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Time to accelerate plans to move the assembly of Apple products out of China.
So, they must use Android. Which is… US technology…=with more privacy leakage and more susceptible to hacking
Okay China
Okay China
It's not like iPhone is totally banned in China. Just government employees for government work. The rest of the population can still use them.
You can tell some people are bitter without ever meeting them
China doesn't need root access when they have control of Apple's data centers and easy access to user data
Apple’s Compromises in China: 5 Takeaways (Published 2021)
To stay on the good side of the Chinese authorities, the company has made decisions that contradict its carefully curated image.www.nytimes.com
Over two decades, Apple built the world’s most valuable company on top of China. It now assembles nearly all of its products in the country and generates a fifth of its sales there. In turn, the Chinese government has pressured Apple executives to make compromises that flout the values they espouse.
An investigation by The New York Times revealed how Apple has risked its Chinese customers’ data and aided the Chinese government’s censorship. Here are five takeaways:
- Apple stores customer data on Chinese government servers.
- Apple now shares customer data with the Chinese government.
- Apple proactively removes apps to placate Chinese officials.
- Apple banned apps from a Communist Party critic.
- Tens of thousands of iPhone apps have disappeared in China.
iPhone may be secure. But customer data is not.
If Chinese users do not back up their data on iCloud, does it mean the Chinese government cannot track their activities?
Privacy™. That's China.
Did you type that on your Apple device?
You say that now, but imagine if manufacturing was moved to the lazy-worker American region and prices went way up. Then you'd complain about that?
I see two reasons for that
(1) is to balance Huawei ban
(2) is to effectively protect against information leaking to USA
(1) is a bit desperate, but not completely unfair
(2) is probably reasonable for two reasons: (a) China gvt knows how easy it is to put spyware in a mobile device as they do it, and (b) USA corporations even made it a business model to syphon user's data (in particular Google and Facebook but fearing the same from Apple when seen from China is not baseless)
(1) is to balance Huawei ban
(2) is to effectively protect against information leaking to USA
(1) is a bit desperate, but not completely unfair
(2) is probably reasonable for two reasons: (a) China gvt knows how easy it is to put spyware in a mobile device as they do it, and (b) USA corporations even made it a business model to syphon user's data (in particular Google and Facebook but fearing the same from Apple when seen from China is not baseless)
I can understand the sentiment, but are you willing to pay $2000 for you Made in USA iPhone? If so, how many other people do you think are in the same boat? Enough to meet Apple's sales targets?
I'm not sure why this comment has the reactions it does. It's a valid fear. Are people upset at the notion that their Apple devices might not be as privacy respecting as Apple claims? Is so, folks, please don't. We lost that fight a long time ago.
Well, the Chinese economy isn't in the best of shape these days anyway. There's a lot of underlying issues in China that the CCP is trying to keep under wraps, but cracks are starting to show.
China and the West are kinda like a married couple that is still living together, going to things together, and eating together. But one or the other is just waiting for the right opportunity to file the divorce papers. It's coming, but no one is quite ready to put an end to it just yet.
The mistress is Russia. China has been warming up to that side piece for a while. Keeping Vald on the line long enough to suck as much cheap energy out of Eurasia's gas station as possible.
China and the West are kinda like a married couple that is still living together, going to things together, and eating together. But one or the other is just waiting for the right opportunity to file the divorce papers. It's coming, but no one is quite ready to put an end to it just yet.
The mistress is Russia. China has been warming up to that side piece for a while. Keeping Vald on the line long enough to suck as much cheap energy out of Eurasia's gas station as possible.
I had a weird dream earlier this year that the US government announced that they had discovered China had added microscopic cameras on every product made and exported for decades. We were told to toss everything and prepare for a possible invasion.
I stopped drinking whiskey before bed after that one
India is fast becoming Apple’s largest market so any Chinese sales reductions will be offset India sales growth.
Wall Street likes to manipulate the stock and play dumb allowing large investors a dip.
Wall Street likes to manipulate the stock and play dumb allowing large investors a dip.
Actually, it really has nothing to do with USA / China relations. It has more to do with China retaliating against Apple for moving manufacturing out of China.
Interesting. My take is the same on this, however from my angle the left is a cult for apple and the right sees it as the crowning jewel of corporate and personal hypocrisy. not at all trying to dispute or debate, just commenting on the truths we cling to depend greatly on a certain point of view.
If Apple threatened to move all manufacturing out of the country, China would instantly reverse course and start handing out free iPhones to every government employee.
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All those Chinese workers will do is just buy a cheap Android to use it at work and continue using their iPhone for personal, meaningful experiences. Cheap Androids are a dime a dozen and we live in a world where people can easily have 3 phones. They can just tell the government to pay for their wireless plan on their iPhone. No one in their right mind is gonna give up a perfectly good iPhone. This is just China playing a game.
China’s government is pathetic. Not that our current government in the US is any better.
This is despicable by Apple. 😕China doesn't need root access when they have control of Apple's data centers and easy access to user data
Apple’s Compromises in China: 5 Takeaways (Published 2021)
To stay on the good side of the Chinese authorities, the company has made decisions that contradict its carefully curated image.
Over two decades, Apple built the world’s most valuable company on top of China. It now assembles nearly all of its products in the country and generates a fifth of its sales there. In turn, the Chinese government has pressured Apple executives to make compromises that flout the values they espouse.
An investigation by The New York Times revealed how Apple has risked its Chinese customers’ data and aided the Chinese government’s censorship. Here are five takeaways:
- Apple stores customer data on Chinese government servers.
- Apple now shares customer data with the Chinese government.
- Apple proactively removes apps to placate Chinese officials.
- Apple banned apps from a Communist Party critic.
- Tens of thousands of iPhone apps have disappeared in China.
iPhone may be secure. But customer data is not.