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Microsoft Office 2007
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mkrishnan said:The next Office is coming out for MacOS too... out of curiosity, why do you want to run it in Vista?
EDIT: Somehow, I find the palettes much more appealing than this, though...
I work in a graphic arts firm that often has to create presentations for our clients. We design on the Mac, but due to inconsistencies in PC PowerPoint versus Mac PowerPoint, we only create the graphics in OS X, then import them into a PC PowerPoint application to create it. Too many funky issues if we don't.
brunkster said:
That's definitely understandable... recently, I actually even had a minor issue with Word (where a document that had a number of sub-documents, and was about 60 pages in overall length, came out one page different in length when opened on Windows, and, for stupid reasons, this couldn't fly). It's rare that there are Word issues, and I've never heard of Excel issues.
But I am very wary of using Powerpoint files made on one platform on the other platform.
Never played around with the make movie feature in PowerPoint 2004, but I would like it to become a little more like the keynote version with the option of Interactive Movie or Self Playing. This must also be implemented on the Windows version, even if Microsoft eventually insist on mov for Mac and wmv for Windows.
To me this is what makes Keynote a great app. Once the presentation is complete you have a few options:
1. Keep it as a keynote presentation and hope there is a Mac available with Keynote.
2. Save it as a PowerPoint presentation and hope that it doesn't get formatted to lose any 3D transitions.
3. Save as Quicktime and have nearly no compatibility issues with pretty much any platform.
To me this is what makes Keynote a great app. Once the presentation is complete you have a few options:
1. Keep it as a keynote presentation and hope there is a Mac available with Keynote.
2. Save it as a PowerPoint presentation and hope that it doesn't get formatted to lose any 3D transitions.
3. Save as Quicktime and have nearly no compatibility issues with pretty much any platform.
in truth, i will probably never use this, so really, i do think it is ugly but then again, its microsoft so... i don't care by the time this comes out i will have left school meaning i will have no need to go on a PC... also, the school would never get the latest software... only just got office 2003....
by the time this comes out i will have left school meaning i will have no need to go on a PC... also, the school would never get the latest software... only just got office 2003....People don't waste your money on it. Microsoft Office any version is a POS app that deserves nothing. Office and its variants cause more headaches in my world (graphic arts) then another application. I refuse to gave MS money because their apps are a pain in the ass to to use and get what you want out of them. After I wasted the company money on Office 98 for Mac, never again will I use MS products. If you must have compatability with Office stuff, use NeoOffice. It works fine, esspecially on newer Macs. It is Office that has created this attitude of "I can create that". Yea right, overburden the user with a zillion options and confusing interface, that is MS's way of doing things.
If you're a heavy user of Excel, you might like to know that Excel 2007 will have 1 million rows and 16k columns, a massive upgrade in spreadsheet space. There will be other small changes as well, not all cosmetic. Most Excel users, however, will not need or care about them. Excel 2007 will also introduce a new file format. These larger spreadsheet might not be backwards compatable, so files might not be saved with a XLS extension as the default option. For now I'm good with Excel 2003, not sure if I'd like the ribbon.
I've actually been using a copy of Office 2007 for the past few months now, and I actually like it.
There are a lot of improvements over the previous version. Once you get used to the layout you'll actually realize that there is much less clicking involved to do many tasks, and the navigation is much simpler.
I also like the way they were able to make an interface where you can still have all the toolbars you'd want, but they would take up much less space. For example in Word on my 22" monitor, with all the toolbars I needed showing, I wasn't able to see the whole document on the screen. Now on the same zoom with the same toolbars I can.
Another useful feature that I've used a lot is the option to save as a PDF. I'm not sure why it took them so long to implement this feature.
So basically there are some new features that are nice, but the best improvement to me is the speed. The whole office suite just feels a lot snappier.
There are a lot of improvements over the previous version. Once you get used to the layout you'll actually realize that there is much less clicking involved to do many tasks, and the navigation is much simpler.
I also like the way they were able to make an interface where you can still have all the toolbars you'd want, but they would take up much less space. For example in Word on my 22" monitor, with all the toolbars I needed showing, I wasn't able to see the whole document on the screen. Now on the same zoom with the same toolbars I can.
