A couple of anecdotal reports have commented on iMac and eMac boot problems with 10.2.8.
Any successful or unsuccessful installs on these machines?
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10.2.8 iMac/eMac Problems?
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1Ghz iMac
As a data point, 10.2.8 installed and runs fine on a 1Ghz iMac (17 inch LCD). Also on two G4s (dual 800 and 867), an older 9600 with a Sonnet upgrade. That is all I have tested so far.
As a data point, 10.2.8 installed and runs fine on a 1Ghz iMac (17 inch LCD). Also on two G4s (dual 800 and 867), an older 9600 with a Sonnet upgrade. That is all I have tested so far.
OS X 10.2.8 haskilled my iMac - HELP!
I downloaded OS X 10.2.8 using Software Update. I left the machine to it, as it was going to take a while (even with 1MB broadband). I came back to my iMac 30 mins later and it was asleep and it would not wake up. So I reset the machine and waited for it to boot. Got the grey screen with the Apple logo, then the blue screen with the progress meter, then when the password/logon screen was due the machine just displayed a blank blue screen, I could see and move the mouse pointer. There was no logon screen, or menus or icons, could not even eject a CD This happened every time I booted into OS X 10.2.8.
The only options I am faced with is by reinstalling panther but I am scared I will loose all my data by doing that. Or install OS 9.2 which insists on formatting the drive as it can't mount Mac HD 1. Help?
Are there any ways or hacking into OS X maybe even in terminal mode and removing OS 10.2.8 maybe?
I have a 2002 G4 iMac 800Mhz with 256MB RAM
I downloaded OS X 10.2.8 using Software Update. I left the machine to it, as it was going to take a while (even with 1MB broadband). I came back to my iMac 30 mins later and it was asleep and it would not wake up. So I reset the machine and waited for it to boot. Got the grey screen with the Apple logo, then the blue screen with the progress meter, then when the password/logon screen was due the machine just displayed a blank blue screen, I could see and move the mouse pointer. There was no logon screen, or menus or icons, could not even eject a CD This happened every time I booted into OS X 10.2.8.
The only options I am faced with is by reinstalling panther but I am scared I will loose all my data by doing that. Or install OS 9.2 which insists on formatting the drive as it can't mount Mac HD 1. Help?
Are there any ways or hacking into OS X maybe even in terminal mode and removing OS 10.2.8 maybe?
I have a 2002 G4 iMac 800Mhz with 256MB RAM
works fine on my 800 ibook.
as for the person above me, just do an archive install of jaguar, you won't loose any data.
as for the person above me, just do an archive install of jaguar, you won't loose any data.
I've had the same problem with 10.2.8 as the person two posts above. Sadly, an archive install does _not_ resolve the problem. You can boot up if you hold down shift to disable extensions, which will let you backup whatever you need. I've tried so many things in single user mode to get it working, but alas, nothing has worked. Installing Panther (archive install again) even produced the same results.
Zapping the P-RAM didn't work, clearing the open bios didn't, etc.
I'm about to try a clean install.
Zapping the P-RAM didn't work, clearing the open bios didn't, etc.
I'm about to try a clean install.
i downloaded it on my 800mhz 17" imac, ive noticed no problems. the boot time was a bit slower though.
No known problems on TiBooks?
My friend owns a 15" TiBook 1Ghz - any known problems? Or can I advise him to update? As a professional photographer he can't do without his TiBook, so we don't want to take any chances.
BTW Both my 17" LCD iMac and my 12" PoBo are running smoothly. The thread is getting repetitive: 1st boot and start of programs slower, after that it seems at least as fast as is was before.
M.
My friend owns a 15" TiBook 1Ghz - any known problems? Or can I advise him to update? As a professional photographer he can't do without his TiBook, so we don't want to take any chances.
BTW Both my 17" LCD iMac and my 12" PoBo are running smoothly. The thread is getting repetitive: 1st boot and start of programs slower, after that it seems at least as fast as is was before.
M.
Re: OS X 10.2.8 haskilled my iMac - HELP!
I am not exactly sure what you are saying, but given that you say "reinstall" it would seem to indicated that a Panther beta or alpha was installed on that machine along with (perhaps on a different partition?) 10.2.x. Perhaps it is a problem with Panther and 10.2.8 not being able to co-exist peacefully on the same drive/machine? Panther is beta so I don't think it is unexpected that one needs to be really careful when running an "older" (e.g. 10.2.8) update on a machine with a "newer" beta (e.g. 10.3 beta). I didn't see anything in the notes that would indicate driver updates or something like that, but you never know...good luck!
