So are the cars these stalkers use being sued because they transported the stalker?
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California AirTag Lawsuit Widened to Include Dozens More Stalking Cases
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that's not how it works. you only get the "airtag travelling with you" notification if the airtag that is following you does not have the owners iphone within range of the airtag. so if you were commuting with someone with their own airtag on their keys and they have their iphone on them it would not trigger the alert on the other people's phones in the train. it does not use any type of "home" address.
Unfortunately by going the extra mile and making a song and dance about adding anti-stalking measures and enhancing them over time (unlike the competition), it unfortunately shows that Apple was well aware of the nefarious uses some individuals would use Airtags for.
If they had been simply sold as "anti-theft" tracking devices, and ignored the fact they "might" be used for stalking there also might not be a lawsuit.
If they had been simply sold as "anti-theft" tracking devices, and ignored the fact they "might" be used for stalking there also might not be a lawsuit.
Person uses tech that stalkers can easily use to stalk them. Person gets stalked. Person blames Apple, because person can not accept responsibility of their own actions. Lawyers rejoice.
Life.
Life.
"Victims".
Yes they did. And it's no different.
If you drop a hot McNugget on your nugget, you'll probably get a laugh out of 80% of the readers of this thread. Humor heals. Well, it heals everything but nuggets, I'm pretty sure...
It was coffee. That stuff is hotter than a nuclear reactor. Was.
And McNuggets cause brain damage. Or was it obesity? I don't remember which...
This could be a haiku. Let's workshop this. Worst case scenario, we end up with a limerick about a McCafe, McNugget, and McHotApplePie walking into a bar. I feel a new Mickey D's ad campaign coming on!There was both a hot coffee lawsuit and one recently for a chicken nugget
$800,000 awarded to family of girl burned by McDonald's chicken nugget, Florida jury rules
A jury in Florida has ruled that McDonald's must pay $800,000 in damages to the family of a girl that who was allegedly burned by chicken nuggets.www.usatoday.com
Restraining orders aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
Often, they target an innocent person, potentially resulting in the loss of their 1st, 2nd, and 4th Amendment rights WITHOUT Due Process (if in the US). And on the rare occasion when they do target a dangerous person, they are just ignored and violated because...really...that person should probably be in prison anyway for a number of other, un-prosecuted, crimes.
It would be more fun to hide a 3-day old fish in the vehicle. Talk about an olfactory bedlam!
Yes, "Florida Man" is one of them. But Florida only gets a bad name because we have open records, and so we release all that info to the press whenever one of us lets his or her freak flag fly. Fun times!
The same could be said of alcohol and automotive manufactures, drunk driving kills quite a few innocent people; heck why not throw knife manufacturers in for good measure as well. 🤦♂️
As they should be.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Guns are only one of many tools.
Precisely because there’s a lot of money for the lawyers who file a large class action lawsuit. Smaller class action lawsuits (for instance, at a single location employer) typically have higher per capita settlements (and lower attorney fees). So the business model for a certain category of law firm is to cast as wide a net as possible and recruit as many class members as possible. Why else do you think they advertise mesothelioma lawsuits on TV?
Which tech does the stalked person have to use to enable the stalker? Hint: None!
other companies don't have money, lawyers target companies with lot of money so that they can make more money.
I am not against 2nd amendment, and don't want to turn this into political discussion either.
Apple should probably use the same defense that gun manufacturers and 2nd amendment supporters use.
Apple should say this device is useful, but some people are stupid and misuse this item.
Apple should probably use the same defense that gun manufacturers and 2nd amendment supporters use.
Apple should say this device is useful, but some people are stupid and misuse this item.
So apple should lock the phone while driving so that people don't txt and drive or take calls when driving ?
if a person got into an accident while watching directions on phone while driving that is apple's fault ?
My Comcast modem has a feature that is auto enabled to communicate with Tile trackers. I turned it off since discovering it. If Comcast hardware is going to support something like this I imagine there are other things out there that allow Tile to call back home.
I think this speaks in Apple’s defense. No company should be arrogant enough to assume they can predict all the ways their technology would be abused.
Like others I have very mixed feelings about this case. I empathize strongly with survivors of stalking and abuse, but the fact is that GPS trackers, built deliberately without any protections, have been available for decades now and have yet to be targeted like this. All Apple did was sell trackers with a legitimate purpose and try to build in safeguards. I suppose we can argue about the quality of the safeguards just as will be done in court.
