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Safari 17 issues on macOS 12.7 Monterey

msephton

msephton

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I've found that some websites are not working correctly* in Safari 17 on macOS 12.7.

* as intended, and as in other browsers including Safari 16

eg. Dropbox (or Apple Feedback Assistant website!)
  1. try to use the site
  2. very slow to load
  3. even slower to respond to interactions
  4. will eventually reload itself because of problems
  5. some page elements are laid out incorrectly
  6. clicking links does not work
Note: making my window smaller *might* improve matters, but it's hard to say definitively.


My "workaround" was to downgrade back to Safari 16 by reinstalling macOS 12.7 (12GB download) which puts you back on Safari 15.6.1 and then installing the separate 16.6.1 updater download (so, not via System Update).
 
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lancemcv1

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Same issue here, Firefox works fine. IT is happening with my Macbook Pro as well with old version of Safari so its not the update its something odd going on. You SHOULD NOT post your serial number online.
 
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msephton

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Somebody asked me if it could be an extension I'm using, eg. 1Blocker, etc. I'm using lots and didn't have time to disable each one so it was quicker for me to reinstall macOS overnight and it be ready to use in the morning.

Do you use any extensions?
 
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msephton said:
Somebody asked me if it could be an extension I'm using, eg. 1Blocker, etc. I'm using lots and didn't have time to disable each one so it was quicker for me to reinstall macOS overnight and it be ready to use in the morning.

Do you use any extensions?
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No it seemed to be some kind of Apple glitch as after resetting my router, taking it off the internet and back on Safari is now working as it should. It was weird because this was also happening on my old macbook pro 2012 running Catalina, Firefox was working but Safari was not, very strange.
 
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dhazeghi

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I made the mistake of upgrading to Safari 17 and macOS 12.7 at the same time, so I can't tell which is at fault, but:
-google (and many other sites) input fields show white text on a white background (unusable)
-CPU usage spikes across 4-8 cores scrolling on many forum websites such as XenForo (MBP M1 Pro) even when the website is cached

I'm not impressed. I really wanted to wait for 14.2 or 14.3 Sonoma before upgrading but I may have to bite the bullet.
 
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lancemcv1

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msephton said:
I'm sticking with Safari 16 until at least 17.2 or so is proven good.

And won't upgrade to Sonoma until macOS 14.2 or so.

It's just not worth it for me to destabilise my setup. My work is more important.

No feedback at all on the bug report I sent to Apple. Sadly all too typical.
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Safari has been normal since I did the reboot and reset the router routine but I hear yeah stability and dependability is more important than running the latest updates
 
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nmt1900

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Safari 17 is a big "issue" in itself. Apple was years behind in implementing multi-profile support in Safari - while Webkit-based Orion has it already.

For now Safari 17 profile handling is half-baked and incomplete "below-beta-level" feature at best while multi-profile support in Orion is comparable to one in Chromium-based browsers. Time will tell how long it takes for this feature to be usable - pace of Safari development and release cycle does not give too much reason to be overly optimistic...
 
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msephton said:
I've found that some websites are not working correctly* in Safari 17 on macOS 12.7.
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I have the same issue, safari is unusable. Its a first time I'm affected by apple shenanigans and sloppy work. Very disappointed. Especially that I can't do anything about it, as im in the middle of a project for weeks to come 😞😡
 
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MikB

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For me it went from no issues at all in macOS 13.6 and having certain web sites, not all, like duckduckgo graphically freeze after load so you cannot visibly click links, not scroll nor edit the search terms.

Reloading does not help, but if you keep clicking without visual feedback and go to a site, then go back again to duckduckgo, you can do everything.

Similar issues on other sites, though not that many.

I have tried without add-ons and it makes no difference.
 
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msephton

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I upgraded again to Safari 17 today (on 12.7) and all seems well.

Meanwhile I had removed some old userscripts from Tampermonkey, maybe they were causing the problem?
 
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tylerlovesapple said:
Again and again I will say and tell people if your system works the way you like it, stop upgrading. I miss the features they took away more than I want the new ones.
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I don't update Safari to get new features, I update Safari so that I don't get hacked.
WebKit CVE-2023-41993 "Apple is aware of a report that this issue may have been actively exploited"
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213941
For more of the same, search WebKit in the Known Exploited Vulnerabilities Catalog https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog
 
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Safari 17 works excellent on Monterey 12.7 via an OWC G3 500GB external drive on a MacBook Air M1 8gb.
I dont YouTube (sorry OP) or use anything google, misscosoft or news sites at all.
actually I find the speeds faster than Sonoma and more responsive.

I will install OCLP Monterey on a MBP_'12_'13 intel i7 today and see how safari and Monterey work on that.
/not to undermine anyone grievances, just because I am perform this upgrade.
 
msephton

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Yeah it's all going well for me now.

The only site that is slow on my setup is when typing comments on GitHub but I'm pretty sure it's a rogue UserScript or something on my side.
 
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svintuss

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I can confirm issues with Safari 17.1 on Monterey 12.7.1.
DuckDuckGo intermittently freezes and stops responding to scrolling.
 
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Engender

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Almost once a day, Safari 17.2 completely crashes. I reopen the app, and then, after a few minutes, Safari freezes. It's really annoying.
 
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Pecka

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I experience a few:

  • Scrolling stops working on certain pages
  • Address field search suggestions often doesn't work
  • Web page color effect in address bar doesn't change when switching tab groups
 
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