I am not exactly sure what you are saying, but given that you say "reinstall" it would seem to indicated that a Panther beta or alpha was installed on that machine along with (perhaps on a different partition?) 10.2.x. Perhaps it is a problem with Panther and 10.2.8 not being able to co-exist peacefully on the same drive/machine? Panther is beta so I don't think it is unexpected that one needs to be really careful when running an "older" (e.g. 10.2.8) update on a machine with a "newer" beta (e.g. 10.3 beta). I didn't see anything in the notes that would indicate driver updates or something like that, but you never know...good luck!
Like zebs1972, I downloaded and installed 10.2.8 thru Software Update and then faced a blank screen upon returning to my FW800 PMG4 to do the customary reboot. Had to shut off the machine by holding down the power button. Was able to reboot and login, but didn't get a chance to play with it yet. (Upgraded from 10.2.6.)
However, this type of thing is starting to scare me about Apple's Quality Control. Seems like they are starting to turn into M$. Been dealing with the Airport Extreme 5.1.1 firmware issue for over a month now. (If you haven't heard about it, there is a major BUG in the firmware that will cut off your internet connection after 30mins or so depending upon usage.) Apple has known about this one but still hasn't fixed anything yet.
However, this type of thing is starting to scare me about Apple's Quality Control. Seems like they are starting to turn into M$. Been dealing with the Airport Extreme 5.1.1 firmware issue for over a month now. (If you haven't heard about it, there is a major BUG in the firmware that will cut off your internet connection after 30mins or so depending upon usage.) Apple has known about this one but still hasn't fixed anything yet.
Same here. it seems you should not have you mac fall asleep after running the update and before rebooting. The problem is minor really. After the hard reboot, everything is fine and dandy.
NO WAY you can compare this to M$ crap. After being a PC poweruser for many years, all this mac stuff is trivial. To a former PC user, many Mac users are lazy whiners. I don't think it is strange that when core parts of the OS are changed you run a risk of having differences between what's in the RAM and what's on the HD, really. Such discrepancies can cause a computer to freeze. It's not possible to just update *everything* loaded in RAM - that's why you need a reboot.
I read a nice post by Powerbook G5 a while ago about his uneasy feeling after switching: nothing to tweak, no low level setting to correct for that one card to work: this can't be right. This is so recognisable! To me at first it was a bit of a disappointment that everything on the Mac just worked. I kinda liked fiddling with my Dell, which at the time I got it was a very cool machine (PIII-450, win2k). Figuring out how to trick the system into actually working can be very rewarding.
And I just got a steering wheel and pedals to use in racing games (a gift by the sponsors of F1 driver Jos Verstappen). It has a booklet with an extensive procedure for installing and calibrating the thing on windoze. I plugged it into my iMac and it just worked. period. And no apparent need for calibration. Cool! I can just plug it in and play! It didn't even ask for a driver! It didn't fire up internet explorer to be registered! I love my Mac.
M.
PS. In Dutch, a del (same pronunciation, one L) is a slutty girl (not quite a slut anyway). I know some geeks who like to say they are playing with a del on their desk all the time.
Snow 500 mhz G3
No problems. This little cutie is a trooper!
I know she's on the older side.....but I love her.
No problems. This little cutie is a trooper!
I know she's on the older side.....but I love her.
Re: OS X 10.2.8 haskilled my iMac - HELP!
I had the same EXACT occurance, however, mine displayed the login screen. Besides that everything was the same. I don't know what to tell u but best of luck.
I had the same EXACT occurance, however, mine displayed the login screen. Besides that everything was the same. I don't know what to tell u but best of luck.
Okay, if you are having the problem where your computer will simply not boot, I think I've found the solution.
Dust off your hardware test cd, boot from it (hold down c), and then run the extended test. This will take about half an hour, depending on how much ram you have, but should resolve the problem.
I have no clue if this erased some bad data in the ram or what, but after hours of trying various things, this fixed it.
Good luck
Dust off your hardware test cd, boot from it (hold down c), and then run the extended test. This will take about half an hour, depending on how much ram you have, but should resolve the problem.
I have no clue if this erased some bad data in the ram or what, but after hours of trying various things, this fixed it.
Good luck