But ought to be clear to everyone is that the lawyers are just following the money which Apple has in spades. It’d be great to see those sketchy websites selling GPS trackers and shady “nanny cams” get what is coming to them.
Except gun manufacturers are the only entities that enjoy such broad immunity. Literally everything else—cars, knives, bikes, pharmaceuticals, appliances—can form the basis for liability in tort for things like design or manufacturing defects and failure to warn.
...what? People can—and do, constantly—sue alcohol companies and car manufacturers for negligence and products liability.
You're alluding to a "gun show loophole". It's not a thing.
Gun Shows have background checks. They do. You must fill out Form 4473 and pass the background check to get a firearm. People who sell firearms at gun shows are always being checked up on by undercover cops and feds, and they'll lose their license fast if they break the law. They could go to jail, too.
lf you think I'm lying or mistaken, just try to buy one at a gun show near you, and see what happens when you ask the seller to skip the background check. If you're lucky, you'll ONLY be escorted out by armed security. Or see what will happen if you FAIL the background check because you're on drugs or would otherwise be deemed a "prohibited possessor". Oh, and be sure to tell your wife that you won't be home for dinner. Or the weekend. And probably not 'till after your court date.
Yes. The seller, if he doesn't want to lose his license, will ensure that Form 4473 is filled out and that the background check is not only completed, but comes back with no flags or restrictions.
Some gun manufacturers contribute to campaigns, yes. But then so do you and so do I. And ALL OF US must follow campaign contribution law. Just making a contribution to a campaign is not the same as making an "effort to skirt laws". Saying it is is just more gaslighting and conflation.
I don't disagree with any of this. See, we CAN agree on some things.
I don't know why, but this made me laugh. Am I going to hell for that?
In case you didn't know, 30% to 50% of us have firearms at home, here in the US. That's up to 150 million people; probably more.
I say YES to this.
If everybody who could carry (mentally, emotionally, legally, and physically, that is) actually DID carry, there would be a lot fewer victims. This is undeniable.
You are your own first-responder. Or not. That's a choice.
That because tiles network is not that great plus it does not update nearly as quickly or as often. I have left my wallet with a tile in it before in my 7 store office building over a weekend where I left a little early on friday and came in late on monday. I knew my wallet was in the office. Last update it recieved on its location was 10am on a Friday morning the next update was from me opening the app Monday when I got in. This is in a building with nearly 1k people working in it and 150 people on my floor every day yet no updates.
Air tags on the other had update all the time and with even fewer people around. For example look at people tracking their loss luggage or even following their luggage on the tarmat to the plan. Tile can not do that.
It is the level of acceracy and easy of air tags that make it work. Hell you can easily track a non iphone user because of Apples network.
There was both a hot coffee lawsuit and one recently for a chicken nugget
$800,000 awarded to family of girl burned by McDonald's chicken nugget, Florida jury rules
A jury in Florida has ruled that McDonald's must pay $800,000 in damages to the family of a girl that who was allegedly burned by chicken nuggets.www.usatoday.com
The hot coffee story actual has some merit as they were keeping the coffee at an extremely hot, unreasonable temperature, and the woman sued for medical expenses.
This family wanted $15 million. That's ridiculous. Even if it's justified the damages awarded were extreme.
Because Apple tracker makes it a little to easy to track someone else. It basically saying Apple needs to make it easier for someone to find a air tag tracking you and make it easier for the person being stalked to disable them. I would go farther as also make it easier to track back to who the owner of the tag is.
I think that is a given. Air tags are by far better than the other tracker manufactures. Tile which I would say is 2nd best of these trackers updates like crap as in it never update last known location even being all day in an huge office and that is with my phone running the tile app much less anyone else.
They are wrong as well but at the same time companies like Apple should take some responsbility for making it a little to easy and help provide tools to stop the tracking plus be able to hand those people over to police.
Apple built-in protection needs some massive improvements. This include being able to disable them or even make it easier to track back to who the owner of the tags are.
They might be in just as much trouble there. The anti-theft comes with other things to help prevent tracking someone else. Generally go threw a 3rd party and they tend to be a little more careful. Even ones that put it on construction equipment it is not so much for theift but so they can track their own equipment. You will be surprised at hoe often a million dollar piece of equipment just get lost. Lost in the yard, lost because it went to a job site and was not loaded back up when they left and they forgotten about. Trailors that just get misplaced and so on.
Maybe Canon or Sony should also be sued for developing zoom lenses used by voyeurs.
The flaw with this is that it would make it easier for a thief to disable the AirTag tracking on a stolen item. As with most things in society, it’s a trade off.