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jazz1

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Refurbs usually pop up on the Apple Certified Refurbished store like two months after release of the new models so I feel like the trade-ins are going there.
I hope that is the case. My spouse's old, old iPad's battery was failing. I paid Apple to put in a new battery. Instead Apple simply replaced it with another iPad that was a refurbished iPad with the same specs. We had the iPad replacement in our hands very quickly!
 

eltoslightfoot

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Lmfao if they can salvage a trade in and make money on it they will put it into refurbished.

Not everything is a conspiracy my dude lol
Wasn't there an article about how third parties were in fact destroying perfectly good units on behalf of Apple? So, it might be not be as crazy an idea as you think...
 

Dopestdude2

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Wasn't there an article about how third parties were in fact destroying perfectly good units on behalf of Apple? So, it might be not be as crazy an idea as you think...
Are they destroying every single one like he suggested or were they destroying ones that there cost benefit made no sense?

There’s a big difference.
 

erikkfi

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Are they destroying every single one like he suggested or were they destroying ones that there cost benefit made no sense?

There’s a big difference.

Quote: "Even if the iPhones looked good enough for resale, Apple Inc.’s contract with GEEP ... explicitly required that every product it sent be destroyed. In Apple’s view, these devices, the kind usually disposed of at its stores or collected from trade-ins when customers upgraded to a new model, were better off scrapped for their precious metals than refurbished."

For anyone who cares about the environment: don't trade your device in to Apple. They shred them.
 
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Quote: "Even if the iPhones looked good enough for resale, Apple Inc.’s contract with GEEP ... explicitly required that every product it sent be destroyed. In Apple’s view, these devices, the kind usually disposed of at its stores or collected from trade-ins when customers upgraded to a new model, were better off scrapped for their precious metals than refurbished."

For anyone who cares about the environment: don't trade your device in to Apple. They shred them.

It says every product sent, show me where that correlates to every single trade in Apple received? Because that reads as only the ones sent to the third party and not every single trade in like you insist. Additionally what I’m reading is Apple has that rule so that the third party doesn’t try to spin them off to refurbish themselves for a better profit than their Apple contract.

Also true that it only calls out iPhones and not iPads, good catch!
 
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eltoslightfoot

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It says every product sent, show me where that correlates to every single trade in Apple received? Because that reads as only the ones sent to the third party and not every single trade in like you insist. Additionally what I’m reading is Apple has that rule so that the third party doesn’t try to spin them off to refurbish themselves for a better profit than their Apple contract.

Also true that it only calls out iPhones and not iPads, good catch!
If you don't think that the aforementioned article at least partially damages your argument, then I guess I don't know what else to tell you. Given the secretive nature of all of this (it's in the article), we can't know the full extent. But given what we now know, it ain't good.
 

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If you don't think that the aforementioned article at least partially damages your argument, then I guess I don't know what else to tell you. Given the secretive nature of all of this (it's in the article), we can't know the full extent. But given what we now know, it ain't good.
Everything I asked is valid and is not disputed in anything he provided.
 
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Dopestdude2

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When someone trolls, I always use the form's ignore function so I don't have to see their posts again. I highly recommend it. Just hover over their name and click Ignore.
Yeah I’m trolling by disputing your comments? That’s something else man. Sorry I interrupted your desired echo chamber or dared to not agree with you.
 

Abazigal

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I hope that is the case. My spouse's old, old iPad's battery was failing. I paid Apple to put in a new battery. Instead Apple simply replaced it with another iPad that was a refurbished iPad with the same specs. We had the iPad replacement in our hands very quickly!
Yeah, Apple doesn't bother with replacing iPad batteries. They just replace the iPad outright. That's in part why the cost of an iPad battery replacement is so steep (almost the cost of a new iPad) unless you meet the very strict requirements.
 

scottwiz105

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Yeah, Apple doesn't bother with replacing iPad batteries. They just replace the iPad outright. That's in part why the cost of an iPad battery replacement is so steep (almost the cost of a new iPad) unless you meet the very strict requirements.
I hope at some point in the US we get similar right to repair laws as Europe. I shouldn’t have to pay for a whole device if the battery could simply just be replaced vs. being forced to pay almost the cost of new device.
 
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the future

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Yeah, Apple doesn't bother with replacing iPad batteries. They just replace the iPad outright. That's in part why the cost of an iPad battery replacement is so steep (almost the cost of a new iPad) unless you meet the very strict requirements.

Huh?

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Abazigal

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It wasn't always this way. The last time my iPad was having very bad battery life, I went to the Apple Store where they ran a diagnostic and told me that the battery health was still over 90%, and quoted me a price that was very close to the cost of a new iPad. I am not sure when those numbers came down but I am pretty sure it wasn't the case a year ago. 😛
 

Apple Mac Daz

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It wasn't always this way. The last time my iPad was having very bad battery life, I went to the Apple Store where they ran a diagnostic and told me that the battery health was still over 90%, and quoted me a price that was very close to the cost of a new iPad. I am not sure when those numbers came down but I am pretty sure it wasn't the case a year ago. 😛
Is that more because your battery is over 90% still so just want a out of warranty replacement, Than a battery replacement due to your battery going sub 80%
 

Abazigal

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Is that more because your battery is over 90% still so just want a out of warranty replacement, Than a battery replacement due to your battery going sub 80%

I am not sure. I just checked the Apple website and was quoted a similar price myself for my 2018 iPad Pro. Could be that Apple revised their battery service prices somewhere along the way and I simply didn’t get the memo. It’s actually now a little cheaper than what my nearby mobile repair shop is quoting.
 

the future

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The other poster is right. If the battery diagnostics show 80% or higher, Apple says the battery doesn‘t need to be serviced and won‘t quote you the (quite reasonable) battery service fee.
 

ericwn

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Sorry for the question but how is it with these online events and pre order?
Normally when there was a live event on tuesdays, you could often pre order on fridays.

Will it be the same here or can you pre order right after the event is over on the 05.07?

Nobody can predict that just guess on previous releases like yourself.
 

Ludatyk

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Re sale on iPads is shocking
If you are expecting to get some great deal... you'd be mistaken. Sometimes it's about timing and luck plays a factor in it as well… I have a certain number that seems fair for my iPad.

I’m just uncertain about how I bundle the accessories with it (Apple Pencil & Magic Keyboard)… because I know some folks probably not care for neither an Apple Pencil or keyboard. And I likely could sell those separately (still have the boxes), but if I include it in a package deal with the iPad… possibly make it more attractive.

And then I’m curious on whether or not those accessories work with this upcoming iPad Pro. Or heck, Apple could scrap all those rumors and keep the same design (no OLED) while only adding a M3 chip, which I’d decide to keep my M1 iPad. So, yeah… come May 7th some decisions have to be made lol.
 
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