Another useful feature that I've used a lot is the option to save as a PDF. I'm not sure why it took them so long to implement this feature.
So basically there are some new features that are nice, but the best improvement to me is the speed. The whole office suite just feels a lot snappier.
AvSRoCkCO1067 said:
this is sorta what i expected. an overly shiny eye candy interface surrounded by more fluff. i used to call these sort of things ugly, but that implies that microsoft has ever made something that was anything but ugly. impossible i know
DaveTheRave said:
Wow, finally. It's about time that the most popular data processing application can handle more than 65536 rows and columns
Will office 2004 have a universal binary or just office 2007?
Of course I'm still on v.X, which I'm very happy with. But I will spring for iWork later this year just to check it out.
Of course I'm still on v.X, which I'm very happy with. But I will spring for iWork later this year just to check it out.
ITASOR said:
How do you go about getting a copy of a beta version of Vista? I would like to check it out.
brunkster said:
I always have that problem with PowerPoint at school... it never shows images right (says something about quicktime). That's why I run a WINE-emulated version of Office 2003 on my Linux box and use 2003 viewer at school.
mkrishnan said:The next Office is coming out for MacOS too... out of curiosity, why do you want to run it in Vista?
EDIT: Somehow, I find the palettes much more appealing than this, though...
When it comes to VBA programming I prefer the Windows version. Plus you have support for ActiveX controls and a broader object library to work with.
calyxman said:
That's a good point.... Mmmm, I hope that parallels gets a lot better for you, or WINE or something else picks up where Parallels left off, and you'll be running Windows Office on top of MacOS next year!
Chundles said:
Office 2007 and the next version of Office:Mac will not be a simultaneous release.
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As someone who used to work for Microsoft delivering technical support for Excel, let me state the following:JFreak said:Wow, finally. It's about time that the most popular data processing application can handle more than 65536 rows and columns
Excel is NOT a "data processing application". It's a spreadsheet application. If you want data processing, get Access, FoxPro, or SQL Server, or some other database application (like Oracle).
Personally, I'm against going to 1M rows and 16K columns... for starters, this will break backwards compatibility with older versions of Excel. Secondly, how are cell references going to look when there are THAT many columns and rows? Assuming that 16K = 16384 and that 1M = 1,000,000, the bottom-rightmost cell in a worksheet would have an address of XFD1000000 (compare to the current value of IV65536).
Yikes.
(And nadyne is correct. The next version of Office specifically for the Mac will be Office 2008 or something.)
Ack! FrontPage! Microsoft should abolish both FrontPage and Publisher, two of the worst applications ever written. I can't think of any Web app that generates worse code than FrontPage (except maybe GoLive 5 or iWeb) and Publisher is the bane of any real graphic designer's or professional printer's existence.Piarco75 said:
FYI - from the MS Office for Mac website:
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Q. Will you re-release Office 2004 for Intel-based Macs?
A. No. There are no plans to re-release Office 2004. With Rosetta, Office 2004 runs well on Intel-based Macs.
Q. When will the next version of Office for Mac be available?
A. The next version of Office for Mac is under development, and we typically release a new version every two to three years. {continued}
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My commentary:
"Runs well": Yeah, right. Emulate *this* Bill Gates. (appropriate hand gesture)
"Two to Three Years": So a new version is under development now, which we can assume is Office '07, right? Maybe the Mac version of Office will be released four or five months after the PC/Vista version.
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Q. Will you re-release Office 2004 for Intel-based Macs?
A. No. There are no plans to re-release Office 2004. With Rosetta, Office 2004 runs well on Intel-based Macs.
Q. When will the next version of Office for Mac be available?
A. The next version of Office for Mac is under development, and we typically release a new version every two to three years. {continued}
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My commentary:
"Runs well": Yeah, right. Emulate *this* Bill Gates. (appropriate hand gesture)
"Two to Three Years": So a new version is under development now, which we can assume is Office '07, right? Maybe the Mac version of Office will be released four or five months after the PC/Vista version.