walmart does not play nice, but people support them in the name of cheaper prices. Then wonder why local shops are put out business. oops.
I know that they do, same with grocery stores (father was a high-up manager at Kroger).
I won't shop at Wal-Mart, personally.
Of course you can leave. There’s another all in one service, an even more commonly used service, you can go to.
I don’t think that is going to change. Apple still controls what software can run and what it can do.
I hope I’m wrong. But I won’t believe it until I see an emulator running on a non-jailbroken iPhone.
I do wonder how it will work. Would it be enough to switch my Apple account to the US to keep away from this EU idiocracy? Or do I need to import my next iPhone from the US entirely?
Except macOS and Windows (two prominent OSes that allow side-loading) are extremely vulnerable to malware. Apple’s “solution” in macOS is to block apps from “unknown” developers by default, and/or require apps to ask for permission to install. I think either Jason Snell or Jonathan Gruber (maybe both) have written that all the requests for permission have worsened the overall UI of macOS. And Windows’ vulnerabilities spawned an entire industry of “anti-malware” software of dubious effectiveness. True, Apple’s record of screening apps isn’t perfect, but it’s a lot easier to infect a Mac, Windows PC, or Android device with a link in an email or message than an iPhone or iPad.
Actually can’t wait for this to happen. It will be fun telling European customers who use a third party app store or side load that they are on their own if they have issues. Not Apple’s problem if that app misbehaves or you can’t get a refund, or claim you didn't subscribe to anything but were billed anyway. If you kid runs up your in-game purchases, too bad so sad, deal with the developer, not Apple’s problem.
Let the fun begin in European support forums!
Of course there will instant conspiracy theories about Apple nefariously crippling third party apps bought outside its own App Store. That’s how the Apple detractors think.
Let the fun begin in European support forums!
Of course there will instant conspiracy theories about Apple nefariously crippling third party apps bought outside its own App Store. That’s how the Apple detractors think.